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GENO123
Joined: 28 Jan 2010
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| Titus wrote: |
| The 'import millions of peasants' to fix the economy is so typical of the dead West. Quantity over Quality. Near term quick fix over long term sustainability and harmony. Die, democracy, die. |
Better than being in the situation of Japan or Western Europe.
How do you fund medicare? |
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stilicho25
Joined: 05 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Western europe did lets tons of immigrants in, and it still is in trouble, and Japan seems to be surviving. |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| GENO123 wrote: |
| Titus wrote: |
| The 'import millions of peasants' to fix the economy is so typical of the dead West. Quantity over Quality. Near term quick fix over long term sustainability and harmony. Die, democracy, die. |
Better than being in the situation of Japan or Western Europe.
How do you fund medicare? |
When the immigrants get old and the problem is bigger due to higher population, are you going to deny them medicare? |
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GENO123
Joined: 28 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| comm wrote: |
| GENO123 wrote: |
| Titus wrote: |
| The 'import millions of peasants' to fix the economy is so typical of the dead West. Quantity over Quality. Near term quick fix over long term sustainability and harmony. Die, democracy, die. |
Better than being in the situation of Japan or Western Europe.
How do you fund medicare? |
When the immigrants get old and the problem is bigger due to higher population, are you going to deny them medicare? |
No, but the US is going to have to adjust medicare in the future. Besides It puts off the day of dealing with the problem. That is better than the alternative of facing the problem right away which the US doesn't have money for. |
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GENO123
Joined: 28 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| stilicho25 wrote: |
| Western europe did lets tons of immigrants in, and it still is in trouble, and Japan seems to be surviving. |
How is the Yen doing. You ain't seen Nothing . Wait . |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:43 am Post subject: |
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record high unemployment? where? U.S. unemployment is roughly 7.8% under Reagan in the 80's it touched 10 percent.
I am all for immigration but letting the irish in in the 19th century in the numbers that came, well you can see the result. Catholics and drunkeness and kennedy's And Reagans and Clintons. Taking jobs away from real Americans!!
it will all be okay. In Miami the Cubans are already looking down their noses at the 'New " immigrants. Nothing changes, one group comes in and two generations later they are worried that the new group will destroy the country.
So maybe people will not have the safety net they once had. Hey the safety net is a new idea, people existed and even thrived with out it. Adaptation. Have a little faith. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| rollo wrote: |
| record high unemployment? where? U.S. unemployment is roughly 7.8% under Reagan in the 80's it touched 10 percent. |
I suppose someone on this board has to flag for Obama.
There are statistics, damned statistics, and unemployment statistics.
Real unemployment 23%
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The real unemployment rate for December 2012 is closer to 23 percent, not the 7.8 percent reported by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, according to economist John Williams.
Williams, author of the Shadow Government Statistics website, argues that the federal government manipulates the reporting of key economic data for political purposes, using methodologies that tend to mask bad news |
Obama's Real Unemployment Rate Is 14.7%
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The BLS reported 12.1 million still unemployed in September, another 8.6 million employed part-time for economic reasons, and another 2.5 million marginally attached to the labor force. The latter �were not counted as unemployed because they had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the [September] survey,� even though they �wanted and were available for work,� according to the BLS.
All of these are counted in the U6 unemployment rate as also reported by the BLS. Because the primary change during the month was that 582,000 on net shifted from unemployed to employed part time for economic reasons, this U6 unemployment rate remained unchanged last month at 14.7%. The total suffering this U6 unemployment was 23.2 million.
Moreover, even this doesn�t nearly fully account for the 8.2 million Americans who have given up hope during the Obama term of office, and dropped out of the work force altogether. When you are considered out of the work force, you are no longer counted as unemployed, even though you still do not have a job, and you still want and are available for work. |
Real unemployment rate 14.4%
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| If we add back the excluded 2.614 million displaced workers to the labor market, and include the 7.918 million underemployed part-timers in the unemployed count, December adjusted unemployment is found to be ((12.206M + 2.614M + 7.918M) / (155.511M + 2.614M)) * 100 = 14.4%. In November, the rate was ((12.042M + 2.505M + 8.138M) / (155.319M + 2.505M)) * 100 = 14.4%, or the same misery. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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That elite universities are reluctant to expand their student bodies speaks less to prudent national population goals than to the perversity of U.S. News & World Report's college rankings. A continual moderate increase in population is good for any economy.
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| Everybody knows that a bigger population is Good for the Economy. |
Yes, and everyone knows 1 + 1 = 2. That's because its true and obvious. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Why? |
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