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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| cheolsu wrote: |
| I would take your word for it if your Korean wasn't so bad as to not be able to understand the chart. |
Whatever. I just glanced at it. |
Best to just admit ya got schooled. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
| cheolsu wrote: |
| I would take your word for it if your Korean wasn't so bad as to not be able to understand the chart. |
Whatever. I just glanced at it. |
Best to just admit ya got schooled. |
MENSA IQs with Master's degrees don't get schooled. |
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rkc76sf
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
| just because you have a piece of paper stating you paid more money to go to school for longer doesn't make you smarter than a barista. you already prove this to be true in many of your posts. |
Why? Because I said prostitution is wrong (which infuriated you) and said vegetarianism can be healthy (which is true)?
People with a masters degree from the U.S. have more options in life. That's what I was saying. Since you are calling me stupid, I will address that:
I have an MENSA level IQ; when I was six years old, I scored high enough on an IQ test to be put in a special program (the gifted program). You really don't know what you are talking about. I'm not stupid nor am I closed minded. I'd say you're a lot more closed minded than I am. |
Jules: You've got a MENSA level IQ?
Marsellus: Oh, you feel better, moth**fucker?
Juls: Sh*t, negro, that's all you had to say. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:12 am Post subject: |
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http://media.daum.net/society/others/newsview?newsid=20130219023906678
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| 18일 한국보건사회연구원의 '2012년 한국복지패널 심층분석 보고서'에 따르면 2005년부터 5년간 5,637가구의 소득 추이를 추적ㆍ분석한 결과, 빈곤탈출률은 가처분소득(정기소득에서 세금 등을 뺀 금액)을 기준으로 2005~2006년 35.4%에서 ▦2006~2007년 33.2% ▦2007~2008년 31.1% ▦2008~2009년 31.3%로 낮아졌다. |
Officially, South Korea is becoming less wealthier compare to 5 years ago if you look at the percentage of overcoming poverty. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| cheolsu wrote: |
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If we were to round the numbers:
Typical salary for Korean male in his 20's: 2.5 million
Typical salary for Korean male in his 30's: 3.8 million
Typical salary for Korean male in his 40's: 5.1 million
Typical salary for Korean male in his 50's: 4.9 million
Typical salary for Korean male in his 60's: 2.9 million
(Once again, income is under reported by many as a way of avoiding taxes. There are large cash bonuses not included in these figures.) |
I would take your word for it if your Korean wasn't so bad as to not be able to understand the chart. The chart expresses annual salaries, not monthly salaries, in 10,000-won units. The average salary for a man in his 30s is just over 3 million won per month.
As it is, about a third of all workers are contract workers:
http://www.seoul.co.kr/news/newsView.php?id=20130201019004
No one is dumb enough to not count those large bonuses in annual salary. The base salary of a level-5 civil servant as I posted earlier, for example, is 2.5 million per month, but it's 4.7 million won per month when you add in extra compensation, which includes four bonuses of one month's salary, among other things.
There are a lot of crappy jobs out there, far more than there are good jobs. This article describes how there 81 applicants for every one contract position in Gwangju as school administrative staff, a position that pays about 1.3 million won per month, and 35 applicants for every one position as a cook, a job that pays about a million won per month.
http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/local/2012/12/13/0805000000AKR20121213100500054.HTML |
This was my point. High unemployment rate. Many either unemployed or underemployed. Seems many Koreans I come across in their 20's are lucky to be getting minimum wage. Also many Koreans working are not making these high salaries or get to have these good jobs. Officially unemployment is 3 per cent but in reality is more like 10 or 11 per cent. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:59 am Post subject: |
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http://media.daum.net/society/others/newsview?newsid=20130219023906678
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| 18일 한국보건사회연구원의 '2012년 한국복지패널 심층분석 보고서'에 따르면 2005년부터 5년간 5,637가구의 소득 추이를 추적ㆍ분석한 결과, 빈곤탈출률은 가처분소득(정기소득에서 세금 등을 뺀 금액)을 기준으로 2005~2006년 35.4%에서 ▦2006~2007년 33.2% ▦2007~2008년 31.1% ▦2008~2009년 31.3%로 낮아졌다. |
Officially, South Korea is becoming less wealthier compare to 5 years ago if you look at the percentage of overcoming poverty. |
Korea is an exporting country. The US and global downturn has hit this economy hard. |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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I have a question:
Someone attached a link to a table with a percentage of...at each income level. Does anyone know whether that is individuals or households?
Thanks!
the Unposter. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
| cheolsu wrote: |
| I would take your word for it if your Korean wasn't so bad as to not be able to understand the chart. |
Whatever. I just glanced at it. |
Best to just admit ya got schooled. |
MENSA IQs with Master's degrees don't get schooled. |
No. They get their egos bruised.
