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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: good point Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
Zackback wrote:
I'd get back here just for that girlfriend of yours (or is it ex?). You're not going to find cool girls like that back home. It's better here.
You know it's true.

Come back.


+1

Once you have seen the fantastic quality of Asian women it makes going back to the west so much harder.

Sad


True. I can't understand why any normal guy would want to live around a bunch of nasty looking AND nasty personality women. Why do that?

Asia is everything plus. If leave KR it'll be for Singapore or Vancouver, but never the USA, that place is played out.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea is great when you are single, and chasing girls. It gets boring pretty fast after you marry. When you have a child the schooling is an issue too.

But what is missing in the long-run is English conversations. Even if you are a quiet person, after a few years, you really want to have more English conversations.

If you think about a workplace back home there are so many conversations. At my public school I could go a week and barely have a conversation with anyone. I don't mean, "what's for lunch?", "it's chicken". I mean "did you see the Obama Romney debate?" or whatever - are real conversation.
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No_hite_pls



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
Korea is great when you are single, and chasing girls. It gets boring pretty fast after you marry. When you have a child the schooling is an issue too.

But what is missing in the long-run is English conversations. Even if you are a quiet person, after a few years, you really want to have more English conversations.

If you think about a workplace back home there are so many conversations. At my public school I could go a week and barely have a conversation with anyone. I don't mean, "what's for lunch?", "it's chicken". I mean "did you see the Obama Romney debate?" or whatever - are real conversation.


I do miss the work banter of back home for sure but I find it so easy to make nice educated friends here. I also love living near mountains.

BTW I have never lived in Korea unmarried.
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I'm With You



Joined: 01 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:39 am    Post subject: Re: good point Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
You know it's true.


Kreeper1 wrote:
Once you have seen the fantastic quality of Asian women it makes going back to the west so much harder.


KimchiNinja wrote:
True. I can't understand why any normal guy would want to live around a bunch of nasty looking AND nasty personality women. Why do that?


After living here for a while now and dating Korean, Japanese and Chinese women, western women look and act like men to me now. They're just too rough and aggressive for my liking, with their dominant personalities. On top of that, many of the young woman back home are built like dump trucks these days.
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Gorf



Joined: 25 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sisqol would be happy to hear that.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:59 am    Post subject: Re: Back in the USA Reply with quote

Sireno wrote:
So I've come back from a 2 year 1 month stint in Korea some 3 days ago. I'm feeling pretty complicated and unsure of things. Having left a girlfriend of 3 years, attempting to find work here, and dealing with reverse culture shock I already want to go back. Crying or Very sad

I'm not sure what I should do. I woke up this morning and thought it is time to get my FBI background check in case I decide to go back. However I did not find teaching English in the Hagwon setting fulfilling and something I want to make a career out of, perhaps I am already on my way back? I may be able to work at a uniwon through my connections to start in February/March term. In my mind I know I should give it more of a chance and time to readapt and find work and a life though at this stage things are feeling fairly confusing, unhappy, and not at ease whatsoever.

Any advice from people who have been where I am right now?


Well I was in Korea for the exact length as you. Off and on I considered going back to Korea (even 6 years after I had left). Left and stayed away because I thought it would be a step back and I didn't particularly like working at a hogwon. Sorry if you elaborated on a later post but:

1. Do you have any kind of plan? When I left Korea, I already knew what my next step was (continuing my Arabic studies in the ME for about a year). It helped having that plan, but I have to admit I still missed Korea a lot (generally due to the woman situation and food, both of which are COMPLETELY different in the Arab world obviously).

2. Are you qualified to do other work? I mean do you have a degree in science, engineering, etc or are you a poor sap like me who majored in History? If the latter, I would give Korea more thought OR figure out a way to get a better idea of what you want to do. For me, I came back to the USA when the job market was a lot better, so I found a job at an import company and realized an office job wasn't the hell I thought it would be. Led me to going to grad school to build more quantative skills, which helped me get my current job (budget analyst in the federal gov't). It ain't shangri-la, but it provides enough mental stimulation to keep me sane, and the federal government provides a good work-life balance.

Long story short: think of what interests you career wise, see how to get there, and plan accordingly. If you could care less about what you do, then I think it is clear: go back to Korea. Can't hurt. In any event, doing something- even if it doesn't work out- is better than doing nothing.
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lithium



Joined: 18 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:24 am    Post subject: Re: Back in the USA Reply with quote

No_hite_pls wrote:
isitts wrote:
Sireno wrote:
So I've come back from a 2 year 1 month stint in Korea some 3 days ago. I'm feeling pretty complicated and unsure of things. Having left a girlfriend of 3 years, attempting to find work here, and dealing with reverse culture shock I already want to go back. Crying or Very sad

I'm not sure what I should do. I woke up this morning and thought it is time to get my FBI background check in case I decide to go back. However I did not find teaching English in the Hagwon setting fulfilling and something I want to make a career out of, perhaps I am already on my way back? I may be able to work at a uniwon through my connections to start in February/March term. In my mind I know I should give it more of a chance and time to readapt and find work and a life though at this stage things are feeling fairly confusing, unhappy, and not at ease whatsoever.

Any advice from people who have been where I am right now?


Do as you see fit. There's no wrong answer.


So true. If you are happier in Asia go to Asia if you are happier in the west go west. It's your life not your parents, and sometimes parents give the worst advice. Their advice was good for their time but sometimes not good for yours. My father advised me to turn down a job as a cop 9 years ago and go into the business world . Other things he advised me to do; buy citi-bank stock and to be a good republican.

My biggest regret for myself is not having the b--ls to join the military, or being a cop, retirement after 20 years would have been a wonderful thing.


Children, obey your parents.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: good point Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
Zackback wrote:
I'd get back here just for that girlfriend of yours (or is it ex?). You're not going to find cool girls like that back home. It's better here.
You know it's true.

Come back.


+1

Once you have seen the fantastic quality of Asian women it makes going back to the west so much harder.

Sad


I partially agree, but a pretty, slim, well dressed, dark haired caucasian woman, reasonably feminine, with nice light colored eyes will also catch my eye as much as a beautiful asian woman will. Rolls of fat, all revealing tube tops, tattoos all over, spitting, and cursing like a sailor not so much.

(I suppose I will be partial to other race women who fit all of the other above positive qualities, too. Wouldn't want anyone to feel left out. lol)
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:17 pm    Post subject: Re: tight Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
Dodge7 wrote:
creeper1 wrote:
It is a very tight job market in the west right now. I am pretty sure most TEFLers AREN'T going to make it at home. Not now and not ever.

Here is a typical experience of a returning TEFLer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK4L7Gh406U&feature=BFa&list=UUKNRzuHIvzo_D1PyPCBtBWQ

Well after they are the ripe old age of 40 they can't keep doing ESL and need to think of a long term solutio