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hugekebab

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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monnymite wrote: |
Don't even contact them, I can't believe how bad the student loans company are. i was paying �33 a month on a 2.1 million Won salary... I came back early rang them up, they give me the merry go round.. even had to have my parents write a letter to say I am home.. (how ridiculous) I now keep having letters saying I owe �33..even though i paid for every month i was in korea.
I rang up saying why am i getting these letters, I got told to ignore them, following month another letter demanding money.. I cant even contact them cos of the snow in England, they aint even in work... With the amount of money borrowed, i am worried at how student loans are so amateur.
Good luck with em, try to go without contacting them.. or just say you are off travelling. |
I've had worse problems with them. They are unbelievably incompetent and have caused me a load of stress since I came to Korea. Both of the fiirst two years I was here I informed them of my income. Both times they either did not process it and blamed me and charged me the default amount (I had recorded letters) or they mixed up north with south korea even though I explicitly told them on the letter not to make that mistake.
I raised a complaint and it got sorted eventually. If you raise a formal complaint stuff gets sorted. Always do it in writing by recorded delivery. Always send everything to them by recorded delivery and keep records of everything. They are a truly malevolent, evil and incompetent company. They were so aggressive and rude to me when I rang them to inform them of their mistakes. |
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hugekebab

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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LemonHead wrote: |
The minium amount to be eligible for repayments is 15k. So unless you are making more than 15k then you won't be forced to make any repayments. |
Not true.
For Korea the threshold is �9000.
"Korea, Rep. (threshold) �9,000
(default payment if you don't tell them how much you earn)147.00"
Be warned, make sure you tell them it's Korea Rep not Korea Dem Rep or you will pay more. Make sure they have the correct info for this. |
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chica_fille
Joined: 31 Dec 2009 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:00 am Post subject: |
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I can confirm that if you do not tell SLC that you are going abroad then they will never know.
They can only advise you how much to pay (if you live abroad) if you send them evidence of your earnings...so don't tell them you are going abroad haha.
Here is the evidence they would accept:
If you are working abroad - copies of your last three months payslips or a copy of your contract plus one recent payslip.
If you are travelling - Copy of your travel itinerary and copy of bank statement showing how you are supporting yourself/a letter from a third party saying they are supporting you.
If you are unemployed abroad - a letter from a third party (parent/partner) saying they are supporting you financially.
It's more hassle to tell SLC you are abroad because you need to make sure they get your monthly payments. If you want to pay off your loan I would just save up the money yourself and make a bulk payment at some point.
If you have told them you are abroad, sent them evidence and they have advised you of your monthly repayment amount, then you chose not to make the payments, your account will fall into arrears and be dealt with through the collections department - Additional charges can get added on at this point.
The whole default amount of �147 is if you just ignore all the SLC correspondence (it happens after the third letter I believe) but this only happens in certain circumstances, for instance...
If you graduate and SLC cannot match your details with HMRC, you will be issued a letter asking what you are up to. You need to reply to this as it wants to know if you are working in the UK, abroad, unemployed, on benefits, travelling. ***take into consideration my points above about the evidence when chosing which option***
Hope this helps but if anyone has any other questions just PM me. |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Hyeon Een wrote: |
I graduated in 2002. I've had no contact with them since. I was hoping for a socialist take over which would renounce all student loans and debts. I guess it didn't happen yet. Damn. |
UK has a statute of limitations after which the debt is unrecoverable. 6 years.
If the amount you owed was a lot, they may have taken out a CCJ against you in your absence which could extend the limitation period. But, unlikely, because legal action is expensive.
If your family or residents at your former UK adress is still being harrased by collection agencies after 6 yrs, then they are acting illegally and need to be told so.
Statute of limitations only applies if you have had no contact whatsoever with your creditors. A single phonecall, a one-off payment or a letter counts as contact, and will start the whole 6yr period rolling from day 1 again.
If you took out a loan from the student loans co. in 1998 or after, then there are some different rules applying. One of which is they can take money from your account without your permission. Not sure of the rest.
Looks like you're in the clear Hyeon een. They can do nothing to you now, even if you return. But your credit will be ruined for (I think its about) 15 years. |
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chica_fille
Joined: 31 Dec 2009 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Julius wrote: |
Hyeon Een wrote: |
I graduated in 2002. I've had no contact with them since. I was hoping for a socialist take over which would renounce all student loans and debts. I guess it didn't happen yet. Damn. |
UK has a statute of limitations after which the debt is unrecoverable. 6 years.
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Unfortunately Student loans are excluded in this clause - I was just dealing with a complaint in regards to this the other day. |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Location: Gyeonggi-do
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:26 am Post subject: |
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Julius wrote: |
Looks like you're in the clear Hyeon een. They can do nothing to you now, even if you return. But your credit will be ruined for (I think its about) 15 years. |
6 years. |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:35 am Post subject: |
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chica_fille wrote: |
Julius wrote: |
UK has a statute of limitations after which the debt is unrecoverable. 6 years.
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Unfortunately Student loans are excluded in this clause - I was just dealing with a complaint in regards to this the other day. |
The debt doesn't go away, but it does become unrecoverable. Statute-barred. Unless they got a county court judgement against you, in which case it maybe, maybe still enforcible.
From the national debtline website:
Student loans
Student loan agreements are simple contracts
and this gives the Student Loans Company
(SLC) six years from the date you last paid or
acknowledged the debt to go to court to
enforce the agreement. There are two sorts of
student loans and different rules apply
depending upon when you took out the loan.
Old style student loans
Old style or �mortgage� student loans are
consumer credit agreements. Payments cannot
automatically be deducted from your wages.
The SLC has to go to court before they can
enforce the debt against you. This means that
the Limitation Act can apply if you have not
paid or acknowledged the debt for over six
years.
New style Student loans
From September 1998 new style or �income
contingent� student loans include rules to say
that repayments will be automatically deducted
directly from your wages or through your tax
return if you are self-employed. This means
that the SLC are still allowed to take money
from your wages for a loan over six years old
as they do not have to go to court to do so.
County Court Judgements
If the creditor has been to court and
there is a county court judgment outstanding,
then you cannot use the Limitation Act to
dispute you owe the debt. It does not matter
how many years ago the creditor went to
court; the county court judgment will still exist.
However, the creditor may not be able to
enforce the judgment without the court�s
permission if the judgment is over six years old.
http://www.bdl.org.uk/images/25_liability_for_debts_and_the_limitation_act.pdf |
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hugekebab

