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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den
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uh folks, those videos were from like 18 months ago and from his comments he says hes back in Canada doing quite well apparently.
think he regrets what he said and maybe he should pull those videos
just a lesson to really think before hitting the "send" or "post" buttons |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I can't be the only one more worried about the fate of the rabbit than the guy that made the video, can I? |
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komerican
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| hogwonguy1979 wrote: |
uh folks, those videos were from like 18 months ago and from his comments he says hes back in Canada doing quite well apparently.
think he regrets what he said and maybe he should pull those videos
just a lesson to really think before hitting the "send" or "post" buttons |
His comment about Koreans "being on sterioids" was pretty funny/ironic when you consider that the folks actually taking steriods are Westerners like Lance Armstrong.
Anyway, if he had limited his comments to just Koreans and not attacked English teachers the reaction of most posters on this thread would be a lot different. His "regret", if indeed he has any, is probably limited to those comments.
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John Stamos jr.
Joined: 07 Oct 2012
Location: Namsan
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| hogwonguy1979 wrote: |
| uh folks, those videos were from like 18 months ago and from his comments he says hes back in Canada doing quite well apparently. |
Where are you seeing that? The video in the OP was the last one he made on his youtube channel according to this:
http://www.youtube.com/user/asdfgh333/videos?view=0
That's him, right?
Edit: nevermind, I didn't read any comments. |
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Scorpion
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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One thing the guy said in the last video is so symptomatic of much that is wrong with working in Korea. He says he was fired even though his contract says he must get three warnings. Rarely happens. People come to Korea to work and feel that they have some job security, at least as far as that particular contract is concerned. You might receive a warning,but you'll be allowed time to fix the identified problem, and then it's straight sailing again. Not here. Here the three warnings, if they are given at all, come in rapid succession. Teacher 'x' will receive a warning on Tuesday, the second on Thursday and the third the following Monday. That's not how they are supposed to work. You have to give the employee a chance to fix the identified problem. The second warning can't be tripping over the heels of the first. And a precise problem, and how it is to remedied, must be clearly stated. And a reasonable amount of time must be allowed for the teacher to fix the problem
There is another example over on the 'My Court Case' thread. The ajoshi goes to the teacher's school and bad mouth's him to his principle. He gets an official warning from the school. A week later ajosshi shows up to complain about the foreign teacher some more, and (wait for it...) the teacher gets a 'second' warning. WTF? A week later he's fired. That is not how three warnings are supposed to work.
Korea brings the bad press it gets on itself. The dude probably shouldn't have trashed the apartment, but we don't know what other day to day crap he was going through. For one, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| There is another example over on the 'My Court Case' thread. The ajoshi goes to the teacher's school and bad mouth's him to his principle. He gets an official warning from the school. A week later ajosshi shows up to complain about the foreign teacher some more, and (wait for it...) the teacher gets a 'second' warning. WTF? A week later he's fired. That is not how three warnings are supposed to work. |
bad example. with a court conviction against the teacher in that case (resulting in a fine), the school deemed the teacher was in violation of their contract - and fired for it (according to the thread). I'm NOT saying the school is right, but your example is a weak one. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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One thing the guy said in the last video is so symptomatic of much that is wrong with working in Korea. He says he was fired even though his contract says he must get three warnings. Rarely happens. People come to Korea to work and feel that they have some job security, at least as far as that particular contract is concerned. You might receive a warning,but you'll be allowed time to fix the identified problem, and then it's straight sailing again. Not here. Here the three warnings, if they are given at all, come in rapid succession. Teacher 'x' will receive a warning on Tuesday, the second on Thursday and the third the following Monday. That's not how they are supposed to work. You have to give the employee a chance to fix the identified problem. The second warning can't be tripping over the heels of the first. And a precise problem, and how it is to remedied, must be clearly stated. And a reasonable amount of time must be allowed for the teacher to fix the problem
There is another example over on the 'My Court Case' thread. The ajoshi goes to the teacher's school and bad mouth's him to his principle. He gets an official warning from the school. A week later ajosshi shows up to complain about the foreign teacher some more, and (wait for it...) the teacher gets a 'second' warning. WTF? A week later he's fired. That is not how three warnings are supposed to work.
Korea brings the bad press it gets on itself. The dude probably shouldn't have trashed the apartment, but we don't know what other day to day crap he was going through. For one, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. |
You may have a general point but I'd have definitely found any way possible to fire that guy if he was working at my hagwan. He admitted he just gave the young kids colouring to do and talked to the teenagers like he talked to the camera on youtube. Ie obscenities every other word. He obviously didn't even try to behave like a real teacher. However the school treated him, the students didn't deserve that kind of attitude |
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I'm With You
Joined: 01 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Scorpion wrote: |
One thing the guy said in the last video is so symptomatic of much that is wrong with working in Korea. He says he was fired even though his contract says he must get three warnings. Rarely happens. People come to Korea to work and feel that they have some job security, at least as far as that particular contract is concerned. You might receive a warning,but you'll be allowed time to fix the identified problem, and then it's straight sailing again. Not here. Here the three warnings, if they are given at all, come in rapid succession. Teacher 'x' will receive a warning on Tuesday, the second on Thursday and the third the following Monday. That's not how they are supposed to work. You have to give the employee a chance to fix the identified problem. The second warning can't be tripping over the heels of the first. And a precise problem, and how it is to remedied, must be clearly stated. And a reasonable amount of time must be allowed for the teacher to fix the problem
There is another example over on the 'My Court Case' thread. The ajoshi goes to the teacher's school and bad mouth's him to his principle. He gets an official warning from the school. A week later ajosshi shows up to complain about the foreign teacher some more, and (wait for it...) the teacher gets a 'second' warning. WTF? A week later he's fired. That is not how three warnings are supposed to work.
