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Do you still talk to foreigners you dont know while walking?
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sluggo832004



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:30 pm    Post subject: Do you still talk to foreigners you dont know while walking? Reply with quote

It seems Korea had gotten saturated with us waygooks that most dont even speak to each other when walking. Are we obligated to?

When Im in small towns, I usually get greeted from foreigners. Theres been times I was in a city and foreigners look down or the other way so they didnt have to greet me when walking. strangey.

So do you guys address random teachers or foreigners while waiting in line or on a bus? Or are you too cool to talk to other foreigners? lol.
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NQ



Joined: 16 Feb 2012

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't talk to foreigners because I don't wanna seem like I'm only talking to them cuz they know English.I guess I wanna try and seem I'm above that and I'm comfy being in Korea, when really deep down I'm not! So I try to avoid conversations with them sometimes. But some other times I can't help it and say hi to them because yeah they do know English and Western culture and it's nice to connect with someone who 'gets it' right away.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One theory I heard from a non-ESLer expat is that foreigners become Koreanized subconsciously; meaning don't talk to people you don't know and be cliquish. Which leads to a rather isolated/fragmented expat scene, somewhat different in my experience from other places in Asia.
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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
Location: We Are The World!

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One will deign to give them a subtle nod, acknowledging their presence in one's vaunted vicinity, but to actually engage them in conversation is outside the remit of all but the most desperate of individuals (unless emergency help is required).

No, best to keep at arms' length or, even better, out of smelling distance. Out of sight would be ideal but one has to go into the public on occasion where the activity is not possible for the hired help. Fortunately we have plenty of help in the office where I work. hurr durr
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JustinC wrote:
One will deign to give them a subtle nod, acknowledging their presence in one's vaunted vicinity, but to actually engage them in conversation is outside the remit of all but the most desperate of individuals.


A succinct explanation! +1

My question revolves around why this is the case? It's not the case with visitors; they are very "hi, how's it going?" chatty the same way they are back home. Does something about Seoul change these people or does Seoul naturally select for a less chatty personality?
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sluggo832004



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the word "self hate" is strong, and maybe too over the top to describe, but do you think other foreigners tend to believe the stereotype about other foreigners as well?

I mean if we all are here to teach and have a good time, why wouldn't you make friendly conversation with another foreigner?

Ive seen foreigners walk in a restaraunt and other foreigners just look at them with disgust. lol.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I talk to non-Korean women on the street because I assume they speak teh Englishee. Yeah, I'm racist.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think people stop saying hello because they know there are many difficulties living here, and don't want to get involved in other people's difficulties.

I don't see foreigners in my area. But when I lived in Busan I used to say, "hey, are you doing okay?" Because sometimes people needed help. Usually people would reply, "I'm good." One time a guy sat down with me at a restaurant, and basically broke down. It was bizarre, and I felt sorry for the guy. I listened to him, but couldn't help him. I ate my food, and said "I hope things get better for you."
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nate1983



Joined: 30 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sluggo832004 wrote:


I mean if we all are here to teach and have a good time, why wouldn't you make friendly conversation with another foreigner?


Probably because most people don't want to feel obligated to make conversation with someone else just because they happen to share the same skin color (I'll assume you're referring to caucasians/westerners - I couldn't imagine you're wondering why the Brazilian doesn't start chatting with the Japanese in Myeongdong).
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sluggo832004



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nate1983 wrote:
sluggo832004 wrote:


I mean if we all are here to teach and have a good time, why wouldn't you make friendly conversation with another foreigner?


Probably because most people don't want to feel obligated to make conversation with someone else just because they happen to share the same skin color (I'll assume you're referring to caucasians/westerners - I couldn't imagine you're wondering why the Brazilian doesn't start chatting with the Japanese in Myeongdong).


okay. you make a good point. I guess you are correct. I guess when i first got here it was hard to meet people because everybody was doing there own thing and not too friendly. But now that i think about it, they arent obligated to be friendly at all.
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dairyairy



Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
I think people stop saying hello because they know there are many difficulties living here, and don't want to get involved in other people's difficulties.

I don't see foreigners in my area. But when I lived in Busan I used to say, "hey, are you doing okay?" Because sometimes people needed help. Usually people would reply, "I'm good." One time a guy sat down with me at a restaurant, and basically broke down. It was bizarre, and I felt sorry for the guy. I listened to him, but couldn't help him. I ate my food, and said "I hope things get better for you."


I hear you. I have enough drama in my life without being up all night listening to someone else's drama on the phone. Plus, too many foreigners are complainers and whiners. I don't want to hear it.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pretty much try to avoid. I don't want them knowing how weird I am.
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AbbeFaria



Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I pass a foreigner on the street I will usually make eye contact and nod a greeting. To me, it's just about courtesy. We both stand out, I see them, they see me, we both have something in common and have the shared experience of the struggle of living/working in a foreign land. So I figure, why not? Most of the time I get a nod back. What really annoys me is when they go out of their way not to make eye contact, like they think I'm going to start humping their leg if the acknowledge my presence. They will look everywhere but at me and it's painfully obvious they're trying not to 'see' me. I don't understand this. People who look at me, ignore the nod and look away I class as d-bags.
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transmogrifier



Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. I'm not all that interested in talking to strangers while commuting. I like to space out.
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Peace Train



Joined: 01 Nov 2012

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I high five each and every one of them.
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