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happiness
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 Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:27 am Post subject: Does every PS job now require a TEFL cert?!? |
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| I was talking to a recruiter today and he told me this, and said it was a little known new reg, but then he tried to sell me a "discounted" tefl course. I know it sounds shady, but is it true? I refused it anyway. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| hope so, it's about time these lazy "teachers" get some kind of qualification. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| GEPIK requires TESOL with 100 hour in-class, but as for hiring by school, I don't know. |
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Porksta
Joined: 05 May 2011
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| You need a certification or one year of experience. A degree in English or a Master's may suffice but I am not sure. |
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Ranman
Joined: 18 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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In most places, you need a 100 hour TEFL course if you don't have a BA in English or Education. They can be all online, unless you're teaching in Busan. If you're teaching in Busan, you'll need at least 50 of the 100 hours in a classroom.
Though from what I've understand, they've eliminated the lowest pay option of 1.8 for people without the TEFL. Everything starts at 2.0 now, if I understand it correctly. |
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teachergame
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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A Masters won't help unless you have one in Education or ESL. I've a grad degree, and several years' experience teaching at Korean public schools but I still had to do the TESOL course. A waste of time and money basically, but it's another one of those ridiculous hoops that they want foreigners to jump through. I think the only way to get around it is if you have an education degree or a teaching certificate.  |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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FYI: It has been recruiting season for local (and very expensive) TEFL courses that need not be named.
You'll be able to figure them out by the excessive number of "my friend's boss is high-up in EPIK/SMOE/Et. al, and got a letter that new regulations coming down the pipe will require all teachers to have _ _ _ _ _ TEFL certificates with XX hours of classroom teaching as part of the course...." posts.
We've seen the same posts at certain times for at least 5 years now. Keep that in mind before you drop 2 million on a TEFL course you may not need. |
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Guajiro
Joined: 04 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Ranman wrote: |
In most places, you need a 100 hour TEFL course if you don't have a BA in English or Education. They can be all online, unless you're teaching in Busan. If you're teaching in Busan, you'll need at least 50 of the 100 hours in a classroom.
Though from what I've understand, they've eliminated the lowest pay option of 1.8 for people without the TEFL. Everything starts at 2.0 now, if I understand it correctly. |
All recruiters I've spoken to about public school jobs have been saying all year that basically level 3 on the pay scale has been eliminated (what you said) and now all teachers need a degree in English or Education or Linguistics OR 1 year of previous full-time classroom teaching experience OR a 100-hour TESOL/TESL/TEFL certificate.
Looks like it's getting even more strict next year. This is a direct quote from the EPIK website news section:
"Greetings Prospective Applicants,
In recent terms, the application process has gradually become more competitive. At this point, it is almost impossible for level 3 applicants to secure a position with the EPIK program. As such, the most common way for level 3 applicants to increase their qualifications would be to enroll in a TEFL or TESOL course.
Currently, we accept a minimum 100 hour TEFL or TESOL certificate as a qualification criteria for level 2 or higher pay grade, regardless of how the course was taken. However, starting from the Fall 2013 term, when we recommend candidates to the POE/MOEs we will give a priority to the applicants possessing a minimum 100 hour TEFL or TESOL with at least a 20 hour offline, in-class component, as opposed to those who only completed a strictly online course. We strongly advise you to take the TEFL or TESOL programs including at least a 20 hour offline, in-class component. This decision was made to meet requests from the POE/MOEs and schools who wish to have the most qualified Guest English Teachers possible.
Thank you for your cooperation." |
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xihtug
Joined: 14 Sep 2012
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Dumb question but you never know - Do you think that a Masters in Social Studies Education counts as an Education degree? I also have a teacher's licence for the Social Studies.
I'm currently enrolled in an online TEFL course but I'm definitely not going to be done by the time the interviews begin. |
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goreality
Joined: 09 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you think that a Masters in Social Studies Education counts as an Education degree? I also have a teacher's licence for the Social Studies. |
Just given that education is in the name it should count. The teacher's licence is also great.
But is it an MA or an MEd?
If it's the latter I would say 'Master in Education specializing in Social Science.' |
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xihtug
Joined: 14 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| goreality wrote: |
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| Do you think that a Masters in Social Studies Education counts as an Education degree? I also have a teacher's licence for the Social Studies. |
Just given that education is in the name it should count. The teacher's licence is also great.
But is it an MA or an MEd?
If it's the latter I would say 'Master in Education specializing in Social Science.' |
It's an MA. I figured if it has Education in the name I'm fine, but I wasn't sure how picky they were being. |
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mcloo7
Joined: 20 Aug 2012
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| So if you have a BA in English you're covered? |
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Kaypea
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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I have a BA in English, 2 years' experience teaching in Korea (though I'm in Canada now), and am halfway through an MA in TEFL from University of Birmingham... but no 100 hour TESOL course 
I'm applying to EPIK through Footprints, and I'll let you know what they say about me! |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right
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All these qualifications for an assistant teacher job, man have times changed.
BTW, I never worked with a Korean English contract teacher (not an assistant teacher like you will be) that had any thing above a bachelor degree and most of their degrees were not even in English or Education. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| Guajiro wrote: |
| Ranman wrote: |
In most places, you need a 100 hour TEFL course if you don't have a BA in English or Education. They can be all online, unless you're teaching in Busan. If you're teaching in Busan, you'll need at least 50 of the 100 hours in a classroom.
Though from what I've understand, they've eliminated the lowest pay option of 1.8 for people without the TEFL. Everything starts at 2.0 now, if I understand it correctly. |
All recruiters I've spoken to about public school jobs have been saying all year that basically level 3 on the pay scale has been eliminated (what you said) and now all teachers need a degree in English or Education or Linguistics OR 1 year of previous full-time classroom teaching experience OR a 100-hour TESOL/TESL/TEFL certificate.
Looks like it's getting even more strict next year. This is a direct quote from the EPIK website news section:
"Greetings Prospective Applicants,
In recent terms, the application process has gradually become more competitive. At this point, it is almost impossible for level 3 applicants to secure a position with the EPIK program. As such, the most common way for level 3 applicants to increase their qualifications would be to enroll in a TEFL or TESOL course.
Currently, we accept a minimum 100 hour TEFL or TESOL certificate as a qualification criteria for level 2 or higher pay grade, regardless of how the course was taken. However, starting from the Fall 2013 term, when we recommend candidates to the POE/MOEs we will give a priority to the applicants possessing a minimum 100 hour TEFL or TESOL with at least a 20 hour offline, in-class component, as opposed to those who only completed a strictly online course. We strongly advise you to take the TEFL or TESOL programs including at least a 20 hour offline, in-class component. This decision was made to meet requests from the POE/MOEs and schools who wish to have the most qualified Guest English Teachers possible.
Thank you for your cooperation." |
Sure will be nice when this recession ends. Won't those fellows be in for a surprise? Where would you do a class TESOL if you already are in Korea? I'm suppose to go home and take one? Online is the only possibility if you are already in Korea. Duh!! (No, I don't live in Seoul.) |
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