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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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I was really shocked by the bombs. Who the hell bombs a marathon? How friggin wicked can one be....Then I remembered all the Boston Irish who financed and armed the IRA in N. Ireland for thirty years. They had to endure hundreds of bombs and thousands of casualties. And it was in no small part due to the moral, financial, political and material support offered from Irish Americans. This could be a learning moment for Boston's Irish.
Maybe someday their representatives might want to apologize to the people of Northern Ireland for the slaughter they helped create on the streets of Belfast.
Bombs ain't fun, now are they Boston? |
That's just about the crappiest post anyone could write. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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I was really shocked by the bombs. Who the hell bombs a marathon? How friggin wicked can one be....Then I remembered all the Boston Irish who financed and armed the IRA in N. Ireland for thirty years. They had to endure hundreds of bombs and thousands of casualties. And it was in no small part due to the moral, financial, political and material support offered from Irish Americans. This could be a learning moment for Boston's Irish.
Maybe someday their representatives might want to apologize to the people of Northern Ireland for the slaughter they helped create on the streets of Belfast.
Bombs ain't fun, now are they Boston? |
You make a GREAT point, but it may well fall on deaf ears here.
'Irish' Americans always make me smile; it's amazing how the Irish accent lingers three generations down the line.
Anyway, back on topic......................................> |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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It's terrible and absolutely pea-witted. For one thing, all three of the deceased victims had nothing to do with the Troubles. One was Chinese, the other 29, and the third was an eight year old boy.
Next, not all of Boston is Irish or supported the IRA. Also not all of the Boston Irish-Americans supported the IRA.
I've heard a full-range of opinions from Irish-Americans on the Troubles, from utter disgust to open support. Most wish it could have been settled non-violently.
Anyways, saying Boston is all Irish is absolutely idiotic |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:58 am Post subject: |
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And the assassinated Kennedy brothers were also Irish. However, I think it's more likely that the NRA has something to do with this than the IRA.
How about the brilliant rationale (by a Texas Republican who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee) for rejecting any connection between ricin-laced letter sent to Senator who deviated from the NRA's orders to reject any gun control measures and the Boston bombings? ... http://washingtonexaminer.com/house-homeland-security-chair-no-evidence-tying-ricin-letter-to-boston-marathon-bombing/article/2527383 "It would be inconsistent with terrorist philosophy [to use ricin]" |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Sure scorpion and aybe soeday rowell will get out of hell.
A learning moment!!!! WTF. Hopefully you will have a learning moment someday. |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Rteacher

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Kimbop

Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Looks like they finally found one of the democrat muslims who did this. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Reports of an arrest were wrong, and it isn't clear yet if they now have a suspect. |
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Udo
Joined: 22 May 2011 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:27 am Post subject: |
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If they catch the person and it is a white person, they will post his face all over the media. If its a person of color, they will try to ignore the info & rationalize the violence.
Let�s hope the Boston Marathon bomber is a white American
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/16/lets_hope_the_boston_marathon_bomber_is_a_white_american/
There is a double standard: White terrorists are dealt with as lone wolves, Islamists are
existential threats
BY DAVID SIROT A
As we now move into the official
Political Aftermath period of the
Boston bombing � the period
that will determine the long-term
legislative fallout of the atrocity
� the dynamics of privilege will
undoubtedly influence the
nation�s collective reaction to the
attacks. That�s because privilege
tends to determine: 1) which
groups are � and are not �
collectively denigrated or
targeted for the unlawful actions
of individuals; and 2) how big and
politically game-changing the
overall reaction ends up being.
This has been most obvious in the
context of recent mass shootings.
In those awful episodes, a
religious or ethnic minority
group lacking such privilege
would likely be collectively
slandered and/or targeted with
surveillance or profiling (or
worse) if some of its individuals
comprised most of the mass shooters. However, white male privilege means white men are not collectively
denigrated/targeted for those shootings � even though most come at the hands of white dudes.
Likewise, in the context of terrorist attacks, such privilege means white non-Islamic terrorists are typically
portray ed not as representative of whole groups or ideologies, but as �lone wolf� threats to be dealt with as
isolated law enforcement matters. Meanwhile, non-white or developing-world terrorism suspects are often
reflexively portray ed as representative of larger conspiracies, ideologies and religions that must be dealt with as
sy stemic threats � the kind potentially requiring every thing from law enforcement action to military operations
to civil liberties legislation to foreign policy shifts.
