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Anyone doing Paleo/Caveman/Hunter-Gatherer Diet?
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semphoon



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where can I buy coconut or macadamia oil?
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Kepler



Joined: 24 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

semphoon wrote:
Where can I buy coconut or macadamia oil?

I buy them from www.iherb.com . It usually takes less than a week to arrive if you choose the Direct Korean Postal shipping option.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nutivia make an excellent coconut oil at iherb,
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chungbukdo



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone doing Paleo/Caveman/Hunter-Gatherer Diet? Reply with quote

Auslegung wrote:
I plan on starting in Gangnam in June. I've been to Korea before but wasn't on any particular diet, but now I'm doing the Paleo diet (aka Caveman diet or Hunter-Gatherer diet). I was wondering if anyone else is doing it, and what is your success?
yes I am doing it, think its my eighth year now and will never go back. I originally went on to cure my acne, found it cleared what even accutane couldn't clear. Plus it dramatically reduced my seasonal allergies. When I reincorporate something like wheat I have a subtle brain fog, and my allergies act up the next day. As far as my body goes, my body was already great because I ate a lot of protein and trained a lot beforehand. I do it for health reasons and for the mental clarity I experience.

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Anyone, are you able to stick to the diet pretty well?
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chungbukdo



Joined: 22 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

semphoon wrote:
Where can I buy coconut or macadamia oil?
go with coconut oil since its easier to keep your omega 6 fatty acid level as a total percentage of calories within the evolutionary range. Omega 6 to 3 ratio is not the only thing to think of
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The Cosmic Hum



Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flakfizer wrote:
gyopochris wrote:
Originally I thought this was a joke! I never heard of this diet!

Have you been living in a cave? If so, you're ahead of the game.


I missed this one the first time around.
Damn this guy is funny.
Cool
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I'm With You



Joined: 01 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone here suggest a website or book that shows people how to do this diet? I'm still not clear on how it works and what food to eat.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the optimum human diet; what we are fully adapted to eating from 2.5M years, and how we became the dominate force on this planet. Changing what worked wasn't wise. You get tons of vitamins, minerals, animal fat, protein, water. And none of the junk you don't need, like grains, sugar and dairy, which most people aren't fully adapted to eating.

I've been eating nothing but foods with one ingredient; meat, fish, eggs, vegi, butter, fruits, nuts since Jan 1st. Embarrassed to say it took me this long to figure out nutrition, but I grew up in the USA where false information is everywhere. Sad

The results are crazy. Lost all my beer fat effortlessly, just lots of tastey food and some cardio every day. Dropped 18lb in 6wks, and the gym body analyzer says it was all fat and zero muscle loss. I feel like that's true, my body fat % is where it ought to be now but I feel stronger than ever. Now switching to lifting.

A few things to mention. First like everything I do I did it 100%, no "cheat days" or such nonsense. I don't recognize things with more than one ingredient as being food. There was a period of about 3-4 days where my life sucked hard. The body needs time to convert from using carbs to using fat as a fuel source (we've been using fat for millions of years so the body will remember, but the transition sucks hard). I slept a lot and ate a lot of fat and vegi carbs. Like everyone says, after the transition weight loss is effortless and you never really feel hungry, not like with carbo addiction where you crash if you don't eat.

In the gym I'm much more efficient running on fat as fuel. Last year in the gym I was having to carb up before/after and having energy problems. Now I'm a machine, can do an hour of cardio like its nothing and not even need a refuel meal, big change in that area.

As far as eating in KR it's pretty easy, most KR is caveman style, w a side dish of rice you can ignore. I eat at the whole fish places, pork/beef bbq, shabu shabu, steamed egg side dish, vegi side dish, etc. Koreans don't put sugar and sticky sauce on everything so you're clear there. The grocery bill however will be off the charts, meat and vegi is seriously pricy here.

Marks Daily Apple is a cool site to learn more about it. Like others I had all sorts of improvements where I didn't know there was a problem. All the chicks kept saying "oh your skin lots glowing", LOL. Lots of other little improvements. Long post babbling on Sunday morning while drinking my coffee, but it's an important topic.

It's too bad the USA govt won't issue the REAL food pyramid to the people.
http://eatdrinkpaleo.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/paleo_food_pyramid.jpg
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm With You wrote:
Can anyone here suggest a website or book that shows people how to do this diet? I'm still not clear on how it works and what food to eat.


Check out the food pyramid I just posted, and Marks Daily Apple site, it's super simple.
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Riddle



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have read marksdailyapple.com and found it to be a fantastic resource. I started the primal diet around new years and have since lost more than 15 pounds and 2 inches off my waist. Eat when you are hungry, don't when you're not. Cut out grains. Don't have to count calories, just focus on real whole foods.

I have not been taking the whole gung-ho approach as my workouts have been sporatic and I haven't given up alcohol, though my eating has been quite clean. I enjoy having wine with dinner and drink quite a bit of beer when I go out on the weekends. I also enjoy dairy and have milk with my coffee etc. My progress is a bit slower, but it's consistent. There are a lot of foods you can eat in Korea on this diet. White rice is not all that bad, it's just devoid of any real nutrition. I have maybe a third or fourth of the bowl of rice most restaurants give you with meals and enjoy the steamed eggs side with Korea bbq. Have been cooking at home a lot too and love costco for meat and veggies.

