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itiswhatitis
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:08 am Post subject: How long to go from Geek to Freak???? |
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I've been doing weights 3 times a week (powerlifts and compound lifts)
for 2 months and I look bigger.
Taking whey protein, creatine, multivitamins, fish oil and eating lots of clean/healthy proteins and fats.
I think that it will take about 9 months, so 7 months left.
Any insight??
Thanks!!!! |
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optik404

Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Depends what you started at and how much you're eating. But no, after 9 months you won't look like some huge freak. You'll be bigger but it takes years of dedication to get noticeably bigger. |
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silkhighway
Joined: 24 Oct 2010 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Check out the Gym Regime thread. There's a dedicated group of us in there.
I've been lifting heavy for about 5 months now, and I wouldn't say I'm much bigger (haven't weighed myself in awhile now), but I'm definitely firmer looking. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Age and genetics are important factors.
Don't give up. Keep at it. You might plateau for a while, maybe even a couple of years, but then little by little you'll start getting bigger than you had imagined possible. I was 70 pounds heavier than when I started when I was at my heaviest. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:49 am Post subject: |
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3 times a week may be too much. Try twice a week. It gives you more recovery time in between. To gain maximum effect, eat protein like hell which will cause you to gain fat also. The fat you can lose later. |
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MoneyMike
Joined: 03 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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A lot depends on your body type and genetics. In university I had a roommate who worked out really seriously and ate super well. I made more gains in 3 months than he made in a whole year though, just because I have the type of body that does it easily, and he was what's referred to as a hardgainer, someone who (genetically I think) takes a lot more dedication to build muscle. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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silkhighway wrote: |
Check out the Gym Regime thread. There's a dedicated group of us in there. |
This would be my suggestion as well. |
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Gamecock

Joined: 26 Nov 2003
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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The secret that no one in the fitness industry will tell the public is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get very big (i.e. a freak) taking creatine and the legal supplements on the market. Every guy promoting them is juiced. They didn't get that body from just taking creatine and fish oil and hitting the gym. But they want you to keep buying their products.
Natural guys have 2 choices...you can get bigger and be a little fat or you can be slim, tight, and toned like a lot of hollywood guys. But you can't be really big with a small percentage of body fat without steroids or HGH or the like. Your body can only build so much muscle naturally. |
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optik404

Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Gamecock wrote: |
The secret that no one in the fitness industry will tell the public is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get very big (i.e. a freak) taking creatine and the legal supplements on the market. Every guy promoting them is juiced. They didn't get that body from just taking creatine and fish oil and hitting the gym. But they want you to keep buying their products.
Natural guys have 2 choices...you can get bigger and be a little fat or you can be slim, tight, and toned like a lot of hollywood guys. But you can't be really big with a small percentage of body fat without steroids or HGH or the like. Your body can only build so much muscle naturally. |
That's not a secret. Everyone knows it.
And it is possible to get bigger naturally and stay lean. Why would you think someone need steroids to get to a lower bf%? That doesn't even compute. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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I've been doing weights 3 times a week (powerlifts and compound lifts)
for 2 months and I look bigger.
Taking whey protein, creatine, multivitamins, fish oil and eating lots of clean/healthy proteins and fats.
I think that it will take about 9 months, so 7 months left.
Any insight??
Thanks!!!! |
Do you find yourself looking in the mirror more and 'pouting?'
ha ha
Be careful that doesn�t become a full blown medical condition!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_dysmorphic_disorder
(not joking!) |
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Gamecock

Joined: 26 Nov 2003
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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optik404 wrote: |
Gamecock wrote: |
The secret that no one in the fitness industry will tell the public is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get very big (i.e. a freak) taking creatine and the legal supplements on the market. Every guy promoting them is juiced. They didn't get that body from just taking creatine and fish oil and hitting the gym. But they want you to keep buying their products.
Natural guys have 2 choices...you can get bigger and be a little fat or you can be slim, tight, and toned like a lot of hollywood guys. But you can't be really big with a small percentage of body fat without steroids or HGH or the like. Your body can only build so much muscle naturally. |
That's not a secret. Everyone knows it.
And it is possible to get bigger naturally and stay lean. Why would you think someone need steroids to get to a lower bf%? That doesn't even compute. |
A little bigger, yes. To be a freak with a low percentage body fat you gotta juice. You don't need steroids to have lower bf%. The natural human body will be LEAN under 10% body fat. |
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KimchiNinja

