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young_clinton
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| Babe Korean stewardess, a particularly heinous assault. |
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asylum seeker
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| Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Misogyny, thy name is 아저씨. |
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daeguowl
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Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| He was fired. Although, people who know him say he is not that kind of bloke and at his employee hearing he provided a slightly different version of events, ultimately he had caused too much embarrassment to POSCO and was fired. |
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sirius black
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:47 am Post subject: |
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The incident is really about social changes in Korea. 10 or 15 years ago, an ajoshi could do that and no one would bat an eye. Korea had a somewhat 'Mad Men'-esque culture not too long ago. Plenty of stories of husbands smacking their wives in public.
Korea is modernizing and becoming global. They are a G-20 nation. Women are moving into fields they otherwise have not been in justl like America and England a few decades ago.
This ajoshi doesn't realize the world has changed culturally and combined with the electronic mediums such as twitter, youtube, etc. and there will be a reckoning for the old school ajoshis . He has to change with it and he found himself as an example to the other ajoshis out there from another era.
The work place is changing for them as well. I did some business english classes at some major companies and the ajoshis who have been there since the '80s said there were only one women's bathroom and that was for the receptionist who served tea and the secretaries and that now over half of the departments are now female and they had to constantly spend money to add women's restrooms to their building. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| He was fired. Although, people who know him say he is not that kind of bloke and at his employee hearing he provided a slightly different version of events, ultimately he had caused too much embarrassment to POSCO and was fired. |
He resigned, which probably saved his pension and benefits. Maybe he had a bad day and is usually a decent guy, but when you're in a position of authority and are representing your company, then you know that you need to keep your cool and be professional with so many eyes on you.
http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2970623
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A Posco Energy executive, who reportedly smacked a Korean Air Lines (KAL) flight attendant with a magazine because he was unhappy with his in-flight ramen, resigned from his position.
The company publicly apologized on Monday and tried to recover its damaged public image.
�The company and the executive are ready to visit the flight attendant and the airline to ask forgiveness,� his company said on its Web site. �We are deeply sorry that the incident happened and will further put our best efforts toward employees� ethics education.�
According to local media reports, the former senior vice president from Posco Energy, identified by his surname Wang, reportedly harassed a female KAL flight attendant while flying to the United States over the weekend.
After the incident was reported online through social networking sites, netizens rushed to criticize the executive and the company, even making fun of the incident by releasing parody photos.
Industry insiders said the incident hurt Posco�s public image. Although the steel maker is a B2B company and the incident is related to an affiliate, its public image has still been tarnished as consumers connect the word �Posco� to the incident.
It not only hurts Posco, but also KAL, as the company is in an awkward position. The nation�s largest carrier said neither the company nor the flight attendant is planning on filing a lawsuit against the executive.
�Honestly, we didn�t know the issue would become this big, but since it isn�t good news, we are not happy to be involved in this incident,� an official from KAL said. �I think many people will now realize that being a flight attendant is a tough job.�
Other companies peripherally related to the incident are also not happy to be mentioned when the issue is discussed in public.
An industry official said that Nongshim, the instant noodle company that the executive started the fight over, is complaining about the use of its product in the online parodies.
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| sirius black wrote: |
The incident is really about social changes in Korea. 10 or 15 years ago, an ajoshi could do that and no one would bat an eye. Korea had a somewhat 'Mad Men'-esque culture not too long ago. Plenty of stories of husbands smacking their wives in public.
Korea is modernizing and becoming global. They are a G-20 nation. Women are moving into fields they otherwise have not been in justl like America and England a few decades ago.
This ajoshi doesn't realize the world has changed culturally and combined with the electronic mediums such as twitter, youtube, etc. and there will be a reckoning for the old school ajoshis . He has to change with it and he found himself as an example to the other ajoshis out there from another era.
