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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I've known people in Korea that have walked into a pharmacy and bought them with no prescription. I do not know the legalities around them in this country, and haven't seen the need to find out - but I do know that it's very possible. And like 12ax7 notes, it was only recently that pharmacies lost "their power" in Korea - the shift went to doctors (for good or bad). |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Steroids are often prescribed in the U.S. Cortisone and other steroids are quite commonly prescribed. Steroids are also prescribed for Asthma. Steroids are also very commony used to accelerate the healing process after traumatic injury or surgery. Cortisone is one of the most used drugs in the U.S. and it is a steroid.
Opiates of course are one of the most prescribed drugs in the world. Opiates generally do not harm the body, it is the addictive nature of them that is the problem. A little heroin is good for the kidneys the hair the eys but a little will usually lead to a lot. What kils heroin addicts is the life style and the addiction increasing the amount taken, and the impurities in the product. Also mistakes with the dosage. |
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ewlandon
Joined: 30 Jan 2011 Location: teacher
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, if it worked for you.
Did you find that heroin was as easy to use/manage as a burger?
I mean, I have actual experience with steroids, and found that they were actually less addictive than OTC painkillers, so I'm curious as to your ACTUAL experience. I'm not interested in that drug at all, but would be in hearing about your thoughts.
Do tell.... or was that your lame attempt at a cheap shot and trolling? |
I was joking.
You found yourself becoming addicted to tylenol? You didn't find steroids addicting? Why were you using steroids? Why did you continue to use them? I think you are deluding yourself. |
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liveinkorea316
Joined: 20 Aug 2010 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Rollo steroids are proscribed for injuries and specific issues with the skin or other bodily tissues. When those are cleared the prescription ends. The side effects are well documented and their use is controlled. When used in the dosages prescribed the side effects such as roid rage etc are well documented. Long term use can have many physical side effects including tissue damage, cancerm liver damage and premature death.
Roid rage is associate with a small percentage of abusers who obtain those medical steroids but use them at amounts sometimes 10 or 40 times the dosages that are recommended and you can obviously predict the side effects can be much worse. Along with the shrunken testacles and acne and increased agression in the short term athletes and body builders who abuse steroids at such rates for prolonged periods do their bodies irreparable harm in the long term. Many studies have shown premature death rates for athletes and bodybuilders who have used steroids as opposed to their non-using counterparts.
Corea has so far not told us how he came by his stash of steroids so we can reliably assume he didn't walk into any legal shops or pharmacies and buy them over the counter in a Western country.
So much for him calling them 'Legal' |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| rollo wrote: |
Steroids are often prescribed in the U.S. Cortisone and other steroids are quite commonly prescribed. Steroids are also prescribed for Asthma. Steroids are also very commony used to accelerate the healing process after traumatic injury or surgery. Cortisone is one of the most used drugs in the U.S. and it is a steroid.
Opiates of course are one of the most prescribed drugs in the world. Opiates generally do not harm the body, it is the addictive nature of them that is the problem. A little heroin is good for the kidneys the hair the eys but a little will usually lead to a lot. What kils heroin addicts is the life style and the addiction increasing the amount taken, and the impurities in the product. Also mistakes with the dosage. |
Clearly, we're talking about anabolic steroids, as in synthetic testosterone, not all steroids. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
Hey, if it worked for you.
Did you find that heroin was as easy to use/manage as a burger?
I mean, I have actual experience with steroids, and found that they were actually less addictive than OTC painkillers, so I'm curious as to your ACTUAL experience. I'm not interested in that drug at all, but would be in hearing about your thoughts.
Do tell.... or was that your lame attempt at a cheap shot and trolling? |
I was joking.
You found yourself becoming addicted to tylenol? You didn't find steroids addicting? Why were you using steroids? Why did you continue to use them? I think you are deluding yourself. |
1. No, but I could see how someone in pain easily could.
2. No. Not physiologically. But I could see how the increased size/power could be for some.
3. Because I wanted to.
4. Because I wanted to.
5. We disagree.
As for your joke, I found it pretty lame. But it's obvious we're not agreeing on much in this thread.
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Rollo steroids are proscribed for injuries and specific issues with the skin or other bodily tissues. When those are cleared the prescription ends. The side effects are well documented and their use is controlled. When used in the dosages prescribed the side effects such as roid rage etc are well documented. Long term use can have many physical side effects including tissue damage, cancerm liver damage and premature death.
Roid rage is associate with a small percentage of abusers who obtain those medical steroids but use them at amounts sometimes 10 or 40 times the dosages that are recommended and you can obviously predict the side effects can be much worse. Along with the shrunken testacles and acne and increased agression in the short term athletes and body builders who abuse steroids at such rates for prolonged periods do their bodies irreparable harm in the long term. Many studies have shown premature death rates for athletes and bodybuilders who have used steroids as opposed to their non-using counterparts.