Joined: 01 May 2012 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:28 pm Post subject: Re: How long to go from Geek to Freak???? |
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itiswhatitis wrote: |
I've been doing weights 3 times a week (powerlifts and compound lifts)
for 2 months and I look bigger. |
I'm on 2 months of barbell lifting and absolutely noticing the muscle, but not sure it's visible to anyone else yet. For me I eat piles of meat, fish, eggs, vegis, nuts, and grass fed butter, while avoiding sugar and starch (pretty much "paleolithic" diet). Get lots of rest, lift heavy stuff, wait years for the effects to add up.
Ask C.Corea, he's massive. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:14 am Post subject: |
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Gamecock wrote: |
optik404 wrote: |
Gamecock wrote: |
The secret that no one in the fitness industry will tell the public is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get very big (i.e. a freak) taking creatine and the legal supplements on the market. Every guy promoting them is juiced. They didn't get that body from just taking creatine and fish oil and hitting the gym. But they want you to keep buying their products.
Natural guys have 2 choices...you can get bigger and be a little fat or you can be slim, tight, and toned like a lot of hollywood guys. But you can't be really big with a small percentage of body fat without steroids or HGH or the like. Your body can only build so much muscle naturally. |
That's not a secret. Everyone knows it.
And it is possible to get bigger naturally and stay lean. Why would you think someone need steroids to get to a lower bf%? That doesn't even compute. |
A little bigger, yes. To be a freak with a low percentage body fat you gotta juice. You don't need steroids to have lower bf%. The natural human body will be LEAN under 10% body fat. |
I've seen my share of natural freaks - but we may vary on our definitions of "freak".
My old training partner (5'7") holds three pro cards in various natural federations - he was pretty freaky. Not Olympia freaky, but freaky enough that he could curl 110lb dumbbells. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Captain Corea wrote: |
Gamecock wrote: |
optik404 wrote: |
Gamecock wrote: |
The secret that no one in the fitness industry will tell the public is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get very big (i.e. a freak) taking creatine and the legal supplements on the market. Every guy promoting them is juiced. They didn't get that body from just taking creatine and fish oil and hitting the gym. But they want you to keep buying their products.
Natural guys have 2 choices...you can get bigger and be a little fat or you can be slim, tight, and toned like a lot of hollywood guys. But you can't be really big with a small percentage of body fat without steroids or HGH or the like. Your body can only build so much muscle naturally. |
That's not a secret. Everyone knows it.
And it is possible to get bigger naturally and stay lean. Why would you think someone need steroids to get to a lower bf%? That doesn't even compute. |
A little bigger, yes. To be a freak with a low percentage body fat you gotta juice. You don't need steroids to have lower bf%. The natural human body will be LEAN under 10% body fat. |
I've seen my share of natural freaks - but we may vary on our definitions of "freak".
My old training partner (5'7") holds three pro cards in various natural federations - he was pretty freaky. Not Olympia freaky, but freaky enough that he could curl 110lb dumbbells. |
Yes, totally. I used to curl 55kg dumbbells regularly (standing hammer curls, so I'm not sure that counts), and I'm about that height. I could probably do about 35kg now...if they had more than 20kg dumbbells at my gym. |
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2i2dk1ny2i3
Joined: 26 Jun 2011
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Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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its depends on so many different factors
a crucial one being your Metabolism, high low somewhere in the middle
another is your physique, bone density, current weight/height, etc.
one thing that does happen to EVERYONE is a plateau, simply put, when your body becomes adjusted to your routine, switch up your routine
good luck and 7 months is possible but don't get discouraged if it doesn't happen because unless you've been lifting your whole life meaning not just a couple years or months ago, it will not be that easy |
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