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Patrick Murray



Joined: 01 Nov 2012

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter258 wrote:
there should be a separate jobs board for "female only" postings.

and a separate board for all kindy jobs as well.

I'm so sick of having weeding through these kindy and "female only" posts.



if only.... hahahaha

I feel you on that one.
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick Murray wrote:

Japan use to be the place?
S Korea is no longer becoming the place?
China is the next big option


would that be a fair summation?


Pretty much. Korea is on a downward trend.
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Gorf



Joined: 25 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had three in-person interviews in the past two weeks, 5 phone interviews, and a bunch of minor bites from e-mails I've sent as well. I also got a job offer but I'm rejecting it in favor of a better school. Also, I'm only looking for after school programs, not hagwons or public school. If you can't get a job, especially with the economy going up every day, then you're doing something wrong. Get a better photo where you look like less of a dingus, format your resume to a proper, non-high schooler style, and stop using "ledzepproxx88" as your Gmail name. It's not that hard getting a job. Getting the docs is by far the hardest part.
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Gorf



Joined: 25 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edit: Dave's bb code sucks
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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
Location: We Are The World!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems diligent to write that message twice, but maybe you're just counting all of the responses twice?

/I keed
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea is still a viable option but it is an employers market. The decline trend that is discussed here for Korea is more of a transition than a true decline. The market still demands teachers but now is more demanding as well in terms of visa issuance. Like Japan before it, the market has "matured" into something else and is no longer the wild east open buffet it was a short 10 years ago.


China is on the upswing as they are less demanding in terms of selection of teachers. It is in many ways what Japan and Korea were before.
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[email protected]



Joined: 26 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been applying since Aug here. Got all my documents ready to go. So far I've applied to about a dozen recruiters and have only gotten a few preliminary calls (where do you want to work, what age group, do you have your documents, etc). Now I'm aiming for Feb/March 2013.

Heard the economy won't pick up till 2016 and we won't see any boom times till about 2020.
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorf wrote:
I am a 20 year - old cute, curvy, blonde american woman with no teaching qualifications and I had three in-person interviews in the past two weeks, 5 phone interviews, and a bunch of minor bites from e-mails I've sent as well. I also got a job offer


That does not surprise me Gorf.
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John Stamos jr.



Joined: 07 Oct 2012
Location: Namsan

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nautilus wrote:
Gorf wrote:
I am a 20 year - old cute, curvy, blonde american woman with no teaching qualifications and I had three in-person interviews in the past two weeks, 5 phone interviews, and a bunch of minor bites from e-mails I've sent as well. I also got a job offer


That does not surprise me Gorf.


Heh. I kind of agree with Gorf. I think some people tend to make it a little more dramatic than it really is. I also only looked for AS programs and had a number of opportunities. I turned an offer down as well because it was in the sticks. The job I accepted is still kind of in the sticks, but less in the sticks. Bit of a commute, but gives me time to catch up on the news. I had interviews, demo lessons, and people talked to me. I didn't feel like there was any of the "50 candidates for every job" thing going on either. Certainly, hagwons have to be much easier places to find jobs as well.
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Stamos jr. wrote:
nautilus wrote:
Gorf wrote:
I am a 20 year - old cute, curvy, blonde american woman with no teaching qualifications and I had three in-person interviews in the past two weeks, 5 phone interviews, and a bunch of minor bites from e-mails I've sent as well. I also got a job offer


That does not surprise me Gorf.


Heh. I kind of agree with Gorf. I think some people tend to make it a little more dramatic than it really is. I also only looked for AS programs and had a number of opportunities. I turned an offer down as well because it was in the sticks. The job I accepted is still kind of in the sticks, but less in the sticks. Bit of a commute, but gives me time to catch up on the news. I had interviews, demo lessons, and people talked to me. I didn't feel like there was any of the "50 candidates for every job" thing going on either. Certainly, hagwons have to be much easier places to find jobs as well.


...I meant that it did not surprise me she was having no problems finding a job given her credentials.
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John Stamos jr.



Joined: 07 Oct 2012
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm missing something. I thought Gorf was a dude and you added that part.
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Gorf



Joined: 25 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John got the joke, the naut didn't get that John got the joke.

I'm a painfully handsome white male from America, if it clears it up. I accepted an after school job offer today in a really nice part of Seoul. Woop de dip de dip. Wasn't even hard to find, just trolling worknplay, Dave's, hiexpat and a few others for a few minutes a day for good looking AS programs. I fail to see how anyone could even fail to get a horrible kindy hagwon job out in the sticks. If you're REALLY intent on getting a job, there's numerous (possibly horrible) ones out there to keep that sweet, sweet E-2 visa juice flowing.
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John Stamos jr.



Joined: 07 Oct 2012
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd leave the country if my only choice was to work at a hagwon or public school. Being transient in your 20s, trying to live wild for a while, etc... there are better countries out there to work in that won't break you on some 9-7 or 2-10 shift. If I'm not working 11-5, with two of those free hours, in an empty school where no one checks on me, and the 4th grade up classes teach themselves, I won't be here. There are definitely major perks here if you're Korea's definition of "handsome," as well... though it can get to some people's head...

Honestly, there are, apparently, good "hagwon" jobs here. And a friend of mine has a job he likes teaching adults one on one where he doesn't have to do splits. People can take it as a moral issue if they want, but there's some sense in taking the best crappy job you can get, flying over, work for a few months, save up some dough, then find a better job, maybe an after school job. I couldn't do that year of 2-10 pm stuff myself. I don't think the market is that horrendous. For one of my AS interviews they told me there were about 8-10 people they were looking at. That's pretty good for a job where you do nothing and get to choose where you live.
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Moondoggy



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorf wrote:
John got the joke, the naut didn't get that John got the joke.

I'm a painfully handsome white male from America, if it clears it up. I accepted an after school job offer today in a really nice part of Seoul. Woop de dip de dip. Wasn't even hard to find, just trolling worknplay, Dave's, hiexpat and a few others for a few minutes a day for good looking AS programs. I fail to see how anyone could even fail to get a horrible kindy hagwon job out in the sticks. If you're REALLY intent on getting a job, there's numerous (possibly horrible) ones out there to keep that sweet, sweet E-2 visa juice flowing.


why do you want to teach english in korea when you're "painfully" handsome? try to become an actor in korea you'll achieve "fame and forutne". you don't even need proper acting training for some stupid TV show like "surprise". soon you will get better auditions and land better roles if you're "painfully" handsome shithead.

seriously they'd rather hire an ugly woman than a "painfully" handsome guy because parents demand it. i know it's not fair.
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jakesalva



Joined: 06 Jun 2012

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i finally got a job offer a few days back, but i got my doubts about the position, because the contract is sketchy, the chain notorious, and i feel that they are already being a little dishonest with me.

So I'm gonna keep looking while I try to make up my mind. I'm actually back in Korea now, so i'm pounding the pavement, handing out resumes.

One thing that i think i may have been doing wrong (and this is mentioned in another thread elswhere) is telling them that i have a D10 visa. I thought this would be a real string to my bow, beucase it means i can go back to E2 very easily. But most recruiters and schools don't know what it is. And are therefore simply moving onto the next applicant.
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