�White privilege is knowing that even if the bomber turns out to be white, no one will call for your group to be4/17/13 Print: �Let�s hopetheBostonMarathonbomber is awhiteAmerican�Print- Salon.com
www.salon.com/2013/04/16/lets_hope_the_boston_marathon_bomber_is_a_white_american/print 2/3
profiled as terrorists as a result, subjected to special screening or threatened with deportation,� writes author
Tim Wise. �White privilege is knowing that if this bomber turns out to be white, the United States government
will not bomb whatever corn field or mountain town or stale suburb from which said bomber came, just to
ensure that others like him or her don�t get any ideas. And if he turns out to be a member of the Irish Republican
Army we won�t bomb Dublin. And if he�s an Italian-American Catholic we won�t bomb the Vatican.�
Because of these undeniable and pervasive double standards, the specific identity of the Boston Marathon
bomber (or bombers) is not some minor detail � it will almost certainly dictate what kind of governmental,
political and societal response we see in the coming weeks. That means regardless of your particular party
affiliation, if you care about every thing from stopping war to reducing the defense budget to protecting civil
liberties to passing immigration reform, you should hope the bomber was a white domestic terrorist. Why ?
Because only in that case will privilege work to prevent the Boston attack from potentially undermining progress
on those other issues.
To know that�s true is to simply consider how America reacts to different kinds of terrorism.
Though FBI data show fewer terrorist plots involving Muslims than terrorist plots involving non-Muslims,
America has mobilized a full-on war effort exclusively against the prospect of Islamic terrorism. Indeed, the
moniker �War on Terrorism� has come to specifically mean �War on Islamic Terrorism,� involving every thing
from new laws like the Patriot Act, to a new torture regime, to new federal agencies like the Transportation
Security Administration and Department of Homeland Security , to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to mass
surveillance of Muslim communities.
By contrast, even though America has seen a consistent barrage of attacks from domestic non-Islamic terrorists,
the privilege and double standards baked into our national security ideologies means those attacks have
resulted in no sy stemic action of the scope marshaled against foreign terrorists. In fact, it has been quite the
opposite � according to Darry l Johnson, the senior domestic terrorism analy st at the Department of Homeland
Security , the conservative movement backlash to merely reporting the rising threat of such domestic terrorism
resulted in DHS seriously curtailing its initiatives against that particular threat. (Irony alert: When it comes
specifically to fighting white non-Muslim domestic terrorists, the right seems to now support the very doctrine
it criticized Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry for articulating � the doctrine that sees fighting
terrorism as primarily �an intelligence-gathering, law-enforcement, public-diplomacy effort� and not something
more sy stemic.)
Enter the Boston bombing. Coming at the very moment the U.S. government is planning to withdraw from
Afghanistan, considering cuts to the Pentagon budget, discussing civil liberties principles and debating
landmark immigration legislation, the attack could easily become the fulcrum of all of those contentious policy
debates � that is, depending on the demographic profile of the assailant.
If recent history is any guide, if the bomber ends up being a white anti-government extremist, white privilege
will likely mean the attack is portray ed as just an isolated incident � one that has no bearing on any larger policy
debates. Put another way , white privilege will work to not only insulate whites from collective blame, but also to
insulate the political debate from any fallout from the attack.
It will probably be much different if the bomber ends up being a Muslim and/or a foreigner from the developing
world. As we know from our own history , when those kind of individuals break laws in such a high-profile way ,
America often cites them as both proof that entire demographic groups must be targeted, and that therefore a
more sy stemic response is warranted. At that point, it�s easy to imagine conservatives citing Boston as a reason
to block immigration reform defense spending cuts and the Afghan War withdrawal and to further expand
surveillance and other encroachments on civil liberties.4/17/13 Print: �Let�s hopetheBostonMarathonbomber is awhiteAmerican�Print- Salon.com
www.salon.com/2013/04/16/lets_hope_the_boston_marathon_bomber_is_a_white_american/print 3/3
If that sounds hard to believe, just look at y esterday �s comments by right-wing radio host Laura Ingraham,
whose talking points often become Republican Party doctrine. Though authorities haven�t even identified a
suspect in the Boston attack, she (like other conservatives) seems to already assume the assailant is foreign, and
is consequently citing the attack as rationale to slam the immigration reform bill.
