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if you do not even understand the importance of controlling shipping lanes why are you on this thread. that has been one of the main condiderations of all military powers for the last century and a half. Its why the U.s. has carriers off the coast of korea and Taiwan and carriers guarding the oil shipping lanes in the persian gulf.


Read mahan "On Sea Power" or Roosevelts 'naval History of the war of 1812".

Oh just read the history of WWII and see that keeping control of the medditerrean and the North Atalntic was key to the allies defeating Germany. or how the U.s. control of the mid pacific region ensured victory agains the Japanese.

But the topic is the fly over by a b-52. thats all fun and games. Jarvis called it correctly

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[rollo]

Oh well then why does China back north Korea and why didnt China allow Macarthur to unify the country?

But if you dotn think control of north Asia is important. Hmm.

No great expense to unify korea. Sea blockade, give arms to the North endless supplies. South Korea runs out of fuel,ammo in a couple of weeks. easy victory.

Infiltrate and deliver propaganda message that unification is good and getting rid of the Japanese- American imperialists means freedom.

But personally i think China like the U.S. in south korea and they know a unified korea under Chinese control is unacceptable to both russia and Japan. it's all good.
But as Kaplan points out for all the technological and political shifts geography wins out. Korea is the pivot point for north Asia. Thats a sad thing for the korean people, always has been.

The issue that really interest me is the sell of the advanced fighters to China by the Russians. this is a break with Russia's previous policy. What it means for the future in the region.

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[diver]

I wonder why the writer didn't report that the US has stationed nuclear capable aircraft at bases around South Korea?

No one ever talks about the subs....(first shots fired in Desert Storm were from subs).

[bucheon bum]

B-2 doing bomb runs off the coast of the ROK

[rollo]

I am sorry i really , well I am sorry. I had not realized until i read your post that China was now ruled by a wise kind group of peace loving monks who's only pupose in life is to bring and age of love, unicorns and candycanes to the world. Tell me exactly how they have changed. different party?? Nope. Uh different goals? Read the constitution of the Peoples Republic of China , the part about regaining all of China's stolen territory.

I imagine the new fighter they just bought will be turned int o some kind of playground attraction for children.

perhaps the subs they just bought can be used for tourist to view the scenic underwater world of the yellow sea.

How would korea being unified affect their trade. europe and north America will continue to buy their goods. Oh their will be actions taken. Some Canadians will write STRongly worded letters to the U.N and braave German or Dutch citizens will burn a north Korean flag or two. But they will still buy Chinese made goods. Korea united so easy.

The threat of blockade will stop shipping , can not get insurance. Really think the South korean navy stands a chance against the North koreans and the Chinese navies.

heres a story. after the Rape of Nanjing, Britain did more trade with Japan No one would care in the West. not a soul if South korean went down.

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[rollo]

if the u.S. pulls out its over. Build Nuclear wapons. No one would allow South korea to build nuclear weapons. that would guarantee that North korea and china take over the South.

the only reason the North can get awaywith it is because the Chinese back their play.

You really live in a fantasy if you think that South Korea has any chance of winning a war without help. i t has none.

too easy to blockade. But more than that it's army has no room for manuever. it can not gve up land t just has to stand and fight. Easy pickings. Remember the north has a lot more manpower available because of the ethnic Korean population in north China. Lots more equipment because the Chinese can give them anything they want.

if korea did go nuclear it would guarantee the u.S. out. they wll still defend japan but not South korea.

No resupply from the U.S. those f 15's can not fly. Once they are out of ammo and fuel, spare parts they sit on the grond
neculear, option, say hit Beijing with a nuke kill three to for million. China does not flinch. But if Chinese subs hit Seoul wth five nukes war s over.
But t wll not come to nke, a week after the start of reunficaton when the spply situation becomes obvious, South korean generals and polticians start to reevaluate ther poston and go over to the north's sde.

f Chna s so knd and has no intentons toward the South , then why does so much of its mltary ring South korea?

yeah Japan and Chna are gong to allow South Korea to go nuclear,ha. And U.S. beef spreads mad cow disease. Same logic.

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Oh yeah the nternatonal communty. Hmm. Ever read or heard about the U.S. nvason and occupaton of Iraq. Wow the nternatonal communty really jumped on that one. Some severe letters were wrtten to newspapers and some U.s. tourists were insulted.

Russan nvason of Afghanstan and Georga. everybody yawned.

chnese butchering Tbetans months before the olympcs. No reacton by nternatonal communty.

Japan is a defacto nuclear power. They probably already already have some assembled, but f not they can have one in weeks.

A nuclear South korea would be the reason for China and the North to invade t would n fact guarantee an nvason. guaranteed. it would also put the nuclear option as self defense nto China's hand. Who would win that exchange do you think. Why would China allow the South to have nuclear weapons. Please answer tha queston? Remember the U.s. has pulled out, no help s comng. Why would China allow that ?

Yes bomb loans. they are qute common I believe. Let me thnk when was the last tme a naton loaned a nuclear weapon to another country. Oh never. why Israel they have no real need to give anythng to South korea.

Yes can borrow a couple of hydrogen bombs ? Oh sure low yield s okay.

[cabeza]

What's your point?
IF China backed NK and IF the USA pulled all support for SK and IF there was a blockade South Korea would be up the creek.
Yes. Ok.
But none of those things, at present, are going to happen.

You know what scares me? The US invading Mexico!
They could do it too. Send a couple of divisions over the border and capture the northern cities. Then just nuke Mexico city. Of course while blockading both coasts. They've already siezed California and most of the south west and texas, so i think the time is right for the final phase of invading the rest of Mexico.

IT COULD HAPPEN !!!!!!

[diver]

If the Chinese can gain the moon, then they can blockade the Earth. They'd need Mars and Venus as well, but the moon would be a great place to resupply those two from. Once the Chinese set up unobtanium mining ops on Mars and Venus, plus exploiting the gas resources of Saturn, it's all over at that point. We'll all be studying from "Gogo Loves Chinese".

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[OneWayTraffic]

Rollo, I've read through your posts and they are by far the most deluded crap I've read in a long time.

What possible benefit would there be for China to try and take over SK, when it is already having headaches with the North? Just about the only country they could invade and get away with would be NK.

And SK would go nuclear if that happened. The thing about nuclear weapons is that they raise the cost of war to the point where no sane state will contemplate using them except in the most extreme conditions. Certainly not for 'economic gain.'