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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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 Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 5:48 am Post subject: Identifying Narcissistic Personalities |
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Apparently 6% of Americans have this. I wonder what the levels are in Korea?
Certainly some of my students seem to have this, and several adults that I have known.
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Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
The DSM-IV identifies the following symptoms:
�An exaggerated sense of one's own abilities and achievements.
�A constant need for attention, affirmation and praise.
�A belief that he or she is unique or "special" and should only associate with other people of the same status.
�Persistent fantasies about attaining success and power.
�Exploiting other people for personal gain.
�A sense of entitlement and expectation of special treatment.
�A preoccupation with power or success.
�Feeling envious of others, or believing that others are envious of him or her.
�A lack of empathy for others.
People with narcissistic personality disorder are typically described as arrogant, conceited, self-centered and haughty. Because they imagine themselves as superior to others, they often insist on possessing items that reflect a successful lifestyle. Despite this exaggerated self-image, they are reliant on constant praise and attention to reinforce their self-esteem. As a result, those with narcissistic personality disorder are usually very sensitive to criticism, which is often viewed as a personal attack.
Causes of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
While the exact cause is unknown, researchers have identified some factors that may contribute to the disorder. Childhood experiences such as parental overindulgence, excessive praise, unreliable parenting are thought to contribute to narcissistic personality disorder.
http://psychology.about.com/od/personalitydisorders/a/narcissisticpd.htm |
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sluggo832004
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 6:35 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like every other Korean girl Ive met. 
and 90 % of Western women.  |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:56 am Post subject: |
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I've met a few of the -cough, cough- western"Professors" who were like that.
They were totally fracked in the head because they genuinely wanted to believe they were #1, but then everyday they had to confront the sad reality that, in Korea, they're nobodies and often viewed as failures back home (which many of them were). |
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Probably much higher than 6%, they just don't want to admit it.  |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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How my university students stack up (at least from my interaction with them:)
Definitely not:
�An exaggerated sense of one's own abilities and achievements.
�A constant need for attention, affirmation and praise.
At least in English class, this is totally the opposite to my experience. They tend to underrate their English and certainly don't like the spotlight being on them in that regard,
�A preoccupation with power or success.
�Persistent fantasies about attaining success and power.
For many of them, getting into the uni is the success - many of them have no damn idea what they are going to do next.
�A lack of empathy for others.
They certainly care about each other within their major, and from their writing a lot of them are quite idealistic and empathetic.
Unsure or occasionally:
�A belief that he or she is unique or "special" and should only associate with other people of the same status.
Possibly in relation to the university's name.
�Exploiting other people for personal gain.
I don't have enough experience with them outside of the classroom to make any judgement on this.
�Feeling envious of others, or believing that others are envious of him or her.
Certainly they envy others (especially campus couples), but I don't see much evidence of the reverse.
Definitely:
�A sense of entitlement and expectation of special treatment.
Almost always to do with grading. Many assume that attendance policies, relative grading etc doesn't apply to them if they don't get the grade they expected. Also, many still harbor the delusion that simply sitting in a seat in a classroom is worthy of a high grade. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| optik404 wrote: |
| Probably much higher than 6%, they just don't want to admit it. |
6% have at least five of the listed traits in levels enough to cause lasting harm to themselves and those they come into contact with.
Many people possess at least some of those traits however or at low levels.
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| How my university students stack up |
Perhaps its more the older generation. I think a lot of the older Korean men were too pampered. Over-indulged and raised to believe they were more important than they actually are.
The lack of parental discipline and the way children effectively control their parents by screaming or whining also sets up a narcissist complex. Because the individual is taught that others are there to serve them, and that others are responsible for what happens to them.
There seems to be little to no separation-individuation process by which infants are taught independence and thus accountability. Rather they are taught dependence in a communal world with few interpersonal boundaries. Thus everyone has a right to be in everyone elses business.
In addition, people have children to serve their own ends. Children are viewed as a way to gain status and approval, an extension of ones own ego.
I'd be interested to see what Harpeau has to say about this. |
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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre
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| Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Identifying Narcissistic Personalities |
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| Julius wrote: |
Apparently 6% of Americans have this. I wonder what the levels are in Korea?
Certainly some of my students seem to have this, and several adults that I have known.
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Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
The DSM-IV identifies the following symptoms:
�An exaggerated sense of one's own abilities and achievements.
�A constant need for attention, affirmation and praise.
�A belief that he or she is unique or "special" and should only associate with other people of the same status.
�Persistent fantasies about attaining success and power.
�Exploiting other people for personal gain.
�A sense of entitlement and expectation of special treatment.
�A preoccupation with power or success.
�Feeling envious of others, or believing that others are envious of him or her.
�A lack of empathy for others.
People with narcissistic personality disorder are typically described as arrogant, conceited, self-centered and haughty. Because they imagine themselves as superior to others, they often insist on possessing items that reflect a successful lifestyle. Despite this exaggerated self-image, they are reliant on constant praise and attention to reinforce their self-esteem. As a result, those with narcissistic personality disorder are usually very sensitive to criticism, which is often viewed as a personal attack.
Causes of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
While the exact cause is unknown, researchers have identified some factors that may contribute to the disorder. Childhood experiences such as parental overindulgence, excessive praise, unreliable parenting are thought to contribute to narcissistic personality disorder.
http://psychology.about.com/od/personalitydisorders/a/narcissisticpd.htm |
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im just wondering when you made this diagnosis, did you have any trouble diferentiatiing it from bi-polar with traits of cognative effective personality disorder or borderline personality disorder? |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:36 am Post subject: |
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The character Alan (played by Zack Galifianakis) in the Hangover series fits this to a tee. There are certain elements that Koreans have, but the culture is quite different and there are some twists.
An interesting discussion. |
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Nolos
Joined: 23 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| sounds like lebron james |
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tran.huongthu
Joined: 23 May 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| Nolos wrote: |
| sounds like lebron james |
and you sound like a hater |
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numb
Joined: 05 Jul 2013
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| 100% korean woman, omg they get me sick, how they act, its too much I think they watch too much dramas, and stupid silly sicoms, and delusions of grandure of how men should be. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| tran.huongthu wrote: |
| Nolos wrote: |
| sounds like lebron james |
and you sound like a hater |
Don't be drinking the HATE-orade.  |
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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know about "Koreans", but reading that list, the items below struck me as "Wow, that's Korea" (as a country, not the individuals). And I've removed the "taking advantage of others" and "lack of empathy"
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�An exaggerated sense of one's own abilities and achievements.
�A constant need for attention, affirmation and praise.
�A belief that he or she is unique or "special" and should only associate with other people of the same status.
�Persistent fantasies about attaining success and power.
�A sense of entitlement and expectation of special treatment.
�A preoccupation with power or success.
�Feeling envious of others, or believing that others are envious of him or her.
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