The work place is changing for them as well. I did some business english classes at some major companies and the ajoshis who have been there since the '80s said there were only one women's bathroom and that was for the receptionist who served tea and the secretaries and that now over half of the departments are now female and they had to constantly spend money to add women's restrooms to their building. |
Its nice to read your optimism, but I still see the same old ajosshi penguins ruling the roost everywhere by simple right of being born with XY chromosomes. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:28 am Post subject: |
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He'll be hired back as a consultant on a year to year contract in six months.
This man has spent the last 15 years building networks, there are dozens of companies that deal with Posco led by ex-POSCO execs he worked for before that will hire him. Don't think he's sitting around in his apartment losing his sanity over this. The oldboy network hasn't evaporated yet. |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:13 am Post subject: |
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| I wonder what really happened? Anytime there is hint of news of a Korean male behaving badly people on this board start mentioning how terrible Korean men are. I guess it embarrassed Posco enough to be 'asked' to resign. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| The nation�s largest carrier said neither the company nor the flight attendant is planning on filing a lawsuit against the executive. |
Yeppers. I had no doubt about the flight attendant not pursuing a case when her employer declined to do so.
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| �Honestly, we didn�t know the issue would become this big, but since it isn�t good news, we are not happy to be involved in this incident,� an official from KAL said. |
Yeah, right.  Only an utter moron would believe that an in-flight assault on a flight attendant today wouldn't be big news. Wait. The person saying that is a PR flack.
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| �I think many people will now realize that being a flight attendant is a tough job.� |
Yeah, and I bet it's even tougher when the airline employing the flight attendant doesn't do the right thing when the flight attendant is assaulted by a passenger.
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Other companies peripherally related to the incident are also not happy to be mentioned when the issue is discussed in public.
An industry official said that Nongshim, the instant noodle company that the executive started the fight over, is complaining about the use of its product in the online parodies. |
Well, now I have an answer to my question about how they feel about their product being used in the parody. Hey, maybe they should get on board (heh, heh) and change their marketing to something like this:
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GEOM
Joined: 04 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Korean Air is a ModEdit airline. Safety of their employees is in the furthest back of their minds.
There are worse things happening in their airline's cockpit. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
Its nice to read your optimism, but I still see the same old ajosshi penguins ruling the roost everywhere by simple right of being born with XY chromosomes. |
Maybe so, but its not optimism I'm basing this on, its what VPs at major companies who have been working since the mid 80s have told me. Some parents are pinning the hopes on the daughter if she is obviously the smarter, more dilligent child than the son. They see the opportunities for women and are trying to maximize her potential.
The very fact that this guy had to resign is proof positive the times 'they are a changin'. 15 years ago this was a non issue. I bet it was a light slap with the paper as well. Just a guess, an innocuous tap that ajoshis have been doing for decades.
A female President would have been un-heard of as well. Schools not being able to hit kids, etc. Korea is becoming like the west and the west is far more egalitarian with regards to gender and Korea is following suit.
We can debate the speed of their change but its changing and common acts from being a patriarchal society by ajoshis will not be tolerated. And as I said throw in the electronic age and some ajoshi even as much as a light slap on the back of the head to his wife on a bus or train will bring public anger if its caught on video. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Its a prized job as well (airline hostess that is). Its very, very tough to become one. Very rigorous ordeal to become a KAL airline hostess. She isn't going to make any waves and probably wants the incident to die quickly there are hundreds if not thousands of girls willing to take her place. |
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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| could he be a Vice President? I wonder if Korean Air will do anything? One conglomerate to another.. I'm sure they get a lot of business from POSCO... |
No. VP is 전무 or 부사장. This guy's a 상무 so he's at the director level. My company uses the title Executive Director. |
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motiontodismiss
Joined: 18 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:07 am Post subject: |
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If that account is true, he was acting like a douche from the moment he boarded the plane throughout the entire flight. It lists a number of complaints about him. Also, the nuance of the term used in the second article is that he was removed from his position as Director of new energy development or whatever it was, yet still remains employed by the firm. |
Relieved of his post, not fired. He did resign soon after though. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:16 am Post subject: |
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There are worse things happening in their airline's cockpit. |
Do tell! |
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