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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| It seems the foreigner/Korean approach to learning Korean/English is the opposite in that foreigners/Koreans tend to focus on grammar/vocabulary, leaving them able/unable to make simple sentences, but unable/able to read lengthy Korean/English texts. But both of them have funny accents. |
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salutbonjour
Joined: 22 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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I know many people who studied Korean up to a TOPIK level 3 (maybe around 30), it took around 4 to 6 semesters of Korean full-time (with 4 semesters per year). It took me a year.
As others have mentioned, passive vocabulary learning is the hard part. I struggle to keep up with my studies and only learn at most 4-5 words a week nowadays. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
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Korea defender TheUrbanMyth is like schwa. He has lived in rural Korea for 13 years and will almost certainly be there for many more years to come. (He said he wouldn't mind retiring here.) His Korean level is solidly beginner. (He boasts about knowing the phonetics of 한글 and being able to order off a menu...but after 13 years in the sticks, that's nothing to brag about really.) In fact, if he ever scores low intermediate on the Test of Proficiency in Korean, I will leave these forums for good. (TUM has said he dislikes me and wishes I will stop posting here. Now is his big chance to achieve that. 一石二鳥.)
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Just a few things you have in error (not that you have just a few errors....you are pretty wrong about most things..but these are the glaring ones.)
First of all I have never "boasted" about my Korean level or anything like that. I was asked a question about it and I responded as honestly as I could judge my progression. And I have not lived all 13 years here in the sticks (Daejeon and Ulsan are hardly "the sticks".
And no I don't dislike you personally...I've never met you. I dislike your POSTS, because they're usually filled with errors and mistaken assumptions...much like this one. But no I don't dislike you, you provide comic relief if nothing else. Nor do I wish you would stop posting here, but I wish you would stop posting the TYPE of stuff you do/at least check the facts.
Lastly as for my Korean ability...I've not bothered studying it much beyond the stage where I can make myself understood/understand in daily life. (It's made my life easier) but at this point I don't see much more financial/personal benefit in learning more about the language...when looking at it from a benefit-cost point of view.
(BTW I'm Canadian and grew up with both French and English so that shoots down your theory.)
I will say this about it though. I know quite a bit more than just
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| " knowing the phonetics of 한글 and being able to order off a menu." |
I can use it in class (when a student just doesn't understand the English word...although I try to limit that) and I can use it in most daily conversations. I've even been told I "sound Korean" by a Korean speaker...I think it was meant as a compliment.
But here's some free advice. Instead of worrying about what other people do or can not do and putting them down for it why not devote all that free time to studying Korean? It just might open a few more doors employment-wise for you (as it did for me)? |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Just an update.... Daughter is now 3 and uses English and Korean. I work with her a lot in English and she gets a lot of Korean from everyone else.
I recommend downloading: Leapfrog, SuperWhy, Dora The Explorer, Blues Clues, Diego, and other learning-based cartoons. Netflix has all of these and more. Using a VPN service to access an overseas acct is priceless. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:35 am Post subject: |
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Yup, the iPad has helped my girl tons in learning English. The ones you mentioned, plus as she gets older, others.
Right now she's hooked on the 80s version of Muppet Babies.  |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Just a few things you have in error (not that you have just a few errors....you are pretty wrong about most things..but these are the glaring ones.) |
Ah, so you are calling me a liar (or at the very least factually inaccurate). I'd say that applies more to you than me. What are all these errors I made? As you like to nitpick the pettiest things, I'm sure if anything was the slightest bit off, you would have instantly pointed it out.
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| First of all I have never "boasted" about my Korean level |
False! You do it all the time. You say, "In my thirteen years in Korea, I've made good use of my time and worked my way up by getting better at Korean, among other things." Yeah man, you really worked your way up. That's why you are at the beginner level in Korean (despite what you may claim) and you are still working as a teaching assistant. You are unbelievably pretentious, and as diver said, a bully.
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| Nor do I wish you would stop posting here |
O RLY? You said this in the past. Want to bet you didn't? How about, if I find the post, you quit posting for a month. Deal?
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| Lastly as for my Korean ability...I've not bothered studying it much beyond the stage where I can make myself understood/understand in daily life. (It's made my life easier) but at this point I don't see much more financial/personal benefit in learning more about the language...when looking at it from a benefit-cost point of view. |
Coming from someone who claims to know the culture so well and love Korea so much, that seems odd, but to each their own.
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| (BTW I'm Canadian and grew up with both French and English so that shoots down your theory.) |
You grew up fully bilingual at a young age (not just had some French classes in school)? Well, this is a big advantage...but not everyone chooses to utilize this advantage...and even with the leg up, learning Korean takes a TON of time, no matter who you are...but obviously having a much lower opportunity cost is preferable.
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| I've even been told I "sound Korean" |
If you're curious about your actual ability, take the TOPIK test. My offer still stands.
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| But here's some free advice. Instead of worrying about what other people do or can not do and putting them down for it why not devote all that free time to studying Korean? It just might open a few more doors employment-wise for you (as it did for me)? |
Your beginner level Korean opened some doors employment wise? That's good. I'm pretty sure my Korean is better than yours. I'm glad you and I made this post. Now you will have to stop bragging about how good your Korean is. (And it's really not, given the amount of time you've been here.) And should I stop worrying about other people and putting them down? Sure. OK, I will stop being insulting towards others if you agree to do the same. Can you do it? |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Yup, the iPad has helped my girl tons in learning English. The ones you mentioned, plus as she gets older, others.
Right now she's hooked on the 80s version of Muppet Babies. |
What does she think of Fraggle Rock? |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
Yup, the iPad has helped my girl tons in learning English. The ones you mentioned, plus as she gets older, others.
Right now she's hooked on the 80s version of Muppet Babies. |
What does she think of Fraggle Rock? |
Great children's show, but the no-eyes fraggle who is obsessed with doing laundry reminds me so much of the common worker-consumer that it is depressing.
The best children's show, however, is Count Duckula. It's so surreal that I still think about it sometimes. A dynasty of vicious, vampire ducks! |
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