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:00 am Post subject: |
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You could also declare bankruptcy. My friend did it. All debt is wiped, but you are screwed for at least 6 years and sometimes longer because of the credit stigma. |
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Capo
Joined: 09 Sep 2007
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:19 am Post subject: |
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your student loan debt still stands even if you declare bankruptcy. I believe it gets wiped if u haven't paid it off by the time your 55 or something silly like that.
On a side note I pay 20 pounds a month as of June this year. Last year I didn't pay a penny or inform them I was abroad, but then i worked a temp job for 3 months when I was back in the UK at the beginning of the year and showed up on their radar. No big deal though I have UK income which easily covers this. |
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StavvioD
Joined: 31 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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I went out to Korea after graduating in August 2008. Around January/February time, I spoke to my Mum who said 3 letters had turned up (just assuming they were bank statements) from the SLC , so I asked her to open them and they'd been trying to contact me, blah blah blah and if I didnt get in touch then they would automatically take the �147. Anyway, I called them and told them my situation, and they gave me more time to send them a couple of pay-slips and then they reduced it to �38 a month (I was earning 2.3 at the time).
They wrote to me again in Korea saying that I must inform them as soon as I return to the UK so they can revise my repayments, which I haven't done yet as I was only back for christmas/new year and coming back out asap... |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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OK my mistake.
Loans taken out from 1998 onwards (new-style loans) get statute barred after 12 years.
Loans take out before 1998 (old-style loans) get statute-barred after 6 years.
But not if your creditors get a CCJ filed against you before the 6 years is up. If they do that..then the debt is collectable for 6 yrs further from the date of the CCJ.
Not sure how and if CCJ's are enforced. I think it means they can just take any of your money and assetts at will.
If you go to the US, Canada or particular countries that have a reciprocal agreement with the UK, they will simply pass your debt to a collection agency in that country. I think this is only for a few commonwealth countries though.
Its a civil offence. That means they can't arrest you, hold your passport, and it does not appear on your CRC. They can just take your money in the UK. |
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hugekebab

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:16 am Post subject: |
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Capo wrote: |
your student loan debt still stands even if you declare bankruptcy. I believe it gets wiped if u haven't paid it off by the time your 55 or something silly like that.
On a side note I pay 20 pounds a month as of June this year. Last year I didn't pay a penny or inform them I was abroad, but then i worked a temp job for 3 months when I was back in the UK at the beginning of the year and showed up on their radar. No big deal though I have UK income which easily covers this. |
Ah yeh, they changed the law on that I think. A few years ago some of the broadsheets were advising bankruptcy as an option post graduation. |
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JD_Tiberius
Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to revive an old topic, but I'm due to fly out to Korea next week and I'm wondering if its wise to get into contact with the HMRC and SLC to let them know that I will be going abroad so the taxman doesn't harass my parents while I'm away.
I've not paid anything towards my student loan yet as my only jobs since leaving Uni have been under the threshold of �15000. I do know though that the threshold for korea is �9000(which is horrendously dirty of them) and I expect the bloodhounds to be sicced on me as the penny pinching tories are in charge again. |
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chasmmi
Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Location: Ulsan
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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I just spoke with them yesterday about sorting out overseas assessment forms.
Fro Korea you wil have to fax everything which can be an arse, but I wouldreccomend paying it as it looks good and is going to be 50k per month maximum you loseout of your salary.
I would also advise writing a couple of letters before you leave saying that you give somebody you trust (my mother in this case) permission to be privy to all corresspondes be it from banks, loans or misc.
That way if some idiot company (and there's always one) gets their panties in a twist over something they are able to tell the problem directly to somebody who can pass the info onto you and you dont have to call the UK at 4am to listen to an idiot moan. |
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