Korea brings the bad press it gets on itself. The dude probably shouldn't have trashed the apartment, but we don't know what other day to day crap he was going through. For one, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. |
He's just another "Chad from Canada" with the same stories that I've heard many times over from countless Canadians, Americans and Brits. The themes are always the same. In fact, even before I watched his video, I could have predicted what his claims and beefs were going to be.
Koreans need to understand that it's in their best interest to treat foreign staff fairly and run their businesses honestly. Because if they'd don't, people will go straight to the Internet and tell the world about it.
Like the post above says, they give themselves a black eye. |
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thebearofbundang
Joined: 02 Sep 2012
Location: Bundang
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| I'm thinking that the terrible thing his school did to him was fire him cause he's bat-ass-crazy.. Could you imagine this guy teaching your kids?! Oh man.. He looked like he hadn't showered/shaved his neck in weeks and judging by his bathroom it looked like he was using his shower as a storage unit. Add to that, basically eating cigarettes throughout his videos in his small apartment.. The mix of crazy/angry and smelling like rabbits/cigaretts everyday must of made him a pleasure to work with.. |
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NilesQ
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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"If you're from North America or some other developed country..."
HAHAHAHA, sorry who's retarded? |
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I'm With You
Joined: 01 Sep 2011
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"If you're from North America or some other developed country..."
HAHAHAHA, sorry who's retarded? |
No one is harder on foreigners than other foreigners in Korea.
We need to move away from that. |
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NilesQ
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm With You wrote: |
| NilesQ wrote: |
"If you're from North America or some other developed country..."
HAHAHAHA, sorry who's retarded? |
No one is harder on foreigners than other foreigners in Korea.
We need to move away from that. |
I'm more of a subscriber to glass house and bricks line of thinking, myself. If you're going to be calling people, a whole country full of them at that, idiots and retards, make sure to cross your "t"s and dot your "i"s.
I'm fully aware that there are some pretty shady employers in the ESL industry in Korea. However, this guy chain smoking and cursing throughout his videos doesn't paint him a very sympathetic figure. If you can't get the majority of your own people, in his case Western English Teachers, on your side, you aren't selling your position very well. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| Seeing this guys earlier videos, he seems to have issues. Just bitches about stupid things. We all have complaints, myself included, but not like this guy. No wonder he got canned. "Everything smells, everyone's lame, everyone's a loser, bla bla bla...." He ought to go back to working in McDonalds. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| Scorpion wrote: |
| There is another example over on the 'My Court Case' thread. The ajoshi goes to the teacher's school and bad mouth's him to his principle. He gets an official warning from the school. A week later ajosshi shows up to complain about the foreign teacher some more, and (wait for it...) the teacher gets a 'second' warning. WTF? A week later he's fired. That is not how three warnings are supposed to work. |
bad example. with a court conviction against the teacher in that case (resulting in a fine), the school deemed the teacher was in violation of their contract - and fired for it (according to the thread). I'm NOT saying the school is right, but your example is a weak one. |
I come down on the side of the foriegner in that incident, whereas this guy on youtube, I think I'd come down on the side of the school. There's lots of bad foriegners here that give us a bad name. But, the system shoudln't be against them like in that court case. |
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misher
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:56 am Post subject: |
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The guy pretty much sums up the losers that come to SK that A) never leave because no where else in the world will give them a job for that kind of compensation and B) Don't last more than a few months because of their attitudes.
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| The lifers I've met that are stable and healthy people usually have thick skin about this and just get on with their business. I love it here but I couldn't stay forever because I guess my skin isn't that thick at the end of the day. |
My experience has been the opposite. With a few exceptions, the lifers have been the losers who clearly can't do anything else than exploit their skin colour and teach in after school programs/ PS schools as a native speaker "assistant." However, i know that lifers do exist that make it work with a family and kudos to them.
In my experience, Most of the "normal" folks did their 1-2 years, and then got the hell out. That is all we are really welcome for anyway. Try telling a Korean that you've lived in SK for 13 years and aren't married or with kids. In many cases you will get a perplexed look and the "when are you going home?" Question. I remember my coworkers saying that they lied to students when asked how long they had lived in SK. Reason being they thought that once you get over the 7-8 year mark, its a little embarrassing. |
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