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[beast]

I've been here for six years and I keep on reading all the complaints about how Koreans are racists and how badly they treat us poor helpless foreigners. Enough already!!! Wake up idiots!!!! The only reason they can get away with it is because we let them. Don't put up with the crap at your job, on the subway, on the street, in your apartment building. If somebody disses you back home, what do you do? Just sit there like a retard with a big stupid grin on your face? No, you'd probably say something back or fight back or do something other than complain about it. So why is it any different here? Don't be so scared, stand up for your rights, don't buy into the Korean myths and drama; be yourself, fight for your right. I get sick and tired of hearing all these whiners complaining about how this guy looked at me wrong and this director didn't pay me and this girl didn't want to dance with me and she go giggly giggly goo goo goo because she no speakee Englishee he he he. The people of this country have huge inferiority complex and don't like foreigners in general, don't take things so seriously, have some fun with these clowns, they think they are the only homogenous society out there. They think no gays live in this country. They think foreigners all have diseases and drugs. They have more prostitution here than anywhere else and they act like it doesn't exist, they have one of the highest rising divorce rates in the world, they stand in line for hours trying to immigrate to other countries. Why the hell do you guys care what these retards think? Stop worrying about them and their ways. They are meaningless and don't worry about them, live your life, enjoy your time here, get a few laughs from them, but don't stress yourselves out so much by these guys, it's not worth the headache, it can be good for a lot of laughs however. Beast

[mb2086]

I think your comments are racist. If you have poor experiences you can hardly address the causes by being just as bloody minded in return. It might make you feel equal or better but it relly does nothing except get you more disliked than you think you are already. There are ways of 'getting back' at people without resorting to comments like 'they have more prostituion here than anywhere else...' or '.do you care what these retards think', or 'these people have a huge inferiority complex.' What ?

[Crois]

No stand up for yourself and fight the system.

Lets start a revolution from our head.

[Yesterday]

Just interested Beast - in knowing why you worked for FREE for 6 years and then only joined this site recently - and have total of 16 posts....................................

You also seem to like calling (Not only Koreans silly) but also westerners.....

You seem to say a lot about standing up for your rights - (which is a good thing) how about your rights for getting your last 6 years salary?

beast

Replies: 7
Views: 185
Forum: Job-related Discussion Forum Posted: Thu May 06, 2004 8:30 pm Subject: sloppy recruiters
Recruiters are snakes. You have to be the mongoose. Play them like they play you. Remember also, your resume doesn't count for anything, nor do reference letters or your degree. All that matters is yo ...
Topic: Best man at wedding
beast

Replies: 2
Views: 134
Forum: Question and Answer Forum Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:48 pm Subject: Best man at wedding
Take him to 588 or Miari.
Topic: Theater of the Absurd
beast

Replies: 7
Views: 241
Forum: General Discussion Forum Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:32 pm Subject: Theater of the Absurd
Everybody feels like you do sometimes. It's tough to come to terms with because we try to rationalize their behavior, but we can't because we don't think like they do. The best thing to turn your neg ...
Topic: Are serious threats from owners via. the Mafia on the rise?
beast

Replies: 3
Views: 275
Forum: Job-related Discussion Forum Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:45 pm Subject: Are serious threats from owners via. the Mafia on the rise?
About two years ago four of us were in a room salon in a smaller town down south. The Korean guy who took us there (an adult student) passed out on the table after three bottles of whiskey so the atte ...
Topic: Depression and suicide
beast

Replies: 38
Views: 1884
Forum: General Discussion Forum Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 3:36 pm Subject: Depression and suicide
Hey Dude,
Everyone of us gets depressed here. What you really need to do bro', is laugh. I mean laugh a lot. Go out and get real silly. Just be a kid for a while. You know when I feel depressed and ...
Topic: What's our permanent residency address?
beast

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Views: 95
Forum: Question and Answer Forum Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 7:55 pm Subject: What's our permanent residency address?
Okay, so what do you write down on the customs form when you fly back home? Your citizenship obviously hasn't changed but what about residency? Where it asks, permanent residency address or whatever. ...
Topic: Casinos
beast

Replies: 26
Views: 512
Forum: Question and Answer Forum Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 2:58 am Subject: casinos
I got so fed up too with blowing money in the casinos here. So I tried online sports wagering. Much better results. Give it a shot.


Hey Sillyboy,
I did a ton of research on the subject. Setting up an account can be quite a process however. Setting up an offshore corporation can be costly and also most places require notarized ba ...
Topic: IS KOREA REALLY A GOOD PLACE TO RETIRE ?!?
beast

Replies: 6
Views: 274
Forum: General Discussion Forum Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 4:27 am Subject: plan to retire in korea
I'll be here forever. I used to think that I'll just do one more year and that'll be it, but I always find myself back here for one reason or another. After your fourth or fifth year you stop making e ...
Topic: who is content with this life as an ESL teacher?
beast

Replies: 66
Views: 1634
Forum: Question and Answer Forum Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 12:08 am Subject: who is content with life as an ESL teacher?
Wow! You guys make 3 million a month? I've been doing this for free for the last six years and I'm loving it, but getting paid sounds even better. Then I'd be able to buy my own smokes instead of scor ...
Topic: Gyms in Seoul
beast

Replies: 14
Views: 408
Forum: General Discussion Forum Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 7:18 pm Subject: gyms in Seoul
Sparkx, Regarding the creatine first. The best way to maximize the effect of creatine is to take it with 100% pure grapejuice. This may sound strange but the sugars and chemical makeup of grapejuice a ...
Topic: Gyms in Seoul
beast

Replies: 14
Views: 408
Forum: General Discussion Forum Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 6:14 pm Subject: gyms in Seoul
Sparkx, thanks for the info. See I don't live in Seoul, I'm in a small town and down here none of the gyms have anything. So when I came up to do my yearly supplement run I never thought of going to a ...
Topic: Gyms in Seoul
beast

Replies: 14
Views: 408
Forum: General Discussion Forum Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:12 pm Subject: Gyms in Seoul
Some of you were asking about where to obtain supplements. I searched far and wide for Creatine and Glutamine and let me tell you there is only one place where I found the stuff. It is in a tiny littl ...