I've also started experimenting with intermittent fasting after reading a lot of good things about it. I think it's helping my progress quite a bit. I'm looking forward to the spring, as I'll be much more likely to exercise outside. I think the primal blueprint diet is very maintainable and is a good option for anybody wanting to lose weight or just simply improve health.
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Kepler



Joined: 24 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm With You wrote:
Can anyone here suggest a website or book that shows people how to do this diet? I'm still not clear on how it works and what food to eat.

I've read three books on the paleo diet. In my opinion, the most helpful one was Perfect Health Diet.
http://perfecthealthdiet.com/the-diet/

It contains more than 1,000 references to peer reviewed literature. The author takes the approach that it's not necessary to eliminate all non paleo foods from your diet- just the ones that are harmful. On this diet I can have a lot of the same foods I had before- I just have to use healthier ingredients. Coconut oil instead of vegetable oil can be used for cooking. Rice pasta can be eaten instead of wheat pasta. There is a pizza chain in Korea that makes pizza crusts out of rice flour-imsilcheesepizza.com. Grains evolved to be toxic to mammals to discourage mammals from eating them. In the case of white rice, the toxins are either removed in the refining process or killed when cooked. It's much harder to kill the toxins in wheat. If you're going to drink alcoholic beverages it's best stick with sugar free and gluten free drinks such as a dry wine or tequila.
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I'm With You



Joined: 01 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
I'm With You wrote:
Can anyone here suggest a website or book that shows people how to do this diet? I'm still not clear on how it works and what food to eat.


Check out the food pyramid I just posted, and Marks Daily Apple site, it's super simple.


Thanks
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I'm With You



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kepler wrote:
I've read three books on the paleo diet. In my opinion, the most helpful one was Perfect Health Diet.

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/the-diet/

It contains more than 1,000 references to peer reviewed literature. The author takes the approach that it's not necessary to eliminate all non paleo foods from your diet- just the ones that are harmful. On this diet I can have a lot of the same foods I had before- I just have to use healthier ingredients.

Coconut oil instead of vegetable oil can be used for cooking. Rice pasta can be eaten instead of wheat pasta. There is a pizza chain in Korea that makes pizza crusts out of rice flour-imsilcheesepizza.com. Grains evolved to be toxic to mammals to discourage mammals from eating them. In the case of white rice, the toxins are either removed in the refining process or killed when cooked. It's much harder to kill the toxins in wheat. If you're going to drink alcoholic beverages it's best stick with sugar free and gluten free drinks such as a dry wine or tequila.


Thanks for the reference. I'll have a look at it.

Kepler wrote:
Coconut oil instead of vegetable oil can be used for cooking.


What about olive oil, is it accepted under the paleo diet?

One guy I know who is following it said that they ordered pizza at work and he just scraped all of the pizza topping off onto his plate - meat, cheese, etc. - ate that, and threw the crust in the garbage!
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Kepler



Joined: 24 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm With You wrote:
Kepler wrote:
I've read three books on the paleo diet. In my opinion, the most helpful one was Perfect Health Diet.

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/the-diet/

It contains more than 1,000 references to peer reviewed literature. The author takes the approach that it's not necessary to eliminate all non paleo foods from your diet- just the ones that are harmful. On this diet I can have a lot of the same foods I had before- I just have to use healthier ingredients.

Coconut oil instead of vegetable oil can be used for cooking. Rice pasta can be eaten instead of wheat pasta. There is a pizza chain in Korea that makes pizza crusts out of rice flour-imsilcheesepizza.com. Grains evolved to be toxic to mammals to discourage mammals from eating them. In the case of white rice, the toxins are either removed in the refining process or killed when cooked. It's much harder to kill the toxins in wheat. If you're going to drink alcoholic beverages it's best stick with sugar free and gluten free drinks such as a dry wine or tequila.


Thanks for the reference. I'll have a look at it.

Kepler wrote:
Coconut oil instead of vegetable oil can be used for cooking.


What about olive oil, is it accepted under the paleo diet?

One guy I know who is following it said that they ordered pizza at work and he just scraped all of the pizza topping off onto his plate - meat, cheese, etc. - ate that, and threw the crust in the garbage!

Olive oil is healthy but not good for frying since it burns too easily. http://paleohacks.com is also an excellent resource. You can post questions there and get input from others following the diet.
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wishfullthinkng



Joined: 05 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

while i don't follow the paleo "diet" 100% i try my best to stick as closely as i can to it and can also attest for its effectiveness. i feel worlds better, have noticed it does definitely switch your body over to using fat as fuel, and as others have mentioned, i don't have food cravings almost ever.

however, i hesitate to call it a diet because it's not. it's what the human body was designed to eat and what people should be eating and what they did eat before food science became an actual thing and people created all sorts of artificial and processed foods/sugars/chemicals.
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