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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| I was trying the prove a point that your claims of being equally qualified as I was a ridiculous statement. |
Should you really be correcting my spelling mistakes when writing sentences like this? |
Ah.... why should I care...... I was never pedantic about my writing when posting on forums filled with esl teachers.
Besides correct sentences is your job. I thought it would be nice to give you something to do for a change. |
You labelled 90% of ESL teachers as weirdos, yet I can honestly say that I have never encountered such racist, bitter drivel in all my time as a poster on this board. Your contribution today has been marred by bigotry, hate, and disgrace. You are a dreadful ambassador for this country, even according to my Korean friends. Now go home, stick on another blue movie, and vent your deep insecuritites in that way. |
I am not an ambassador for this country. I have no direct relationship with this country. Too bad if I have offended you with the ESL comments. If you don't like it, change your job...... thats if you can change your job. |
I'm only 24, with experience of another country, and no debt. I am happy thanks. With that financial burden lifted I intend to return to the UK within the next year, and study the CIPD qualification. So in answer to your last question, yes I can change my job. |
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sparkx
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: thekimchipot.com
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| Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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After reading the wonderful insights from maneatinghorse(Freudian slip there, horse?), don't the vets here miss the logic & reasonable propositions of good ole "cpa"? |
Isn't that funny - I was thinking CPA too today. It's the equation of rabid troll vs. plaything for the regulars that triggers the memory |
Nah..CPA was a man ahead of his time; a fanciful almost prophetic figure that will be remembered for eons. He was controversial yet lovable at the same time...damn i miss him.
This guy is a bush league dilettante...small change...he'll be forgotten before weeks end. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| It's simply pathetic to see you misuse words given that your making a living out of teaching ABC. |
Seeing as I teach uni students, I don't teach the ABC, and you know this quite well. Still, there is nothing wrong with teaching the ABC. I enjoyed my year in a Hagwon, and you're not insulting me with this comment, you're just insulting most of the members of this board, and making yourself look like a prize fool.
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If your claims of working in a university in Seoul are true, it still doesn't mean much. Unless you have a PHD, which you do not have, then, your pretty much limited to teach ABC for ESL students for the rest of your life. Maybe you could go back to kiwiland, but you and I, know the reality there all too well. Most likely, you'll be working in a highschool system where little kiwi kids and their parents won't give you an ounce of respect. Not only that, you will receive low pay and struggle for 20-30 years just to buy a crappy little house in the middle of nowhere, while driving some 15 year old Toyota (most likely a Hyundai) around town.
Your career very much static indeed. |
I'm branching out into editing, studying Korean hard so I can possibly look at some translation work. And with a couple more years experience I can head to the middle east and get some seriously good pay. Later I can look at managing a department, starting a language school, or designing language materials. So much for static career, fool. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 12:21 am Post subject: |
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What happened to the racist comments you made about the Koreans?
So, if a white person makes a racist comment about the Koreans that would just be an "opinion", while someone with a bit of Asian blood makes a comment about white people that would be an outrage??
I don't hate kiwi's...... I just like to make fun of them. They are a funny bunch of chumps with serious issues about the rest of the world. |
This would all make a tiny amount of sense if I had said anything racist about Koreans, which I plainly haven't. Pointing out that Korean men are more prone than westerners to abuse thier women is not racism, it's fact, backed up by reputable research. What you said about kiwi's is just pure unsubstantiated garbage. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Well a highschool teacher eh........ that pretty much says everything about your mental capacity.
From my experience and among my peers, only dumbasses set out to become a highschool teacher. Actually more like people who don't have much of a choice to do anything else.
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HAHAHAHA as if highschool teachers get any respect. What a joke.
Ok, you can form better arguments and more literate than I, but yet your teaching little kids how to spell CAT or DOG, while I have been working on major corporate finance deals for many local and international firms.
Geez..... your life must be rewarding. I guess the only satisfaction you get in life is arguing down people on this forum.
Don't insult me by saying that your just as qualified as me. I didn't graduate with honors + masters degree in one of the most difficult courses offered to be compared to a "highschool" teacher. |
I take offense at your attitude in regards to highschool teachers.
You graduated honors and with a masters, yet you cannot make intelligent arguments or express yourself in a mature academic way? I guess they must have been "last chance universities" in whatever country you come from. A good university would teach you to be more objective. They would also teach you to think more about what you are saying and to NOT sound like a teenager. You do international deals? How is that? Based on the way you present yourself on this forum I certainly wouldn't trust you to deal with my finances, or my company's finances.
