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oceanhue



Joined: 15 Sep 2012
Location: Santa Barbara, CA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:26 pm    Post subject: Chances for a Black female? Reply with quote

I'm a senior in college and have been desperately trying to find a job... Anything, but the economy sucks RN so I am panicking (even though I'm graduating in June). Teaching in SK has become a "last resort" type of thing. If I cannot find any employment, I decided to teach abroad in Korea for a year or two. It all depends on how it all works out Confused

Now, once in awhile I read some "horror" stories about Blacks in South Korea, but not every story is the same. So as of now, it seems like there's a 50% chance that it'll end horribly or a 50% chance it'll be perfectly fine.

I'm a bit familiar with the culture since my ex was Korean (no I'm not one of those girls into K-pop). I've discovered that the Koreans I've met in California have been very kind and friendly towards me, so I don't necessarily believe the racist stories that I hear. And there's a large Korean population in California (and quite a lot recent immigrants). I've never had bad experiences ever.

What I'm trying to say is, I'm a nervous wreck. My number one priority is to pay off my student debt, take my GRE (I saw that I could take it in SK), save some money for graduate school and come back to the states. If I was able to find a job here in the US, I would stay but that doesn't seem like a possibility.

What are my chances of getting hired?

And I've already looked up the cultural differences. I've lived in a foreign country before so readjusting to someone else's culture doesn't bother me. I majored in anthropology anyway so I'm extremely interested in other cultures and would love to visit neighboring Asian countries while (or if) I'm stationed in SK.
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've known a couple. Ain't impossible.
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husker



Joined: 22 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm Black, male, AND old, 48. I've been here since August 2008, with EPIK, and have never had a problem.

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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite a few black women have had (or are having) decent work experiences in my area. They've been lovely motivated people & its been a valuable experience for their students. EPIK is color blind in its hiring.

My qualm about your post is your emphasis on "last resort" & the implication that you'd really rather not be doing this. Doesnt sound like a formula for making a winning impression.
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Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now, once in awhile I read some "horror" stories about Blacks in South Korea, but not every story is the same. So as of now, it seems like there's a 50% chance that it'll end horribly or a 50% chance it'll be perfectly fine.



You'll be fine if you have a good attitude/work hard/KNOW WHEN TO BITE YOUR TONGUE/ and generally be respectful to everyone in your school, then (hopefully the respect will be given back to you).

I've met various 'shades' of foreigners, if you follow these golden rules you'll be fine!

I did once know of a certain teacher who was far too quick to pull out the race card. They weren't hated because they were 'black'. They were hated because of their attitude! Namely:

1. Baby feed me everything for 1 whole year!
2. I'll turn up 30 seconds before classes start.
3. I'll happily take gifts from teachers but never give anything back.
4. Argue with my co-teacher. Don't get what I want - I�ll shout a little louder!
5. 'I know my rights' sort of person, without knowing their own responsibilities.

Like another poster said you're already swinging towards the hate section by saying you�re coming here because of the lack of jobs back home ect..... FINE!

A Korean asks you 'why did you come to Korea?' there is a right answer to this question and a wrong answer! Laughing

Learn the right answer (first time round!)

Leave the chip on your shoulder (if you have one) in your home country, come here with an open mind, do your research before and you never know, you might even enjoy it! Cool

btw - there is another shade in Korea, it's called Gray! Laughing
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oceanhue



Joined: 15 Sep 2012
Location: Santa Barbara, CA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
Quite a few black women have had (or are having) decent work experiences in my area. They've been lovely motivated people & its been a valuable experience for their students. EPIK is color blind in its hiring.

My qualm about your post is your emphasis on "last resort" & the implication that you'd really rather not be doing this. Doesnt sound like a formula for making a winning impression.


It's a last resort because the economy is terrible in the states and it's hard to find a receptionist job with a bachelors degree. I'm not going to sugar coat it and say it has been my dream to teach in Korea because it is not. However, I am open to anything and teaching there will not be a permanent situation since I have other plans for my life. Regardless of the crappy job situation here, I'm a hard worker and I always give a "good impression". Me joining the pool of unemployed college graduates is enough to make "anyone" choose any type of last resort. I like to have options.

Don't take it personally.
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oceanhue



Joined: 15 Sep 2012
Location: Santa Barbara, CA

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucas wrote:
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Now, once in awhile I read some "horror" stories about Blacks in South Korea, but not every story is the same. So as of now, it seems like there's a 50% chance that it'll end horribly or a 50% chance it'll be perfectly fine.



You'll be fine if you have a good attitude/work hard/KNOW WHEN TO BITE YOUR TONGUE/ and generally be respectful to everyone in your school, then (hopefully the respect will be given back to you).

