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University Professors: what did you do after leaving Korea?
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sublunari



Joined: 11 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:44 pm    Post subject: University Professors: what did you do after leaving Korea? Reply with quote

I'm currently working as a professor in Korea, and while I'm interested in returning to America I don't really know what I should try to do there, so I'm curious about what other professors have done once returning to their home countries. I'm relatively young and got the job a little over a year ago, I believe, as a result of having an F-visa and two years of experience in a public school here (I don't have an MA). Thanks for reading.
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd keep quiet about being a 'professor' with just a BA and 2 years public school experience if I were you. A lot of people on here think the title is bandied about far too freely. Can't give you any advice about the States but a lot of people advocate re-training to do something that's always in demand. E.g. nursing, accounting etc...
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Scorpion



Joined: 15 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
I'd keep quiet about being a 'professor' with just a BA and 2 years public school experience if I were you. A lot of people on here think the title is bandied about far too freely. Can't give you any advice about the States but a lot of people advocate re-training to do something that's always in demand. E.g. nursing, accounting etc...


I absolutely agree. It's a bit pathetic that you are calling yourself a "professor." Sorry to be so harsh, but you admit you only have a BA. Do you think you're going to be offered a position teaching at a university back home?

You are not a professor in the real world. Sorry to break it to you.
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James89



Joined: 09 Oct 2012

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the OP was trying to pass himself off as something he wasn't. As he clearly stated he is "currently working as a professor". My question to you would be do you enjoy the work that you are currently doing? If so, there's always the choice of completing a MA back home or through correspondence.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BA and 2 years experience in a public school then one more year working at a uni on an E2 would at best make you a "guest lecturer" and not a Professor (qualified academic rank) even though your students may refer to or address you as such.

You would have no chance working in academia at the tertiary level back in North America with your academic level and experience.

Retraining (as a teacher) or upgrading your qualifications (graduate level work) would be a minimum that you would be looking at.

Not sure about in the States (although from my past employment research it looks like the requirements are similar) but in Canada you would need a terminal degree (MBA as an example) or ABD for work as an adjunct or as an assistant professor at a uni. A full PhD (or other post graduate degree) would be needed to progress above that.

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Alum



Joined: 09 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A real Professor is on who has at least a PhD. If you want to continue to teach, I would strongly suggest you get a masters degree in education, minimum. With that you don't need the TESL/TESOL certificate. A waste of your cash. You will have many more opportunities for employment worldwide with a grad degree, plus ops to teach at a community college in the US if that's where you want to be. Most universities in the US want a doctorate as min. qualifications. Pursuing teaching English overseas is a good thing, too! Enjoy some different cultures!
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actionjackson



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I the only one who is reading this as the OP is looking for advice on how to spin their experience teaching at the university level in Korea into something else once returning home? Take it easy people, typing in 'professor' is quicker and conveys the exact same message as 'I currently teach at a university', regardless of qualifications to do so.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you mean like this:

ttompatz wrote:
Retraining (as a teacher) or upgrading your qualifications (graduate level work) would be a minimum that you would be looking at.


With no further information other than him holding an "F" visa there isn't much else to spin or work from.

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Scorpion



Joined: 15 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actionjackson wrote:
Am I the only one who is reading this as the OP is looking for advice on how to spin their experience teaching at the university level in Korea into something else once returning home? Take it easy people, typing in 'professor' is quicker and conveys the exact same message as 'I currently teach at a university', regardless of qualifications to do so.


If he had written "professor" (in quotation marks) I would have let it pass. But he wrote professor twice without any indication that he understood that he's actually no such thing. If he really does think of himself as a professor, and is actually planning on putting that on his resume when he returns home tp the States, well that's just Eddie Murphy laughing out loud funny. And I'm not only singling out the OP here. There are plenty of other Westerners here (sporting BA degrees with a C+ average) suffering from the same silly delusion.

I have a graduate degree and umpteen years of teaching experience but I would never think of calling myself a professor. Not before I got my PHD anyway.
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sirius black



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