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hiamnotcool
Joined: 06 Feb 2012
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| Benjamino. thats not bad for Beijing. if the accom is okay and you watch your money. personally I do not like Beijing but I am not a big city person. Good for a start there is a lot of oppurtunity in Beijing. Beijing can be cheaper than Seoul, if you eat like a local and do not overdue the nightlife. That sounds like a good offer. |
And apparently, China has no problem with English teachers who mangle their own language. |
Native speakers speak like natives, whether we mangle our language or not communicating with us is the goal of studying our language. For some reason this is lost on people though. The one's that get it learn faster. |
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| I read the blog post about this. Have you thought about having your story translated into Korean? There is only so much you can accomplish with English. Your translated story could be posted on some popular websites and hopefully start a dialogue among Koreans about how foreigners are treated in their society. You could also set up a donation page so that others can contribute to your legal fund. Appeal this case and fight it all the way to the Korean Supreme Court if need be. |
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EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:34 am Post subject: |
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You're more patient than I am. I would have already left and would be in front of the Korean embassy in my homeland's capital, protesting this very minute.  |
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Moondoggy
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:12 am Post subject: |
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LBH
Loud But Harmless.
A fart that is rather loud and noisy, yet the odor it produces is not very intense, if at all noticeable. The opposite of an SBD i.e. silent but deadly.
The charismatic Pentecostal preacher's sermon was majorly interrupted when someone in the audience cut loose a massive LBH that reverberated throughout the entire auditorium. The annoyed preacher then yelled at the culprit and demanded him to come on stage and lay on the floor face down so an exorcism can be performed on his buttocks. |
Sounds like those imaginary Stanford chicks you're fantasizing about during your alone time are all class, mate. Do they even know you exist?
For what it's worth, a noisy, however largely ignorable fart....could just about be describing 99% of your posts on this site, lol.
Between the OP's story about being attacked and having the aggressors side together to use the legal system against him and your bitter and ugly racist outbursts it's a fine advertisement for your sparkling fatherland, mate. |
i m not the right person to talk to about LBH you should tell all the female NETs (native english teachers) in ROK (republic of korea) that you actually are Loud But Harmless, not a loser back home. i'm sure the chicks will be impressed. or it could be like lawrence berkeley haperturium. in fact i m in my old engineering lab at berkeley at this very moment i still come here almost every weekend for some research project. btw what's SKY? some kind of university? |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| i m not the right person to talk to about LBH you should tell all the female NETs (native english teachers) in ROK (republic of korea) that you actually are Loud But Harmless, not a loser back home. i'm sure the chicks will be impressed. or it could be like lawrence berkeley haperturium. in fact i m in my old engineering lab at berkeley at this very moment i still come here almost every weekend for some research project. btw what's SKY? some kind of university? |
Wouldn't it be a bit hypocritical of female NETs in Korea to call their male counterparts 'losers back home?' |
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Benjamino
Joined: 21 Apr 2012
Location: Jinju
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Kepler wrote: |
| I read the blog post about this. Have you thought about having your story translated into Korean? There is only so much you can accomplish with English. Your translated story could be posted on some popular websites and hopefully start a dialogue among Koreans about how foreigners are treated in their society. You could also set up a donation page so that others can contribute to your legal fund. Appeal this case and fight it all the way to the Korean Supreme Court if need be. |
My school took it out of my hands to 'save face'. This is a small town and they wanted the matter done and dusted so the fine was paid.
They are my visa sponsor, employer and landlord ultimately so I had to comply with what they wanted.
What I suspected and was told WOULD NOT be the case is that I'd be effectively pleading guilty and getting a criminal record by agreeing to all this.
I now know this to be the case. In Korean law, I'm guilty and have a criminal record to show for it.
I should have done a runner when this first blew up in August as it smelt like a stitch up then. I stuck it out because I had faith in the truth and the legal system here. What an idiot eh? |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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if you have a good job offer in Beijing then take it. I would not have believed your story but my last visit to korea I had three korean guys try to jump me and my wife. Just out of the blue came up and tried to grab my brief case and then got pushy , yealling some nonsense. i got us out of there , so yeah unprovoked attacks do happen in korea. of course these guys just looking to collect some'blood money". Why let them rob you?? Korea is not the end all be all of EFL. There are decent jobs elsewhere and none of the B.S.