I've met various 'shades' of foreigners, if you follow these golden rules you'll be fine!

I did once know of a certain teacher who was far too quick to pull out the race card. They weren't hated because they were 'black'. They were hated because of their attitude! Namely:

1. Baby feed me everything for 1 whole year!
2. I'll turn up 30 seconds before classes start.
3. I'll happily take gifts from teachers but never give anything back.
4. Argue with my co-teacher. Don't get what I want - I�ll shout a little louder!
5. 'I know my rights' sort of person, without knowing their own responsibilities.

Like another poster said you're already swinging towards the hate section by saying you�re coming here because of the lack of jobs back home ect..... FINE!

A Korean asks you 'why did you come to Korea?' there is a right answer to this question and a wrong answer! Laughing

Learn the right answer (first time round!)

Leave the chip on your shoulder (if you have one) in your home country, come here with an open mind, do your research before and you never know, you might even enjoy it! Cool

btw - there is another shade in Korea, it's called Gray! Laughing


Haha, gray?

If someone there was to ask me why I was in Korea, I would just say because I'm interested in the culture, find the food delicious and it's a rich beautiful country. I know how to kiss butt when it's necessary, and it's out of character for me to say anything that would be socially unacceptable anyway Very Happy

I know how to be charming when I need to be. Anyway, thanks for everyone somewhat confirming what I thought to be true.

If I can't find a decent salary or find myself a rich man Laughing I'll settle for Korea
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oceanhue wrote:
schwa wrote:
My qualm about your post is your emphasis on "last resort" & the implication that you'd really rather not be doing this. Doesnt sound like a formula for making a winning impression.


It's a last resort because the economy is terrible in the states and it's hard to find a receptionist job with a bachelors degree. I'm not going to sugar coat it and say it has been my dream to teach in Korea because it is not.


The economy in the U.S. is not that bad...

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With more and more companies requiring college degrees for open positions, those with just high school diplomas are experiencing higher unemployment rates.

There is such a difference that the unemployment rate for people holding a college degree is 3.7 percent. Those holding just a high school diploma have an unemployment rate of 8.1 percent.


...but...do whatever you want. It's your life.
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IamBabo



Joined: 16 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:10 am    Post subject: Females Reply with quote

I work with 3 black females at my school...
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

US rate is 9.1% at the moment. That is BAD.
Korea's kind of flat at the moment. What with the NK bomb, US fiscal cliff deal, republicans shutting down the government, Marco Rubio's drinking problem, new prezie taking office on 25th, Chuck Hagel cutting defence budgets,.... austerity is the buzzword.

You'd be better off teaching in China if you're graduating in June.
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IamCourtney



Joined: 01 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry you will find something. I'm a 31 year old black woman, and I found something within 2 weeks of applying. There are always going to be people who discriminate, but there are many employers out there who are fair when hiring. Check out the Facebook page Brothas & Sistas of South Korea. There are over 3000 members who are people of color, who have worked or currently work in Korea. Good luck on your job hunt.
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rollo



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i worked with black women at schools in South korea and they seemed to do alright. I do not want to sugar coat it, you will probably have some bad moments. The job is fairly easy and it is a very interesting experience. if you like chilodren it can be terrific.
Dont be afraid. There are plenty of open minded people in korea and you will find a job if you search hard enough. You can do it but do your research first.
I have a masters in Anthropology , love it , but few jobs.

Good Luck!!
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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a football tournament in Deagu and the Korean delegates were pointing at the waygooks ans sayingthe names of f famous players. Rooney for bald guys. Messi for short guys. Then he said "Oh yes, where is Dave" and they stopped the whole speech process for 3 minutes to find Dave. After they found him they marched him up to the front and said "TIGER WOODS LOOK IT'S TIGER WOODS".
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
US rate is 9.1% at the moment. That is BAD.

It's been 7.7-7.9% for a while now.

Want some good news? Check out this graph:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/02/a-case-for-college-the-unemployment-rate-for-bachelors-degree-holders-is-37-percent/272779/
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alwaysbeclosing100



Joined: 07 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:31 pm    Post subject: re Reply with quote

Many hagwons here will not hire black teachers at all. Discrimination here is completely 100% legal. If a jimjilbang wants to have a korean only rule it is legal. There are two black teachers in my city. One was forced to share an apartment with another teacher. The other was transferred to our city. It is not a stretch to say it was probably because some principal didn't want a black teacher in another city. Most Koreans are not well traveled. Even if they are very few can communicate on their own. What little experience they have with black americans is either from movies or possibly second hand knowledge from family in cities like LA. Very few Koreans in the US live outside of major cities. There are black teachers doing well in Korea. The chance of some type of discrimination when working in a public school from my observations is it is likely to happen.
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