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aqm22



Joined: 21 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:12 am    Post subject: How "rural" is rural Korea? Reply with quote

How "small" is a small town in Korea? Is is just the size that makes a small or rural town in Korea? Or does it lacks basic amenities like electricity, indoor plumbing, and internet?

I don't really want to work in a big city like Seoul or Incheon, but I'm afraid that small/rural towns might not have even the basics of what I need. Does anyone know?
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YTMND



Joined: 16 Jan 2012
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest 1 hour from a major city and 40 minutes from the next. Seoul and Busan would be major cities. Incheon is not a major city. It is divided into groups, most of which is secondary in nature but 40 minutes from Seoul, so it's not an issue. There is one exception though. There is an area of Incheon where the airport is located. This area would constitute a reasonable place to live, but to go into Seoul or travel south would be an inconvenience. Your call. My solution would be to live near the airport line that connects Incheon to Gimpo and get the school to pay for commuting.

Stick to the west coast or south. If you really like coastal areas, consider up near the Yeongduk area. It has a San Francisco/Boston (Cape Cod) seacoast feel to it.

Size is not an easy concept to get down because the country is so small. You can go anywhere relatively easy. However, for convenience, factor in transportation routes. Just ask the school, "How would I get from my apartment to Seoul/Busan?"

Get the exact directions. How many buses? How many trains? If subway, how many transfers? Get the whole thing and base your decision from that. If you have to travel 1 hour or more (train/highway bus), and then take the bus for 30 more minutes, consider this entering the tiny parts. Here you will not get much variety in foods or products. Services will be either nonexistent or scaled down to the locals' preferences. These could be good points just as they could be bad. You can learn a lot of cultural things by just what one Korean does compared to another in a different area. When I was in Andong, they liked to add vinegar to their pepper paste. In Seoul, I was laughed at when I did that.

If you can get anywhere by using just one mode of transportation within 1.5 hours, then you are close enough to modern living. This won't guarantee the apartment is modern though, just that you will have reasonable time and distance to get anything.

An area will have an ending:

If it is a -eup or -ri, then it might be too small of a city.
If it is a -gu, -gun, or -myeon, find out how close they are to major bus or train stations.

If it is a -dong, it is too small to judge. Ask for more information to get a bigger division.

If it is a -do or a -si, then it is too big to judge. Ask for more information to get a smaller division.
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whiteshoes



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll have internet, indoor plumbing, and electricity anywhere you live in Korea. But if you find yourself in a very rural area you won't find many English speakers or western style anything. I mean, you might not have access to things like cheese, good import beers and things like that.

I lived in a "rural" school district my second year in Korea. I could get to a more modern area in about 30-45 minutes but that wasn't great. I mean, 45 minutes one way is 1.5 hours to go to the grocery store, not including shopping time. So imagine I get out of work at 5, I go shopping and have dinner in the "city" and I won't be home until 8 or 9. It really sucks your time.

But the worst thing is the language barrier. Yes, I got better at Korean, but not really "good." No one around me could speak English, and the place was so rural I never saw other English speakers. The highlight of my month would be the day that the kimbop shop owner's daughter came in, because she was in uni and could speak a bit of English.

That leads me to another point. It's hard to meet members of the fairer sex out there. You just don't find many people, male or female, between the ages of 20-35 out in the rural areas.

Now of course, that was just my experience, and yours could be very different, and I'm sure others had different experiences than I did.

Take this grain of salt/your mileage my vary...
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless the salary is out of this world don't do it.
You wake up everyday and think, "Why did I ever come here to this desolate place". Winters exacerbated the isolation big time.
Along with what whiteshoes said the female situation is dire. You have high school and younger (off-limits) and moms (off-limits). Every time I saw a chick in her twenties (university age) in town I was in total shock. The only exception to this were two women (slightly older) that worked for the mobile phone company. Man I would love going in there.
Other than that the highlight of my month was running by the all girls high school every 1st, 3rd and 5th Saturday (if there happened to be a 5th Saturday) at a precise time just to shout and say hello when they came pouring out of the school. The excitement, though short, was phenomenal!
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Kepler



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's very unlikely that you'll end up at a place where you have to poop into a chamber pot and read by candlelight at night. In a rural place, however, you may feel isolated especially if you work at a public school where you're the only foreign teacher.
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Cacille



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in a rural Korean town, teaching in a public school.
Three high schools, three middle schools, over 5 elementary schools.
High rises, Paris Baguette, Dunkin Doughnuts, Baskin Robbins and Lotteria.
44000 people. A bus station nearby to take me to Jinju if I need more American items. It takes 45 minutes. If I wish to go to Daegu, it's about the same amount of time.
My apartment is larger than normal size luckily, and I'm the type to want to stay in and play games and save my money, go out to a norae-bang every so often, and go out to a nice place with other English teachers or my coworkers every so often. I have awesome internet, a cell phone, and my birds to play with. I'm perfectly fine with just that.
My coteacher speaks damned near perfect English and we really get along insanely well.
Oh, and by the way, my town is a -eup AND -gun. So it's considered a large town/small city (Three stoplight town really). I think the farthest place you can be is maybe 30 minutes farther south, taking a total of a hour and a half to get to Jinju, BUT that's by bus. They recently, for the Expo, installed a high speed line to Suncheon/Yeosu. This means that you could take a bus from the most rural coastal city possible, get to Suncheon, and ride that KTX to a major city in just 30 minutes or so.