High school teachers put in a lot of work for little pay. Dumbasses set out to be high school teachers? How about those who love to teach and want to give something back? I wonder what other professions you would term dumbasses? For many being a teacher isn't about the money. It is a shame that most countries do not pay their teachers a salary due someone with specific training and IMMENSE responsiblity. In your LIMITED experience, you find high school teachers lacking. IF I were to deal with 1 bad accountant, would I be qualified to judge all accountants "dumbasses" and the job not worth while?
I didn't set out to be a high school teacher, but it is a job I really enjoy. It isn't about the money for me, it is about helping students and seeing them grow into mature adults. I get IMMENSE satisfaction from my job. I'd say there isn't much else on this earth that could give me as much satisfaction. If you want to put down an entire profession without knowing a single thing about it, go ahead, but it just makes you look like the dumbass. |
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HardyandTiny
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 2:53 am Post subject: Re: Korean adult male immaturity |
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| ...and why is it that bragging about how many bottles of Soju one can drink is almost the Korean substitute for talking about the size of one's member. |
almost the Korean substitute?
In what culture do men go on bragging about the size of their "member"?
Now do men go on bragging about how many beers they drank? Yes!
What are you saying? Western men brag about their *beep* size as much as Korean men brag about drinking soju?
What a strange method of determining immaturity. Are they equal or...? I don't get it? |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Well a highschool teacher eh........ that pretty much says everything about your mental capacity.
From my experience and among my peers, only dumbasses set out to become a highschool teacher. Actually more like people who don't have much of a choice to do anything else.
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HAHAHAHA as if highschool teachers get any respect. What a joke.
Ok, you can form better arguments and more literate than I, but yet your teaching little kids how to spell CAT or DOG, while I have been working on major corporate finance deals for many local and international firms.
Geez..... your life must be rewarding. I guess the only satisfaction you get in life is arguing down people on this forum.
Don't insult me by saying that your just as qualified as me. I didn't graduate with honors + masters degree in one of the most difficult courses offered to be compared to a "highschool" teacher. |
I take offense at your attitude in regards to highschool teachers.
You graduated honors and with a masters, yet you cannot make intelligent arguments or express yourself in a mature academic way? I guess they must have been "last chance universities" in whatever country you come from. A good university would teach you to be more objective. They would also teach you to think more about what you are saying and to NOT sound like a teenager. You do international deals? How is that? Based on the way you present yourself on this forum I certainly wouldn't trust you to deal with my finances, or my company's finances.
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Last Chance Universities? LOL
Why take offense-this retard isn't guilty of making the odd typo, he's stupid-and he is trolling perfectly. Nothing wrong with that [not that I would know, waterbaby] but why get offended at someone who has a grade 6 reading level? |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Too bad your not intelligible either.
You make a point that english is your strength but yet... you make basic spelling errors and you are unable to differentiate the use of role and roll.
Are you really a qualified english teacher with a masters degree??
Look chump, give it up. Your just as unqualified as most ESL teachers here in Korea. |
I make spelling mistakes sometimes, as most people do, which means precisely zip. I am however intelligible, but you are not. You keep on refering to ABC's and static careers when you know I work in the university system. You tell me you're not pedantic about your own spelling and writing on a message board then you pick apart my mistakes. Your story, your persona, and your attitude simply don't hang together. I don't even believe you are who you say you are. You've lost your bite, you've become farcical, you're not even a fun troll any more. And while we're picking on each other, you don't even know how to differentiate the use of "your" and "you're". Your pose as Mr Academic ability had been seriously compromised. |
It's simply pathetic to see you misuse words given that your making a living out of teaching ABC.
If your claims of working in a university in Seoul are true, it still doesn't mean much. Unless you have a PHD, which you do not have, then, your pretty much limited to teach ABC for ESL students for the rest of your life. Maybe you could go back to kiwiland, but you and I, know the reality there all too well. Most likely, you'll be working in a highschool system where little kiwi kids and their parents won't give you an ounce of respect. Not only that, you will receive low pay and struggle for 20-30 years just to buy a crappy little house in the middle of nowhere, while driving some 15 year old Toyota (most likely a Hyundai) around town.
Your career very much static indeed. |
WOW. we have a hypocrite in the room!!!!
It's been while since we have seen an insecure individual as yourself Horse eater! emmm seems you are not taking your mid life crisses to well their son!
well listen HORSEMAN! best thing to do is , stop blaming other teachers in korea. just becuase it makes you sick that you have ended up to what you hate, looking at other teachers walking past you and calling them losers! becuase thats what you have became yourself! doesnt help you deal with your arrogance!!!
