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Porksta
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A pair of English degrees seems like a 'qualified' starting point to me -- also seems quite unfair for them not to disclose why candidates aren't chosen; especially considering all the time and effort it took to fill out the application and retrieve the landslide of proper documents.
Gotta love the 'employer's market.' |
Welcome to the real world. I never knew jobs anywhere told you why you weren't hired.
As for the time thing - I put all my eggs into the SMOE basket and was running around for a hagwon job. Should have done both at the same time. |
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cheezsteakwit
Joined: 12 Oct 2011
Location: There & back again.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject: EPIK rejected me |
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OP , contact Alistair at Korean Horizons. He recruits for non-EPIK PS jobs.
I was once an overqualified EPIK reject (sniffle, sniffle ) & I'm VERY happy at my PS high school.
There ARE more PS options out there besides EPIK. |
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jeremydc808
Joined: 16 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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I am going through the process right now. I sent in my app via Korvia with an attached ppt. It suck to hear that you do not make it but GEPIK is a great program as well. They will hire in November. At least with GEPIK, you have a choice as to a general location. Alistair has been highly recommended for non EPIK jobs. The thing with him is that he is straight forward and won't waste time. Like any recruiter, he will only work with you if he can 'sell' you to schools. My initial plan is 1. EPIK 2. GEPIK 3. Korean Horizons.
I am sure that you will get to Korea. |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to hear that you weren't hired for the job OP.
I was told by my provincial office of education that EPIK has been and is planning on reducing number of Native English Teachers (NETs). It will only affect the secondary schools (middle and high schools). They will reduce in a way that, these secondary schools will not renew their NETs. EPIK will either transfer some of the NETs that are worthy (score high on their evaluation?) of retaining to elementary schools if and when the position becomes available. For this reason, the competition for the new intake will be tighter as there are more applicant for the job. |
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surendra
Joined: 07 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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I tried to read most of this thread. Sorry to hear that a "real" teacher as yourself did not get selected and some one like me technically was.
I can back asking Alistair at Korean Horizons. He placed me in a PS in Busan and this school is great for a "real" teacher. I signed an EPIK contract but technically I am hired by the BMOE. Make sure you have your sh*t together, because he is not afraid to drop you if you haven't done the research on your end. I am 5 months in and he gave a nice email to check up on me last wee ^_^.
Also, I believe KoreaConnections does PS in the Seoul area, and my friend used that one and survived with a smile. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| Apply with a recruiter for a public school job. However keep in mind job openings tend to occur in groups, so it might take a little while, but keep on applying using recruiters like Koreahorizons, Footprints etc. Since you were rejected by EPIK don't bother with recruiters that hire through EPIK. |
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xihtug
Joined: 14 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| Public school jobs may be a better fit for you, but if you really want to boost up your "teacher cred", you should probably be applying for private hagwon jobs as well. Far more independence in the classroom. |
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evansmug
Joined: 28 May 2012
Location: Beverly, Mass.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| Porksta wrote: |
| evansmug wrote: |
A pair of English degrees seems like a 'qualified' starting point to me -- also seems quite unfair for them not to disclose why candidates aren't chosen; especially considering all the time and effort it took to fill out the application and retrieve the landslide of proper documents.
Gotta love the 'employer's market.' |
Welcome to the real world. I never knew jobs anywhere told you why you weren't hired.
As for the time thing - I put all my eggs into the SMOE basket and was running around for a hagwon job. Should have done both at the same time. |
As an English major, trust me, I know exactly what it means to be in 'the real world.' I'm simply stating that it's unfair practice; whether it's tried and true, or not. |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| evansmug wrote: |
| Porksta wrote: |
| evansmug wrote: |
A pair of English degrees seems like a 'qualified' starting point to me -- also seems quite unfair for them not to disclose why candidates aren't chosen; especially considering all the time and effort it took to fill out the application and retrieve the landslide of proper documents.
Gotta love the 'employer's market.' |
Welcome to the real world. I never knew jobs anywhere told you why you weren't hired.
