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How long to go from Geek to Freak????
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itiswhatitis



Joined: 08 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:08 am    Post subject: How long to go from Geek to Freak???? Reply with quote

I've been doing weights 3 times a week (powerlifts and compound lifts)
for 2 months and I look bigger.

Taking whey protein, creatine, multivitamins, fish oil and eating lots of clean/healthy proteins and fats.

I think that it will take about 9 months, so 7 months left.

Any insight??

Thanks!!!!
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optik404



Joined: 24 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what you started at and how much you're eating. But no, after 9 months you won't look like some huge freak. You'll be bigger but it takes years of dedication to get noticeably bigger.
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silkhighway



Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the Gym Regime thread. There's a dedicated group of us in there.

I've been lifting heavy for about 5 months now, and I wouldn't say I'm much bigger (haven't weighed myself in awhile now), but I'm definitely firmer looking.
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Age and genetics are important factors.

Don't give up. Keep at it. You might plateau for a while, maybe even a couple of years, but then little by little you'll start getting bigger than you had imagined possible. I was 70 pounds heavier than when I started when I was at my heaviest.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 times a week may be too much. Try twice a week. It gives you more recovery time in between. To gain maximum effect, eat protein like hell which will cause you to gain fat also. The fat you can lose later.
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MoneyMike



Joined: 03 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot depends on your body type and genetics. In university I had a roommate who worked out really seriously and ate super well. I made more gains in 3 months than he made in a whole year though, just because I have the type of body that does it easily, and he was what's referred to as a hardgainer, someone who (genetically I think) takes a lot more dedication to build muscle.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silkhighway wrote:
Check out the Gym Regime thread. There's a dedicated group of us in there.


This would be my suggestion as well.
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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The secret that no one in the fitness industry will tell the public is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get very big (i.e. a freak) taking creatine and the legal supplements on the market. Every guy promoting them is juiced. They didn't get that body from just taking creatine and fish oil and hitting the gym. But they want you to keep buying their products.

Natural guys have 2 choices...you can get bigger and be a little fat or you can be slim, tight, and toned like a lot of hollywood guys. But you can't be really big with a small percentage of body fat without steroids or HGH or the like. Your body can only build so much muscle naturally.
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optik404



Joined: 24 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gamecock wrote:
The secret that no one in the fitness industry will tell the public is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get very big (i.e. a freak) taking creatine and the legal supplements on the market. Every guy promoting them is juiced. They didn't get that body from just taking creatine and fish oil and hitting the gym. But they want you to keep buying their products.

Natural guys have 2 choices...you can get bigger and be a little fat or you can be slim, tight, and toned like a lot of hollywood guys. But you can't be really big with a small percentage of body fat without steroids or HGH or the like. Your body can only build so much muscle naturally.


That's not a secret. Everyone knows it.

And it is possible to get bigger naturally and stay lean. Why would you think someone need steroids to get to a lower bf%? That doesn't even compute.
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Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I've been doing weights 3 times a week (powerlifts and compound lifts)
for 2 months and I look bigger.

Taking whey protein, creatine, multivitamins, fish oil and eating lots of clean/healthy proteins and fats.

I think that it will take about 9 months, so 7 months left.

Any insight??

Thanks!!!!


Do you find yourself looking in the mirror more and 'pouting?'

ha ha Very Happy

Be careful that doesn�t become a full blown medical condition!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_dysmorphic_disorder

(not joking!)
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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

optik404 wrote:
Gamecock wrote:
The secret that no one in the fitness industry will tell the public is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get very big (i.e. a freak) taking creatine and the legal supplements on the market. Every guy promoting them is juiced. They didn't get that body from just taking creatine and fish oil and hitting the gym. But they want you to keep buying their products.

Natural guys have 2 choices...you can get bigger and be a little fat or you can be slim, tight, and toned like a lot of hollywood guys. But you can't be really big with a small percentage of body fat without steroids or HGH or the like. Your body can only build so much muscle naturally.