Corea has so far not told us how he came by his stash of steroids so we can reliably assume he didn't walk into any legal shops or pharmacies and buy them over the counter in a Western country.
So much for him calling them 'Legal' |
Hmmm.. still talking about stuff you don't know much about, eh? Ok, so how many users experience those side effects? What percent? Do you know? Have you ever used?
No.
You've been going on and on about studies showing Roid Rage, Cancer, and Death amongst steroid users - yet have linked to none. The only study cited in this thread was VERY inconclusive.
Do you know any steroid users? Did they go on a rampage by chance? Die at the age of 30?
Again, where are the actual studies showing the actual dangers - not associations. Not links to. Not maybe, or possibly. But ACTUAL A cause B.
As for the legalities of it... well, again, I suppose it depends on what country you are living in and how they were obtained. Once again, I'll emphasize, where I'm from using and possessing steroids is not a criminal offence. So to term them "illegal" would be a twisting of the facts. They are "controlled" in Canada - Schedule VI - similar to Valium or Xanex (for legal classification). |
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liveinkorea316
Joined: 20 Aug 2010 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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A doctor in any country, least of all Korea is not going to give you a prescription for anabolic steroids for use in bodybuilding or competitive sports. The only way to get them is on the black market or by a lying racket to many pharmacies (the same way drug dealers get some of their precurser drugs for 'ice' in Australia one of which is boiled down from an ingredient in headache tablets)
Or you could pretend you are a dog and go to a Vet...
Either way they are not LEGAL for your consumptive purpose. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Wrong.
Search TRT and educate yourself. |
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liveinkorea316
Joined: 20 Aug 2010 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:33 am Post subject: |
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liveinkorea316
Joined: 20 Aug 2010 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Corea is wrong. There are no countries (except third world places with very few laws if at all for example Thailand where people do 'roid vacations') where doctors prescribe anabolic steroids for abuse in bodybuilding or sports.
This means unless Corea moved to Thailand (or another Third world place without many laws) in order to feed his roid addiction he has to ship them in from this country in order to use them in the country he lives in.
Corea is trying to fool you. He cannot legally purchase them in the country he lives in. There are good reasons why. Which have been covered in this thread. |
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liveinkorea316
Joined: 20 Aug 2010 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Corea was abusing something in large quantities that his government has deemed unsafe so not able to be sold to him in the quantities he wanted based on scientific data.
He had to buy them on the black market or from overseas.
Very smart decision. There is a reason they are controlled. A reason Valium and other harmful drugs are controlled. Do the math.
Personally I am not the strongest proponent of drug laws. I am not so sure about steroids either... but their terrible side effects should scare off anyone wishing to abuse them. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:57 am Post subject: |
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hahaha
So now I have an addiction? Wow, quite the leap there, man.
Do tell, show me how I was addicted. You've made the claim, now back it up
In this thread you've accused me of abusing steroids. Using illegal steroids. Having hypomania and aggression issues. And now being addicted. ALL OF THIS without knowing me personally, or even asking me any questions about my use.
And FYI, I no longer live in canada - haven't for about a dozen years.
Your ignorance on the subject is astounding though - I take it you've never heard of TRT or Anti-Aging therapy? Lot's of Test and HGH floating around those circles. And yes, it's for gaining muscle. |
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liveinkorea316
Joined: 20 Aug 2010 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Corea has absolutely no idea what he is talking about again.
Those MEDICAL treatments he refers to use anabolic steroids in quantities far below that which are used by athletes or bodybuilders.
The levels of testosterone abused in sport greatly exceed the quantities of the steroid that are prescribed for medical use. It is the supraphysiological doses and ultra high levels of testosterone that bring with it many undesirable effects and potential long term adverse health effects.
If you need a slight bit of basic science on the issue Corea. In medical appications to gain muscle or replace hormones it does not overload the bodies systems. When you take an already healthy body with enough testosterone and add too much it causes the myriad of side effects. Use it for a short time and you can get away from them but prolonged abuse of steroids which overload your testosterone levels will throw your bodies internal systems out of whack. Causing previously described long and short term side effects of cancer, heart attacks strokes, thinning of ligaments, prematurely losing hair, psychological problems...the list goes on. There are specific ones for women of course as you can guess. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:29 am Post subject: |
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I'm still waiting for you to back up your claim - how was I / am i addicted?
Please, do tell.
You seem to be subscribed to this thread, and are fast with the replies, so I'm sure you'll see this question right away. Don't ignore it, like you have been - embrace it! You've been called out by numerous posters in this thread for not backing up your claims - here's your chance.
You called me out for being addicted - prove it. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:26 am Post subject: |
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| liveinkorea316 wrote: |
| Corea is wrong. There are no countries (except third world places with very few laws if at all for example Thailand where people do 'roid vacations') where doctors prescribe anabolic steroids for abuse in bodybuilding or sports. |
Don't pay much attention to American professional sports and the Olympics, eh? |
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