The same Laura Ingraham, of course, was one of the leading voices criticizing the Department of Homeland
Security for daring to even report on right-wing domestic terrorism. In that sense, she perfectly embodies the
double standard that, more than any thing, will determine the long-term political impact of the Boston bombing.
David Sirota is a nationally syndicated newspaper columnist, magazine journalist and the best-selling
author of the books "Hostile Takeover," "The Uprising" and "Back to Our Future." E-mail him
at [email protected], follow him on Twitter @davidsirota or visit his website at www.davidsirota.com. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:29 am Post subject: |
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A suspect has been identified in the Boston Marathon bombings, but contrary to earlier reports, there has been no arrest, an unidentified law enforcement source tells CNN.
Several news stations including the Associated Press and CNN previously reported that their sources confirmed that a suspect had been arrested, but now that information is being contradicted. CNN now reports that a federal source may have misunderstood and that other sources are saying there were no arrests made.
There are other conflicting news reports. CBS and NBC reported prior to 2 p.m. ET that there was no suspect in custody, according to their unnamed sources.
There will be an official announcement at 5 p.m. ET.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/17/boston-marathon-bombing-suspect-identified_n_3101865.html
That's the most current info I can find (at 3:20 ET).
In the ricin letters, (Michigan) Senator Carl Levin was added to the list along with Senator Roger Wicker and Pres. Obama. "Sen. Claire McCaskill has said authorities have a suspect in mind in that case, though no one has been charged." |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Familiar with Wajahat Ali?
The Saudi suspect fiasco teaches those who are �Muslimy� to run away from life-threatening explosions in a calm, friendly manner as to not arouse suspicion. Another option includes running towards life-threatening explosions, but risk being falsely accused of orchestrating the violence. A third option is to stay in place with a smile plastered on your face; unfortunately, your well-intentioned attempts to placate hysteria will instead be mistaken as celebration.
The safest and best option is to freeze, smile widely, wave your American flags wildly, and repeat the mantra �I love America� patriotically. Also, because Islamophobes will forever accuse you of never condemning terrorism, please vociferously continue offering condemnations, like you always have, knowing full well they will fall on deaf, ignorant ears.
Say all of this � unless you have a foreign accent, in which case please remain silent in public. Two passengers headed to Chicago from Logan Airport were de-boarded a day after the Boston tragedy because passengers expressed concern hearing them speak Arabic.
He goes on to write:
White people wear a Teflon cloak whereas minorities wear a flimsy, moth-eaten cape of kryptonite and a �Kick Me� sign. In other words, white people are like Bugs Bunny allowed to observe the chaos at a distance, eat a carrot and make witty quips � but never asked to prove their loyalty or investigate and defend their own whiteness. Minorities are like Daffy Duck, forever doomed to have the anvil fall on our heads regardless of our individual guilt or innocence.
For example, here�s a CNN ticker from the day of the Boston tragedy: �Police looking for dark skinned or black male with foreign accent.� This description basically describes all the men in my entire family. Or, we can look forward to the wonderful moderation of Fox News contributor Erik Rush, an African American, who indicted, prosecuted, and sentenced to capital punishment all Muslims for the Boston blasts with this tweet: �[Muslims] are Evil. Let�s Kill them all.�
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/17/please_dont_let_it_be_a_muslim/
Several of his previous posts can be read by clicking More Wajahat Ali at the very bottom. I recommend 'How turkey came to our Thanksgiving Table' and 'Secrets of the Muslim bathroom'. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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The FBI briefing seems to have been cancelled. At least Gov. Patrick doesn't think one will be held.
It might have been cancelled because the feds are all busy working on the case and are fed up with the media screwing things up. Can't say as I would blame them if that's the case.
However, all was not lost. At 5:30 Obama gave a blistering chewing out of the GOP senators for defeating the background check amendment. If you closed your eyes, it sounded like he was channeling HST. He called it "a shameful day for Washington". |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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lets see or if you are muslim
1you can throw an all night street party, like what occurred in Dearborn Michigan and Miami Florida the night of 9/11, complete with signs and graffiti an lots of firework talking about bathing in the blood of the infidel. There there's that other option that was left out.
It is so tough, so descriminatory that two guys were asked to get off a plane. I weep. I seem to remember something about some guys speaking arabic, and planes and buildings in new York.
Theres a big difference between irrational fear or predjudice and being gunshy.
Some many worried about whether muslims will face predjudice not that thee are dead people and dozens who have lost limbs.
Geez! |
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Ya-ta Boy
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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