I can't believe he actually put that up as part of the discussion. lol |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Not really. On this forum I've been called a retard, an idiot, and a simpleton. (I didn't bother responding though.) Who is the insecure person? Not me. It's whoever is making the personal attacks. But I'm not losing sleep over pixels on a computer screen.
By the way, CC and Zyzyfer, my Korean is much better than yours, and you guys have been here ten plus years. The statement by Cheolsu that I can't understand Korean is false. But whatever, it's not worth talking about.
Anyways, there is no way of knowing what the typical Korean makes because of the large (enormous) amount of cash transactions. Even the Korean government doesn't know how big the underground economy is. Estimates vary wildly. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Totally missing the point. There you go again responding like there's some sort of competition going on between you and other posters on here.
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| By the way, CC and Zyzyfer, my Korean is much better than yours, and you guys have been here ten plus years. |
Wow, gee, that's fantastic. I've never sat down and actually studied Korean so I have fairly high expectations of your ability. Actually, no I don't. I couldn't care less about how our Korean ability compares. I also don't care if you have a MENSA-level IQ or were in gifted programs as a child or your Master's degree - note that an absence of comparison between you and me on these points does not necessarily denote an inequality in said comparison - and frankly pretty much no one else gives a toss on here about crap like that, either.
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| The statement by Cheolsu that I can't understand Korean is false. But whatever, it's not worth talking about. |
If it's not worth talking about then why are you still talking about it? |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Because you guys won't shut up about it.
In a past thread, I posted:
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목적: 새로운 사람들과 만나서 영어 배우기!
나이: 20-30 사이
교육: 만나는 사람들에 따라서.... 단어, 문법, 표현하기, 그리고 발음 높이기!
미팅 장소: 서울에 있는 카페 집. ( 신촌/ 영등포/ 종각/강남)
요금: 10,000 원/ 한 시간
저는?:
안녕하십니까? 저는 미국에서 태어나고 UC Berkeley에서 졸업 했습니다. 한국에서 2년 동안 가르쳤습니다. 무엇을 배우려면 그 무엇이 재미있을 때 제일 잘 배우게 되는 법입니다. 저는 어른들이 더 재미있게 배울 수 있는 경험과 용기를 더 갖을 수 있는 경험들을 만들고 싶어서 이런 만남들을 만들고 싶습니다!
관심있는 분들은 저한테:
1) 이름 과 나이
2) 목적
3) 신촌/타임스퀴어/종각/강남 중에서 좋은 장소 고르시고
4) 일요일에 가능한 시간들
5) 궁궁한점들 |
PatrickGHBusan responded:
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| what you quoted takes AWAY from your point rather than support it! Crap did you even read and understand that Korean text you just posted???? |
I corrected him with this:
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Here is the translation:
Objective: Learn English and have fun!
Age: 20-30 year olds
Curriculum: Vocabulary, grammar, expressions and pronounciation increase!
Meeting Destinations: Coffee Shops and Tea Shops in Seoul;
(Shin Chon, Young Deung Po (Times Square), JongGak, GangNam,)
Fee: 10,000 won per hour
My background:
Hi! I am from America and graduated from UC Berkeley. I have taught in Korea for two years. When you want to learn, you do learn the most when you are having fun! Thus, I would like to gain more experience in teaching adults by making a curriculum where people can become more interactive so that they can gain confidence and have fun!
If interested, please email me back with:
1) Name & Age
2) Goals
3) Location Preference: ShinChon/ Times Square/ Jong Gak /Gangnam
4) Time availability on Sundays.
5) Any questions? |
I offered no snide commentary and engaged in no personal attacks. I did not say, "Haw haw, brah, you don't know how to speak Korean!!!!111"
Captain Corea, who was posting in the thread, did not say to PatrickGHBusan "You just got schooled, PatrickGHBusan. Admit it!"
Amazing, huh?
In fact, no one gave PGHB crap for his mistake. We just moved on and no one cared. |
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highstreet
Joined: 13 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Mentioning your Mensa level IQ is the definition of insecurity. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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How is it insecure?
I'm just pointing out that a lot of posters on here (specifically those calling me stupid) really don't know what they are talking about.
Maybe if I pwn them, they'll stfu. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| highstreet wrote: |
| Mentioning your Mensa level IQ is the definition of insecurity. |
Yup, and maybe that's why no one called out PGHB on it - he didn't claim to be a genius.
Your chest thumping is what's bringing the mocking, man. Your continued insistence on showing how much better you are, even when no one is competing with you, is what's making everyone laugh.
Chill with it, man. It's not doing your point any favors. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| In fact, no one gave PGHB crap for his mistake. We just moved on and no one cared. |
I wonder why no one cared in that episode but you're getting zinged by one-liners and such. Man, I just can't figure out why that is! What is it that he did differently?!? |
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