Still at parents home huh Moondoggy. Just enjoy your time at the room salon when Dad and the boys take you. |
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kinship
Joined: 24 Jan 2013
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| If you have been reading this site for a while, you would know that I was attacked by a Korean guy while walking down the road (because apparently my friend was urinating in the middle of a busy road, right after we had left a restaurant where we were sitting right by the bathroom). |
Does anyone have a link to the original thread? I read it long ago and do not remember the title or I would search it out.
The final sentence in that quote is kind of funny. It implies that if one is sitting by a bathroom that they actually used it or felt a need to go during their time in the restaurant.
It omits the fact that some people may get the urge after they have left the establishment and do not feel like returning to it or are too lazy to find a public restroom. So they decide to be like the Koreans and unzip anywhere they like and relieve themselves.
The problem I have with this whole episode is that only one side of the story is being told and we only get the OP's and his partner's version of what others are saying and doing.
I know those two will interpret my words to mean that I think they are lying but that is not what I am saying. I am saying that we are not getting all the facts.
As for their being fired, I know very few contracts that do not have the clause in them that state a foreigner can be fired if they break Korean laws. Of course that doesn't mean they are atumatically fired it just gives the employer the right to fire them in such cases.
What all this boils down to is this: What finally happened? |
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kinship
Joined: 24 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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Yeah - NOT wanting to disparage the Op at all, but there's always another side (or two) to the story.
I've read far too many stories on here, sided with the OP, only to find out in some other way the other side of the story. It's always good to keep in mind. |
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Benjamino
Joined: 21 Apr 2012
Location: Jinju
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I got my 30 days notice today.
Not fighting it or creating a fuss. I've told the truth in person, on here and via my blog but that's it, game over.
At the end of the day, cut the BS and all the red tape. I was walking down the street and looked behind to see where the OP was and I saw Korean guy attack him from behind. From there this has become a total sham from start to finish and I hope the people who've lied and brought this conclusion about can live with themselves, I know I couldn't.
The job hunt begins and I think me and Korea can kiss goodbye. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Ben, what was your fine for? I mean, you looked back and saw your bud get jumped - I must be missing what you're guilty of other than being a witness. |
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kinship
Joined: 24 Jan 2013
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I got my 30 days notice today.
At the end of the day, cut the BS and all the red tape. I was walking down the street and looked behind to see where the OP was and I saw Korean guy attack him from behind. From there this has become a total sham from start to finish and I hope the people who've lied and brought this conclusion about can live with themselves, I know I couldn't.
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#1. You do not get a criminal record for this
#2. You do not get a thirty day notice for this
#3. You do not get a 2 million won fine for this
So what did you guys do after this observation? Methinks you went well past self-defense as defined in this country and did some things that makes the accusations that the Koreans lied moot.
As a long timer here (Korea) I have never heard of any westerner getting fired, fined or a criminal record for doing nothing but being attacked. I wonder what you two are not telling the forum. |
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Benjamino
Joined: 21 Apr 2012
Location: Jinju
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Ben, what was your fine for? I mean, you looked back and saw your bud get jumped - I must be missing what you're guilty of other than being a witness. |
The Korean guy says he was assaulted by both of us after he told me to stop p***ing in the street.
That didn't happen. It is as I've said it is on my blog. |
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Benjamino
Joined: 21 Apr 2012
Location: Jinju
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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I got my 30 days notice today.
At the end of the day, cut the BS and all the red tape. I was walking down the street and looked behind to see where the OP was and I saw Korean guy attack him from behind. From there this has become a total sham from start to finish and I hope the people who've lied and brought this conclusion about can live with themselves, I know I couldn't.
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#1. You do not get a criminal record for this
#2. You do not get a thirty day notice for this
#3. You do not get a 2 million won fine for this
So what did you guys do after this observation? Methinks you went well past self-defense as defined in this country and did some things that makes the accusations that the Koreans lied moot.
As a long timer here (Korea) I have never heard of any westerner getting fired, fined or a criminal record for doing nothing but being attacked. I wonder what you two are not telling the forum. |
I'm not going to bite as you clearly want to argue but right here on my desk is my 30 days notice signed and stamped by my principal.
I'm done. If anybody want's to discuss this further with me do so via PM as I'm not going around in circles with idiots who think I'm making stuff up. |
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