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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Look at Canadian Connections for Incheon Public school jobs and a few other provinces. They're interview was almost as tough as EPIK's interview though. |
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Perceptioncheck
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| They're interview was almost as tough as EPIK's interview though. |
Oh dear. Was it a written one? |
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evansmug
Joined: 28 May 2012
Location: Beverly, Mass.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:50 am Post subject: |
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A pair of English degrees seems like a 'qualified' starting point to me -- also seems quite unfair for them not to disclose why candidates aren't chosen; especially considering all the time and effort it took to fill out the application and retrieve the landslide of proper documents.
Gotta love the 'employer's market.' |
Welcome to the real world. I never knew jobs anywhere told you why you weren't hired.
As for the time thing - I put all my eggs into the SMOE basket and was running around for a hagwon job. Should have done both at the same time. |
As an English major, trust me, I know exactly what it means to be in 'the real world.' I'm simply stating that it's unfair practice; whether it's tried and true, or not. |
"As an English major"! Certainly, English majors are well known for having their feet on the ground and a good grasp on reality. 
I'm not trying to be offensive OP, but do you speak anything like you write? Some of your phrasing is a little. . . unusual, and might confuse a non native speaker.
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| retrieve the landslide of proper documents |
(Incidentally, how does one retrieve a landslide?)
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| I was holding out that Epik would be my backbone for such a venture |
Anyway, chin up OP. Epik can be a total crapshoot. You might have avoided an insane co-teacher or a terrible location. Why not try for a job at an academy? At least you will be able to talk to a former teacher and have more control over your location. For academy jobs, you should go with as many recruiters as you can, and soon enough you'll get a reasonable offer. |
My chin's up, (though, with that 'Epik' sucker punch I took, maybe keeping it tucked is a better idea) and no worries, I understand how things are lost in translation -- be them metaphors on landslides or lifted chins. Thanks for the advice, and your 'unusual' methods of encouragement. |
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evansmug
Joined: 28 May 2012
Location: Beverly, Mass.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:11 am Post subject: Re: EPIK rejected me |
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| cheezsteakwit wrote: |
OP , contact Alistair at Korean Horizons. He recruits for non-EPIK PS jobs.
I was once an overqualified EPIK reject (sniffle, sniffle ) & I'm VERY happy at my PS high school.
There ARE more PS options out there besides EPIK. |
 Thanks for the advice. I'm actually going to speak with him tonight. |
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bbud656
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Is there anything that they don't require in the application if you apply directly that they do require through EPIK or GEPIK? Like do you not need a lesson plan, letters, etc? |
A picture, resume, and a 30 second phone conversation. They did most of the talking if I recall. If you are ready to start a month before the semesters, then they don't pretend to care about all that other jazz |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe they didn't think you were able to adapt culturally. I believe that's a huge criteria in epik. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| If EPIK would use SKYPE interviews you might have been able to convince them of your ESL dancing abilities. How are they supposed to know otherwise? |
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Malislamusrex
Joined: 01 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't be surprised if all of the applicants with BA's had a TEFL certificate. You couldn't prove you actually had an MA. If you interviewed badly you were not that competitive. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| What kind of questions are EPIK asking nowadays? Please post them here. Would love to know. I'm in the program but here when the toughest question was asking me if I knew Korea had four seasons. Those were pre-recession times, I do believe. (I just stayed. lol) |
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korwan
Joined: 24 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe they didn't think you were able to adapt culturally. I believe that's a huge criteria in epik. |
This, and that is not saying anything about your character. The sad reality is that you could be the best English teacher for the job, hands down, and a lot of PS Coordinators are more concerned with how much interest you have in Korean culture.
This is an extreme example, but I knew a hard working, dedicated English teacher who was almost fired because he didn't walk into his principal's office at the start of every morning and say hello. Also knew a lazy teacher who worked at the same school who, despite of all his crap lessons of coloring and Mr Bean, did greet the principal every morning. He was loved. |
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evansmug
Joined: 28 May 2012
Location: Beverly, Mass.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| korwan wrote: |
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| Maybe they didn't think you were able to adapt culturally. I believe that's a huge criteria in epik. |
This, and that is not saying anything about your character. The sad reality is that you could be the best English teacher for the job, hands down, and a lot of PS Coordinators are more concerned with how much interest you have in Korean culture.
This is an extreme example, but I knew a hard working, dedicated English teacher who was almost fired because he didn't walk into his principal's office at the start of every morning and say hello. Also knew a lazy teacher who worked at the same school who, despite of all his crap lessons of coloring and Mr Bean, did greet the principal every morning. He was loved. |
Maybe. I will admit that I probably should have been EVEN MORE enthused about the opportunity, but, seeing as how it was my first interview, I didn't want to come across as too overbearing. While we'll never be sure why I wasn't selected, I can attest that the cover letter I wrote was certainly open and passionate about experiencing the Korean culture.
Ha! I think that's a great example -- in fact, I'd probably side with the principal! At least I'll never get booted for not saying good morning, or for any lack of proper courtesy or etiquette. |
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