So...rural....means a maximum of an hour and a half to any city.
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KingOfWaygooks wrote:
I live in rural Korea, in a "ri." I have to drive 30 minutes to the nearest "eup" or wait two hours for the bus to come if I want to hang out with one of the area's ten or so foreigners, none of which will usually talk to me anyway. An "eup" is rural in the "oh lawl Korea is so great I live in a rural area and it is so kewl omg because like jinju is 45 minutes" sense, but for me, if I look out my window, there is a crop of some stunted vegetable, probably a pile of something on fire if the time is right, and a rice wench with a metal grill that would make rap singer Puff Daddy jealous.

Every week or so, I drive into town to eat at kimbap cheonguk by myself, as that is my treat for the week, except it is not kimbap cheonguk because that franchise does not extend this far, but their menu is nearly the same. I saw two foreigners at the town grocery store a few months back, but we ignored each other because they were from the city and on their way to a nearby tourist attraction. Like Zackback said, there are no girls or any young people, really. When there are, I stare at them for too long unintentionally.

The closest city to me is Jinju, which takes at least two hours to get to if I drive but longer by bus, so if I want to go out on the town in such a glamorous place, I have to stay the night due to the lack of transit. There is a smaller, crappier, more provincial city within driving distance that has a Homeplus. The only person in the area who will put up with me lives there, so we sometimes go to one of its many convenience stores.

I started working out a lot after moving here. I really like running because it takes up a lot of time. I have also watched up to season six of Star Trek: The Next Generation. The futuristic bridge of the starship enterprise with foxy Counselor Troy is an escape from my rustic, seaside slop village where the application for the dabangs asks how many years it has been since menopause.

So what do you want to hear, OP? The country sucks unless you're married or on some kind of spirit quest that Pocahontas herself sent you on or possibly a eunuch. Do you expect there to be stuff there? If it has stuff or is conveniently close to things, then it's not really a rural area. Any eup is going to have at least a dozen or so turds to complain about rice in the school lunches with, but if I can say one positive thing about living in the middle of nowhere, it is that it builds character and makes you a heartier, more endeavorful person like me.


I don't doubt Pyeongchon is rural, but I'm looking at the map now and have a very hard time believing it takes 'at least 2 hours' to drive to Jinju. More likely it would take 2 hours to drive to Busan, if that. In a car I bet you'd arrive in Jinju within the hour

Just to check- are we talking about the Pyeongchon east of Jinju and next to a large hill/mountain called Obongsan? If so, how can it possibly take more than 2 hours to drive to Jinju? That makes no sense and suggests you're exaggerating how cut off you are
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aqm22



Joined: 21 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply guys. I have a better idea of small towns are like now. I've been to Vietnam and China and their rural town is like really "rural", "candlelight-and-squatting-bathroom-50yds-away" rural. So, at least in Korea, it's not that bad.

@YTMND: Thank you for the info. It'll help me decipher their "ruralness".
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toby99



Joined: 28 Aug 2009
Location: Dong-Incheon-by-the-sea, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rural Korea generally isn't the best place for a horny young western bloke; much better off with 'suburban' Seoul or Busan.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In short:
1. No /Little food sold from back home either in restaurants and supermarkets.
2. No/Little chance to hang out with other foreigners.
3. No/Little chance of meeting good quality women.
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aqm22



Joined: 21 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, so small town/rural just means less contact with anything related to back home. And since it's a small country a "city" is usually not too far away.

I'm a girl so meeting women is not my biggest concern Laughing
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cacille wrote:
I live in a rural Korean town, teaching in a public school.
Three high schools, three middle schools, over 5 elementary schools.
High rises, Paris Baguette, Dunkin Doughnuts, Baskin Robbins and Lotteria.
44000 people. A bus station nearby to take me to Jinju if I need more American items. It takes 45 minutes. If I wish to go to Daegu, it's about the same amount of time.
My apartment is larger than normal size luckily, and I'm the type to want to stay in and play games and save my money, go out to a norae-bang every so often, and go out to a nice place with other English teachers or my coworkers every so often. I have awesome internet, a cell phone, and my birds to play with. I'm perfectly fine with just that.
My coteacher speaks damned near perfect English and we really get along insanely well.
Oh, and by the way, my town is a -eup AND -gun. So it's considered a large town/small city (Three stoplight town really). I think the farthest place you can be is maybe 30 minutes farther south, taking a total of a hour and a half to get to Jinju, BUT that's by bus. They recently, for the Expo, installed a high speed line to Suncheon/Yeosu. This means that you could take a bus from the most rural coastal city possible, get to Suncheon, and ride that KTX to a major city in just 30 minutes or so.

So...rural....means a maximum of an hour and a half to any city.


That town you are in would be a city by my standards (where I am now). Smile


No high rises, PB, DD,BR or Lotteria. We have a Family Mart (which just closed) and a LG25.
One high school one middle school and one elementary school.

The high school is a boarding school (not enough local students to justify the costs apparently).

1 hour from Daegu by bus.

In order to get out of town one has to circle almost all the way around a mountain or two to get to a main highway.
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
That town you are in would be a city by my standards (where I am now). Smile


No high rises, PB, DD,BR or Lotteria. We have a Family Mart (which just closed) and a LG25.
One high school one middle school and one elementary school.

The high school is a boarding school (not enough local students to justify the costs apparently).

1 hour from Daegu by bus.

In order to get out of town one has to circle almost all the way around a mountain or two to get to a main highway.


That actually sounds pretty cool. I couldn't imagine doing that for an extended period of time, however.
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tardisrider



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing about rural Korea is that it's kind of like rurla Japan, only a bit to the left.
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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
Location: We Are The World!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tardisrider wrote:
The thing about rural Korea is that it's kind of like rurla Japan, only a bit to the left.


Or a bit like rural China, only in about 10 years.
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