Korean Job Discussion Forums

[creeper1]

The air pollution is awful. Absolutely awful.

But that is just part of the poisonous environment.

The water is also very polluted including bottled water.

The food is poisonous. The food is really unhealthy.

Don't even come near China.

[rollo]

Qingdao, Yantai, Wenzhou, Xiamen , Naning have clean air. There are also other cities that have good air. Smaller coastal cities are also good bets for good air.

yes the food is poisonous, the proof is the low population in China, as many do not survive it. Joking of course. i know many Westerners who only eat MCdonalds or pizza, while in China. The food is oily though and takes some getting used to, but it is not poisonous.

[Dodge7]

[Konglishman]

People rarely die of carbon dioxide poisoning. My guess is that quite often when this does happen, more often than not, the people in question are either a careless divers or people who committed suicide. Of course, you make a good point about acid rain, but that is still not an air quality issue.

Now, when a comparison is made between Seoul and Beijing or Shanghai for that matter, you will find that on average Seoul is doing much better with respect to having much less pollution in the form of particulate particles of the size 2.5 micrometers or less. Since people generally care about the health of their lungs, that is something to consider when choosing between the lesser of two evils.

Of course, as someone who lives in Shanghai, I like it alright. There is much more of a real job market for my profession here (which is not teaching English). However, if I were to find a better paying job (with the cost of living taken into account) in Korea, I would strongly consider it. There is much more in the way of labor protections in Korea not to mention pension and good public healthcare that can generally be trusted. All that being said, I don't dislike China. I am just pointing out that there are some positives for Korea (including better air when comparing similar sized cities).

[markness]

I don't know if this will help, but I spent some time in Harbin, China. It was a cold place, and was virtually impossible to get around without speaking a decent level of Chinese. Heating was pretty much non-existent, but the people were really nice. Lots of stares there, but they weren't angry ones, more curious. I haven't spent time in Seoul, but it seems like it is the better place to be for someone who is just starting out. (Included airfare and a higher salary is a big plus). Also, people that I have met always tell me that the standard of English is better in Korea whereas in China it doesn't really exist.

And hey, at least i'm not talking about air quality like the past 2-3 pages (we get it, the air quality is shit in China), no need to have a million pages discussing it.

And on a final note, China is booming, and I hear Korea's salaries remain the same. Now it is time to question if it is worth the gamble to jump ships to China and potentially be apart of something huge?

[Konglishman]

But I thought northern China is supposed to have good indoor public heating.

[markness]

Konglish, it is good in the sense that it is probably 10-15 degrees in the buildings with plastic flaps by the doors to "keep the heat in", but what I am trying to get to is that you would probably have to wear a hoodie inside, and if you wore a dress shirt you would have to wear something underneath because it is too cold. Also, public transportation never had heat, and same with the mom and pop shops, but that's to be expected, i'm sure the standard of living is much better in Shanghai compared to Harbin though.

[Konglishman]

So, I guess this is more about misplaced jealousy between southern and northern China. Still, I remember someone (who reviously lived in Harbin) on another forum saying he was able to take off his coat and so forth and only wear a T-shirt (with pants of course) at both home and work.

http://m.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/1126639/southern-china-calls-central-heating-amid-freeze

[Yaya]

[World Traveler]

[creeper1]

LOL. It looks like I have an internet stalker.

World Traveler. If you spent even half the time you spend on Dave's trolling doing privates then you'd probably have enough to retire on and stop your spread of mis-information.

When I made the comment about girls ( must have been well over a year ago now ) I was clearly joking. I never really tried it on with K-gals although I was seduced by a Korean lady in Itaewon.



China has it's plus points - language that is more useful, girls more interested perhaps, easy to get a job

However so does Korea - easy jobs with high pay, friendly people, stunning girls (though not always receptive to waygooks), clean air and (sometimes) a good expat community.

I'm sure people can make up their own minds.

[World Traveler]

Joking? Judging by all your PUA posts, I guessed you weren't.

Clean air in Korea? Not in Seoul. But maybe where you are in China is even worse.

About spreading misinformation, that is you, not me. Name one thing I said that is factually inaccurate. This, on the other hand, is false:

[Scorpion]

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[byrddogs]

I'm curious as to how many of you that harp on air quality have actually noticed a decline in health after living in K-land or China. I lived in Seoul for five years. I could probably count using only my hands and feet how many days I could see the mountains that surround the city (a bit of an exaggeration, but get the point). I've been in Shanghai for 2 years now and the air is not the best here either. I get full health checks yearly and I'm no worse for the wear for having lived in these places.