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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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I find it a bit ironic (not coincidental) that the op wants to educate the world's youth one country at a time and has picked the EPIK program to do so; there isn't much educating one can do in Korean public schools. Also, "historic culture and diversities within it"? Have fun with that let down.
Otherwise, it's commendable what your plans are, op.
Btw, I worked for SMOE for several years, and now work at an international school in China. The i.s. is more rewarding for a certified teacher imo. |
I don't have experience teaching in Soko so I can't make judgements. I can only comment that I am passionate about art of teaching and I want to work in a country that accepts my abilities and will contribute to expanding my craft. As stated before, I'd love to work at an international school, but I'm unsure of the process. Either way, getting my international feet wet in Soko doesn't sound too bad??[/quote]
The process is easy:
http://www.ibo.org/ (apply to IBO schools directly via the school's websites (found on the IBO webpage)).
http://www.tes.co.uk/jobs pick a corner of the planet and work from there.
http://www.searchassociates.com/ hit up a few job fairs. membershiop required. Must be a certified teacher.
http://www.tieonline.com/
http://www.tieonline.com/job_ads_list.cfm membership required.
Tain't rocket science.
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texasteacher
Joined: 26 Dec 2012
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Tom,
Your last comment wasn't warranted, if your going to give comments give them respectfully. I haven't made any negative remarks towards your posts or comments regardless of how obtuse some appeared.
Nevertheless, thanks for the resources. I've previously searched through those avenues. No luck as of yet. |
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cam83
Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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To be fair 'Tain't rocket science' was fairly warranted simply for the fact that anyone hoping to teach at an international school is expected to know how to use the Internet to search for such queries.
Question: Is your degree recognized anywhere outside of Texas (you did say you were qualified to teach in your state-though I'm not 100% sure how it works in the US) as far as teaching EFL? Would be good to find out to help determine your approach to future jobs. If your degree isn't recognized by EPIK, I can only imagine it would be the same with an International school.
'Interdisciplinary Studies' sounds pretty broad and I think to merit a pay rise/higher base pay is for those with a BA/MA in English related degrees - which from what I can gather, your isn't.
September gives you plenty of time to get your 100hr TEFL - you may not want to do it, but if you want a higher salary, it looks like your only option. |
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duckiedoodle
Joined: 02 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I posted up thread about having the same issue with my Texas university calling education degrees interdisciplinary studies. I was speaking with a friend who works in the Registrar's Office and she had some suggestions. If your university is like mine you can try to petition them to print your concentration on your transcript which will show the education part. She also said that the university could write a notarized letter and seal it in with a transcript. How odd that more than one university names their degrees this way. To answer the question above it is an education degree. For teaching in the US nobody every questions what it is. My university churns out many teachers and I am sure UNT does as well so the nomenclature is familiar. You get a TX teaching license assuming you pass the tests. |
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duckiedoodle
Joined: 02 Jan 2013
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I decided to research one of the big three schools in TX to see how they name things and Texas A&M does the interdisciplinary studies thing too. Here is a quote from their catalog:
Most students interested in early childhood/
elementary (PreK-6) or middle school (4� certification pursue a program leading to the
Bachelor of Science degree (B.S.) with a major in
interdisciplinary studies (INST). The
INST degree certification programs prepare students for the many diverse instructional
roles assumed by public school teachers.
I guess now we know the reasoning for the name. |
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cam83
Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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And let's not forget that you are on THEIR criteria for eligibility.
So... OP, what pay level have you been offered? And what is the pay level that you feel applies to you with your additional teaching qualification/certificate? |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Ineligible for higher pay level. |
So you did get in? Honestly, OP, I�m not sure how many bones you want us to throw for you here. You�ve been told multiple times by multiple people (including ttompatz back in January) that EPIK is beneath you and that you should apply for international schools. Programs like EPIK are fine but they are often quite frustrating for people who have been indoctrinated by a particular method of teaching back home.
If you didn�t get the pay level you expected then either they deliberately didn�t want to acknowledge it because they didn�t want to (or couldn�t) pay you more or because the credential in question didn�t add to other credentials that put you in a particular pay grade.
I�m not getting the pay I�m eligible for either, and yeah, it bothered me at first. But given the other options (as well as the options of most other EPIK teachers), I�m really not in a good position to complain. You, on the other hand, have better options. So I don�t think you�re gonna hear many violins playing for you here. Money has been tightening up in EPIK and GEPIK for the past few years. Some experience is good, but too much is too expensive.
Sorry if this message is a little sharp, but I think some of us are slapping our foreheads here. Teach Away in Hong Kong, public schools in Taiwan, or just any country that has international schools. ttompatz gave some good links. You can also check with the career center at whatever university you got your teaching degree from. They might have resources.
Anyway, good luck! |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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| I posted up thread about having the same issue with my Texas university calling education degrees interdisciplinary studies. |
Well, this could render my previous post moot...but it depends on what other credentials you have and where your teaching certificate would have put you on the pay scale, had they recognized it. Since EPIK no longer hires Level 3, you must have other credentials that they did recognize. Also have to look at the wording of the pay scale brackets. Some credentials are redundant and won't advance you to a higher bracket. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: I'm stumped!! EPIK 2013 |
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Wow, I'm so confused. I'm applying for the Fall 2013 intake and thought all was well. *Bubble burst*
I was just advised by an EPIK coordinator that my B.S. in Interdisciplinary Studies does not qualify as an education major with EPIK. In Texas, I attended UNT college of education (one of the best schools in Texas for teachers) programs. The entire program is education related filled with instructual classes and practicums.....everything required for teaching including a year student teaching. I am certified in my state so that's the only thing I have going for me. My face is completely on the floor!!
Has anyone else experienced anything like this? |
You still have a Bachelor's degree and are still hired by EPIK? You don't have the higher pay bump as an Ed Major is all? Get some letter from your school dean explaining it is an education degree if it is and that it is recognized by the state. Also get a letter from your state board stating they consider your degree as an Ed degree. Once you get over here, you can argue and appeal it with EPIK. Don't listen to some dip sh!t, I mean university intern, on the phone who has no clue about local certifications in North America. Get over here and then argue it via EPIK chain of command. Just get those letters in hand. Good luck son. If it don't work out, there's always China. Carry on. |
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