IF you hate us all so much! or you hate being a teacher!!
start to practice what you preach! do something about it!!!
jump a plane a head to sunnyvale! and open an IT company and makes billions!! dont try and justify your pathetic existence as being faults of people who chose to be teachers!!
rememeber one thing smart arse!
without educators where would we all be!!
teachers are under rated we all know that!!
anyway welcome to daves!! and all I can say is..
you need to wise up man.. just becuase you feel like you can do better in your life and to make yourself feel better you need to put us down!
because you cant handle reality has lead you here! well. you are here too JOHNBOY!! so get on with it!!
P.S! if you find any spelling mistakes or grammar mistake..
be a sport and edit them for me.. becuase I really dont give a XXXX!!!! |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| It's simply pathetic to see you misuse words given that your making a living out of teaching ABC. |
I love it too. 
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How does that Alanis song go again, TMAKATM?
Isn't it ironic?
Yeah, that's the one. |
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maneatinghorse
Joined: 27 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| It's simply pathetic to see you misuse words given that your making a living out of teaching ABC. |
Seeing as I teach uni students, I don't teach the ABC, and you know this quite well. Still, there is nothing wrong with teaching the ABC. I enjoyed my year in a Hagwon, and you're not insulting me with this comment, you're just insulting most of the members of this board, and making yourself look like a prize fool.
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If your claims of working in a university in Seoul are true, it still doesn't mean much. Unless you have a PHD, which you do not have, then, your pretty much limited to teach ABC for ESL students for the rest of your life. Maybe you could go back to kiwiland, but you and I, know the reality there all too well. Most likely, you'll be working in a highschool system where little kiwi kids and their parents won't give you an ounce of respect. Not only that, you will receive low pay and struggle for 20-30 years just to buy a crappy little house in the middle of nowhere, while driving some 15 year old Toyota (most likely a Hyundai) around town.
Your career very much static indeed. |
I'm branching out into editing, studying Korean hard so I can possibly look at some translation work. And with a couple more years experience I can head to the middle east and get some seriously good pay. Later I can look at managing a department, starting a language school, or designing language materials. So much for static career, fool. |
Teaching university students at an ESL level is still pretty much limited to teaching ABC. You are not exactly teaching university students at a level comparable to students undertaking English literature in New Zealand. Maybe I��m wrong given that New Zealand standards are not on par with other major English speaking countries.
I��m glad that you enjoyed acting like a circus clown in a Hagwon for a year.
It��s funny to see someone who has such a low opinion of Koreans to depend on the language that Koreans speak to support his existence. One thing I can say to you is that it is unlikely that you can compete successfully in the translating/editing arena for various reasons.
First of all�� I doubt that you can reach a high level of proficiency in the Korean language. (There are some foreigners who have attained this level but mostly in isolated cases and only after spending years studying Korean) However even if you do reach that level, you will be facing a lot of competition from many Koreans (Local and overseas Korean) that can function as a translator.
Secondly, since you are a white person, it is unlikely that a Korean employer will hire you over a Korean candidate provided that he has similar qualifications. Also, you cannot simply build the same level of rapport that a Korean employee can with their employers. Your ESL qualifications won��t help you there much chump. Perhaps a business major would benefit you more. Too bad you don��t have it.
Thirdly, more and more Korean employees for large corporations can speak a fair level of English. (No, they are not at a native level, but enough to function) Given the large number of Koreans studying in the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, I��d say even more Korean employees would be able to speak English at a fluent level in the near future. (Time is against you my sheepish friend)
Finally, I have met a number of Saudi Arabians who can speak good Korean here in Seoul. They are working for a Korean conglomerates in the Middle East and they are here for some training. Seems that they have some technical backgrounds such as engineering, science or business. Looks like you��ll be facing tough competition there as well. After all, it would be a niche market for Korean-English-Arabic translators in the Middle East.
Just fact it, your career has an invisible wall and you are limited by those constraints.
Open up a language school in Korea??? I thought you said foreigners couldn��t set up businesses in Korea. Why contradict your self?? If you want to open up a language school in Kiwi land or Australia�� well�� you are in for a tough ride. Either you will go bankrupt trying, or you will give up on that idea later on.
Maybe you can manage a department filled with ESL clowns later on. That is pretty much the limit of your career. |
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Falstaff
Joined: 14 Jan 2004
Location: Ansan
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 10:00 am Post subject: |
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I have a feeling that I'm going to regret this because maneating horse will either choose not to see my point or is mentally incapable of seeing a point other than his own, but here goes.
I am a high school teacher in the United States. I am qualified to teach, among other things, English Literature, Composition, Newspaper, Publishing, and Drama. I graduated from one of the top teacher training colleges in the United States.