That's not a secret. Everyone knows it.

And it is possible to get bigger naturally and stay lean. Why would you think someone need steroids to get to a lower bf%? That doesn't even compute.


A little bigger, yes. To be a freak with a low percentage body fat you gotta juice. You don't need steroids to have lower bf%. The natural human body will be LEAN under 10% body fat.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: How long to go from Geek to Freak???? Reply with quote

itiswhatitis wrote:
I've been doing weights 3 times a week (powerlifts and compound lifts)
for 2 months and I look bigger.


I'm on 2 months of barbell lifting and absolutely noticing the muscle, but not sure it's visible to anyone else yet. For me I eat piles of meat, fish, eggs, vegis, nuts, and grass fed butter, while avoiding sugar and starch (pretty much "paleolithic" diet). Get lots of rest, lift heavy stuff, wait years for the effects to add up.

Ask C.Corea, he's massive.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gamecock wrote:
optik404 wrote:
Gamecock wrote:
The secret that no one in the fitness industry will tell the public is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get very big (i.e. a freak) taking creatine and the legal supplements on the market. Every guy promoting them is juiced. They didn't get that body from just taking creatine and fish oil and hitting the gym. But they want you to keep buying their products.

Natural guys have 2 choices...you can get bigger and be a little fat or you can be slim, tight, and toned like a lot of hollywood guys. But you can't be really big with a small percentage of body fat without steroids or HGH or the like. Your body can only build so much muscle naturally.


That's not a secret. Everyone knows it.

And it is possible to get bigger naturally and stay lean. Why would you think someone need steroids to get to a lower bf%? That doesn't even compute.


A little bigger, yes. To be a freak with a low percentage body fat you gotta juice. You don't need steroids to have lower bf%. The natural human body will be LEAN under 10% body fat.


I've seen my share of natural freaks - but we may vary on our definitions of "freak".

My old training partner (5'7") holds three pro cards in various natural federations - he was pretty freaky. Not Olympia freaky, but freaky enough that he could curl 110lb dumbbells.
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Gamecock wrote:
optik404 wrote:
Gamecock wrote:
The secret that no one in the fitness industry will tell the public is that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get very big (i.e. a freak) taking creatine and the legal supplements on the market. Every guy promoting them is juiced. They didn't get that body from just taking creatine and fish oil and hitting the gym. But they want you to keep buying their products.

Natural guys have 2 choices...you can get bigger and be a little fat or you can be slim, tight, and toned like a lot of hollywood guys. But you can't be really big with a small percentage of body fat without steroids or HGH or the like. Your body can only build so much muscle naturally.


That's not a secret. Everyone knows it.

And it is possible to get bigger naturally and stay lean. Why would you think someone need steroids to get to a lower bf%? That doesn't even compute.


A little bigger, yes. To be a freak with a low percentage body fat you gotta juice. You don't need steroids to have lower bf%. The natural human body will be LEAN under 10% body fat.


I've seen my share of natural freaks - but we may vary on our definitions of "freak".

My old training partner (5'7") holds three pro cards in various natural federations - he was pretty freaky. Not Olympia freaky, but freaky enough that he could curl 110lb dumbbells.


Yes, totally. I used to curl 55kg dumbbells regularly (standing hammer curls, so I'm not sure that counts), and I'm about that height. I could probably do about 35kg now...if they had more than 20kg dumbbells at my gym.
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2i2dk1ny2i3



Joined: 26 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its depends on so many different factors

a crucial one being your Metabolism, high low somewhere in the middle

another is your physique, bone density, current weight/height, etc.


one thing that does happen to EVERYONE is a plateau, simply put, when your body becomes adjusted to your routine, switch up your routine


good luck and 7 months is possible but don't get discouraged if it doesn't happen because unless you've been lifting your whole life meaning not just a couple years or months ago, it will not be that easy
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