As for the time thing - I put all my eggs into the SMOE basket and was running around for a hagwon job. Should have done both at the same time. |
As an English major, trust me, I know exactly what it means to be in 'the real world.' I'm simply stating that it's unfair practice; whether it's tried and true, or not. |
Life is never fair. |
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Perceptioncheck
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| evansmug wrote: |
| Porksta wrote: |
| evansmug wrote: |
A pair of English degrees seems like a 'qualified' starting point to me -- also seems quite unfair for them not to disclose why candidates aren't chosen; especially considering all the time and effort it took to fill out the application and retrieve the landslide of proper documents.
Gotta love the 'employer's market.' |
Welcome to the real world. I never knew jobs anywhere told you why you weren't hired.
As for the time thing - I put all my eggs into the SMOE basket and was running around for a hagwon job. Should have done both at the same time. |
As an English major, trust me, I know exactly what it means to be in 'the real world.' I'm simply stating that it's unfair practice; whether it's tried and true, or not. |
"As an English major"! Certainly, English majors are well known for having their feet on the ground and a good grasp on reality. 
I'm not trying to be offensive OP, but do you speak anything like you write? Some of your phrasing is a little. . . unusual, and might confuse a non native speaker.
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| the financial pangs of an M.A. |
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| retrieve the landslide of proper documents |
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| I was holding out that Epik would be my backbone for such a venture |
Anyway, chin up OP. Epik can be a total crapshoot. You might have avoided an insane co-teacher or a terrible location. Why not try for a job at an academy? At least you will be able to talk to a former teacher and have more control over your location. For academy jobs, you should go with as many recruiters as you can, and soon enough you'll get a reasonable offer. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:48 am Post subject: Re: EPIK denied: No clue why...what do I do now? |
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| ..I'm guessing that it had to do with my interview? Perhaps I answered something poorly? I'm not sure. I went into the interview with great passion and energy, especially so considering I had been up for 20 hours at that point, and coming off a day of masonry work that began at 5:30am --� |
Um...you could be on to something there. Preparing for an interview 101: get enough sleep.� Nothing baffling here.
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| I have a BA in English, and very soon, a matter of weeks actually, I'll have an MA in English. I don't have an ESL certificate and I have no teaching experience... |
With a masters, you should be qualified for universities, though they may want experience. You really don't have time/money to do at least an online 100 hour TEFL course?�
And it has to be Korea? Why not China? Masters could help you there... and it should even give you options for the Middle East.� |
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bbud656
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| I dont know why people put up with the EPIK applications. The same school systems hire via craigslist and on this site. In fact, your job is probably more secure being hired directly through a metropolitan office than through something like GEPIK and you get to know what area you will be living in. I got my first job at a public school off Craigslist. I missed out on a 10 day orientation in a dorm room in Seoul for my troubles. |
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mcloo7
Joined: 20 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| I dont know why people put up with the EPIK applications. The same school systems hire via craigslist and on this site. In fact, your job is probably more secure being hired directly through a metropolitan office than through something like GEPIK and you get to know what area you will be living in. I got my first job at a public school off Craigslist. I missed out on a 10 day orientation in a dorm room in Seoul for my troubles. |
Is there anything that they don't require in the application if you apply directly that they do require through EPIK or GEPIK? Like do you not need a lesson plan, letters, etc? |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| I wonder if there could be any money making up and writing lesson plans for the EPIK and GEPIK applyees. The whole system is maddening, writing up a lesson plan only to be rejected for some ridiculous reason. EPIK sucks. |
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jurassic82
Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Location: Somewhere!!!!
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry to hear about being denied. If this is going to be your first year in Korea working at one of the big chain hogwans isn't a bad idea. I did it before I found my current Public School job. The teaching got boring but I made a lot of friends and had a great time with the people I worked with. Being new to Korea and working at a public school where you are the only foriegner can be tough (Even for me). Your coworkers will be nice but usually boring and you will be rather isolated. The teaching is fun as you have a lot of say over how you teach the book. The opposite is true for hagwons. Just be careful which hogwan you choose and try and ask to speak to teacher that works there before you sign anything. You shouldn't have any trouble finding a job. Best of luck!!! |
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