The old saying those who can't, teach certainly doesn't apply to me. Upon graduation of college, I was offered a job with a major US retailer doing corporate security. Starting figure near 100K, company car, company apartment, expense account, yada, yada, yada. I turned it down. I also considered law school. I had a 3.7 undergraduate GPA at a school consistently ranked in top 100 schools in the US. My LSAT was a 172. You can look up what that means if you'd like, but I promise you it's pretty damn good. I could have gotten into any law school in the country with the exception of about 5-10. So why the hell am I teaching you may ask (although I think CLG, Homer, Kiwiboy, and others already know the answer)? Why am I not making 6 figures in a corporate job? Why am I not charging $200+ an hour for my legal services.
Simply put, there is no other job in this world that I would be better at, or enjoy more than teaching. I teach at a poor school. Almost 85% of our students qualify for government assistance. I can count on one hand the number of students I teach that have a stable family home. But I know that I can make a difference in the lives of some of them. I have no illusions; I'm no miracle worker. Some of my students are lost before I get them, and I've seen several sentenced to lengthy prison sentences, or put in the ground at 19 over an argument about a few dollars. But I know that some good has come of my services. Do I drive a fancy car? No, maneating horse was right. I drive a 15 year old car with almost 190K miles on it (Mazda, btw). Am I wealthy? Hell, no. Will I ever be? Probably not. Is wealth the only measure of a person's success? Absolutely not, and anyone who thinks so is so deluded that he should be medicated. Plenty of intelligent, successful people live lifes of poverty, and there are some real troglydytes who have money.
And as for the barb about English Literature majors wasting their time, go to the American Bar Association's website. English is a prefered major among law schools because of the increased ability English majors have in analyzing material, drawing logical conclusions based on the material, and clearly expressing those conclusions.
Any of you that wish to mock me, go ahead. I don't mind. The world will be a better place because of me when I am gone. Can you say the same thing? |
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maneatinghorse
Joined: 27 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 10:19 am Post subject: |
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What happened to the racist comments you made about the Koreans?
So, if a white person makes a racist comment about the Koreans that would just be an "opinion", while someone with a bit of Asian blood makes a comment about white people that would be an outrage??
I don't hate kiwi's...... I just like to make fun of them. They are a funny bunch of chumps with serious issues about the rest of the world. |
This would all make a tiny amount of sense if I had said anything racist about Koreans, which I plainly haven't. Pointing out that Korean men are more prone than westerners to abuse thier women is not racism, it's fact, backed up by reputable research. What you said about kiwi's is just pure unsubstantiated garbage. |
You are racist towards Koreans. Don't deny it.
Your posts certainly reflect your absolute disdain and contempt for Korea and the Korean people. In fact you go as far as to post statments that are false and misleading such as "Korean men are immature".
If you're not, why don't you post something that portrays Koreans in a more positive light? No, you wouldn't, because you are racist towards Koreans. Please prove me wrong and list 10 positive traits of "immature Korean men" that you admire. (Perhaps for you, they fail to have 10 positive traits.) |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 11:07 am Post subject: |
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| You are racist towards Koreans. Don't deny it. |
I do deny it, while at the same time asserting that you are a moron.
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Your posts certainly reflect your absolute disdain and contempt for Korea and the Korean people. |
No they don't.
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If you're not, why don't you post something that portrays Koreans in a more positive light? |
Because the title of the thread is not "Things that portray Koreans in a positive light".
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No, you wouldn't, because you are racist towards Koreans. |
No I'm not. But you're racist towards New Zealanders, a fact I couldn't care less about apart from the fact that it lowers your credibility when your major complaint is about racism.
I've read your posts for a number of pages now, and the verdict is in, down syndrome with severe autistic complications. My condolences to your family, and good luck with your treatment.  |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 11:41 am Post subject: |
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I have a feeling that I'm going to regret this because maneating horse will either choose not to see my point or is mentally incapable of seeing a point other than his own, but here goes.
And as for the barb about English Literature majors wasting their time, go to the American Bar Association's website. English is a prefered major among law schools because of the increased ability English majors have in analyzing material, drawing logical conclusions based on the material, and clearly expressing those conclusions.
Any of you that wish to mock me, go ahead. I don't mind. The world will be a better place because of me when I am gone. Can you say the same thing? |
I'm not mocking you, hel I a mpraising you, but none can deny that the world is a better place with Rachel Corrie gone.
HTH |
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lush72
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: I am Penalty Kick!
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| Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Thirdly, more and more Korean employees for large corporations can speak a fair level of English. (No, they are not at a native level, but enough to function) |
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA you fool! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
I work at one of the top 3 and the level of English here is abysmal! |
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