[beast]

Yesterday,

That was quite a stroll down memory lane. I hadn't realized I'd posted that many times. Well as you may have guessed by now, the Beast enjoys his soju and sometimes has been known to tell a tall tale or two. Six years without pay, wow! How did the Beast ever manage to survive? Anyways, I do stand by what I wrote in this column however, far too many whiners around and in most cases they create their own misery. As to being called a racist, well yes you are probably right. I think everyone is to some degree. Koreans are very racist. Would it be acceptable in your country to not allow foreigners into certain establishments? I guess when you are predjudiced against like that for a number of years, some of it wears off on you.

[chronicpride]

[Yesterday]

Actually - before i reply to anyones message or thread - i usually check out the person "past and previous" messages first - to decide if what I wish to say is appropriate to that person or not" or whether I should or should not reply - or if I should take a more kinder approach -


Actually I agreed with most of the things BEAST wrote - however I had already checked out his/her history and was really curious about a couple of things such as the 6-year-history with no pay - the "only-16 posts" etc - and I was happy when Beast replied and told me - he probably spends most of his time drinking soju - a good past-time - I do the same however I drink "Sansachin" a little more expensive - and I have also been here 4 years - but only joined this site earlier this year..... (I had also contemplated whether he was very altruistic and had been volunteer-teaching for the last 6-years - of which he would have earnt my respect....

So chronicpride don't mistake me - but Beast seems to have already answered my reply - of which he/she gave a logical answer, and doesn't really need another "big-brother" to come along answer my query and wipe-his/her-butt for him/her.......

[peemil]

I like this guy.

[yangban]

This guy really went off!

[mb2086]

Quote:
'Obviously, something or someone made this guy go off. But he has a point. The stuff can get to you. People can say all the nice things about Koreans that they want, but about half the Koreans on the street either stare, make some comment, or glare, or whatever. They shouldn't kiss ass, but they should treat foreigners better than they do. We do contribute positively, don't we? Otherwise, Korea will pay when foreigners stop coming here. And they already are.[/quote]


Maybe I've not been here that long but I've not encountered that many Koreans staring at me or laughing at me wherever I am. Most Koreans I've met so far have been very helpful and smiling and have more patience than most. As one of a tiny minority of westerners who is bound to encounter the novelty factor I expect the ocassional glare or even remark but I think many claims here are totaly exagerated and that it is you who have the inferiority complex. Hogwan owners may be a breed of their own, but there is little point in descending to racist remarks and then defending those remarks by saying they're justified because Koreans are racist. It is right of course to defend yourself fully or comment back if someone mistreats you but to pretend this is some kind of unique place where only foreigners get mistreated and are easy targets is total delusion. I've never yet seen a bar where foreigners are not allowed either. I would suggest that the beast has underlying reasons for his comments and maybe he should confront those instead of shouting his head off.

[beast]

Okay guys,

I read all your comments and everyone has their own take. Actually, nothing made me "go off" it was just that I was reading all the postings and the vast majority are from people complaining about this or that. The thing is you can't expect to change a two thousand or three thousand year old culture and way of thinking so you might as well go with the flow and get a few laughs out of it instead of fighting it.

I find that laughter is the best medicine and I laugh all the time at their little predjudices and idiosyncrasies. That is what makes the experience so fun here. It's different. If it wasn't so different it wouldn't be half as fun to be here. My point was simply, don't complain how they are, just accept it and find some humor in the situation. Also, don't be a pushover and let them have their way with you.

As far as being a racist, well I got told off here that harboring racist views simply because I've been predjudiced against is wrong and doesn't make me a better person. Yes, that's what my mother always taught me too. And she and all of you have a point. Saying that they have a ton of prostitution here or that they won't let foreigners into certain places isn't really racist in my opinion. It's just stating the obvious. Some fellow wrote that he's never seen a place here that won't allow foreigners in.....well that's a whole new category, there are many such places here. It goes both ways however, some places won't allow Korean men in either.

The whole point I was trying to make was that if you live here, you have to find a way to cope with the absurdities that go on everyday here. Instead of getting mad and complaining or whining about it, find some fun in it. It makes life a whole lot easier here when you can laugh at things instead of cry about them. That's all guys.

[yangban]

[mb2086]

It seems the rural areas may be a-lot different. I think you are courageous going into banks and the like when you can't speak the lingo fully. So far in Seoul I have not had any of the problems you speak of and I always avoid going places where fluent Korean is expected. I reckon I'd need someone with me who speaks Korean. Fortunately my body language is pretty good and they and I can grasp what we both mean when in shops and restaurants. I sympathise with you and it's not nice when people do that sort of thing but maybe you shouldn't try as hard. If you make it obvious you are just a dumb foreigner who can't speak Korean you might get people actually helping you instead of pointing the finger. I know it sounds harsh but it's kinda strange how the human mind works.