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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My pleasure and again, best of luck to you both!
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Adam Carolla



Joined: 26 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

abright1dea wrote:
wishfullthinkng wrote:
going overseas and living short term in a new place with a so/bf/gf is an awful awful idea. enjoy a new place without being tethered to someone or something.


I wasn't asking your advice on my life decisions. I was asking the best way to go about a decision I have already made.

To everyone whose reading comprehension is intact, thank you for answering my question.


This is Dave's ESL Cafe, you're going to have to get used to this kind of thing.
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Moondoggy



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: teaching with a SO/BF/GF Reply with quote

abright1dea wrote:
My boyfriend and I are trying to teach in South Korea this upcoming fall and are wondering about living arrangements and the best strategies to stay together. I've read a lot of contradicting information. Some says that schools will not hire couples that are dating because they fear losing two teachers over a break up. Others say that schools will hire you but will tell the parents you are married if they complain about anything they deem inappropriate.

Ideally, my boyfriend and I would not want to live together, but would like to live close to each other. If push came to shove, we would live together. What is the best way to go about applying for jobs and housing? Any tips on how to best represent ourselves in the Korean culture? Thanks


What makes you go to Korea to teach English? Any particular reasons?
And what is your major? What is your BF's major?
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Tyshine



Joined: 04 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm here with my gf. We were late placements for EPIK so we are about an hour apart by bus. With EPIK its hit or miss (I've seen couples who were a floor apart to others like me over an hour by bus). Next time we are just going to take the housing allowance. I think with Hagwons you can be fairly close to one another.
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ayahyaha



Joined: 04 Apr 2011
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My boyfriend and I have had three jobs in Korea, one together and two apart.

The above advice that finding a job as a couple completely depends on the school is correct. (If you do want a job at the same place, you can do your best to present yourself as stable and long-term. I included pictures of us together with our applications, for example.)

If what you really want is to live nearby each other, and work different jobs -- which I strongly recommend unless you have extremely similar personalities (see below for more on that) -- that's not impossible. Recruiters will tell you that it's difficult, and you can agree, and let them know that you'll wait until you find the right arrangement. Then be prepared to wait for it.

For example, my boyfriend and I each got jobs in Gangnam in Seoul, and our apartments ended up being about 10 minutes walking distance from each other. The recruiter told us we were crazy to hold out for that, but after about two months, we were successful.

Now, we work in another part of the city but we're about 10 minutes apart by taxi. Both of these arrangements just took patience. We both turned down jobs along the way and I took a bit of a pay cut for my current situation, but it was worth it to me not to be an hour away from my boyfriend. If that's not a priority, then you can give yourselves a bigger radius on the map.

Remember that recruiters always paint a dire picture. I believe them about when they have job openings (i.e. more in February than now, for example), but I also question every other thing they say. Just be polite, expect them to lie but don't let it get to you, and hold out for what you want.

Finally -- I really do recommend caution about working together. At least in my experience, we were compared from day one, and people treated us as a unit rather than as individual teachers. Also, I'm very outgoing and smiley, and my boyfriend is more introverted and quiet. Generally, I would say that quiet people might have a hard time in Korea, but he's found great jobs on his own that were a better fit for him.

Also, living together might mean living in a shoebox together, which is a great way to cause difficulty in an already stressful situation. Zero personal space. I've been with my boyfriend for years and while we can do it, I'd still rather not.

So, my two cents.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Living together is always a big decision but if as a couple you have never lived together in your home country, doing so for the first time in a foreign country that will require you to adapt to local culture, to a smaller apt is in my view a recipe for disaster!

If you have lived together for a while in your home country and that was going well, then there is no real issue to living in the same place in Korea. I would however require a "no housing" contract and use the two housing allowances to find your own place.
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stever1000



Joined: 10 Nov 2012
Location: Comox, BC

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone else comment on working together vs different schools?
My GF and I were looking for jobs together, but could also look for individual jobs too if that is better overall?
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nero



Joined: 11 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be very wary about working at the same school and living with your sig other. I was in that situation in Thailand, where my gf and I were working very closely on implementing an English program in a private school. We lived together in housing at the school, and worked closely in the same office.

I never realised she was so bossy and pedantic, she never realised I was such a lazy procrastinator and so shit with computers.

It was nearly the end of us, lol.

Our situation is completely unique of course, so make of it what you will.
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