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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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First of all, how about dropping the claim that I made that claim. |
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| It's great that you have the opposite view of most everyone else out there regarding Koreans and racism, maybe we've all been just been very unlucky and just simply met all the bad ones, and our huge informal, cross referenced random sample is vastly inaccurate and our impressions are 180 degrees backwards from reality, and where there is smoke there really ISN'T fire. Yeah, that's it. |
So if you aren't claiming you speak for "most everyone else" then why are you claiming that my views are the opposite to them?
Dude it's right there in black and white what you said. I bolded the relevant parts to aid your reading comprehension.
And not content with that you've now doubled down and done it again.
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| And do you really think he or anyone else cares much if you take their opinions seriously or not? You are overestimating your importance here. Nobody is seeking your approval. |
And as to that both you and he obviously DO care enough to reply (you constantly).
As for backtracking no. I'm simply showing how OFE's argument can be easily turned around.
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| I'm guessing the answers are YES, RARELY, and NOT MUCH. |
Actually the answers are YES, OFTEN and (very likely) MORE THAN YOU
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hiamnotcool
Joined: 06 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="spilot101"][quote="hiamnotcool"]
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If foreign aid is the measure than the USA would probably be the least racist country in the world, and that is laughable. |
Not quite, it's not the total amount that really counts, but rather the amount per GDP. In this case, the US is at the bottom of the barrel.... |
Can you show a study to show that? I'm not sure what qualifies as bottom of the barrel here, but I'm open to that possibility. I still think it's irrelevant to how racist a country is anyway.
When Japan colonized Korea how much "foreign aid" did it provide, how much money did it invest in the country? Was that a sign that Japan wasn't racist? lol |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="hiamnotcool"][quote="spilot101"]
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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If foreign aid is the measure than the USA would probably be the least racist country in the world, and that is laughable. |
Not quite, it's not the total amount that really counts, but rather the amount per GDP. In this case, the US is at the bottom of the barrel.... |
Can you show a study to show that? I'm not sure what qualifies as bottom of the barrel here, but I'm open to that possibility. I still think it's irrelevant to how racist a country is anyway.
When Japan colonized Korea how much "foreign aid" did it provide, how much money did it invest in the country? Was that a sign that Japan wasn't racist? lol |
When Japan colonized Korea Korea became a part of the Empire. Therefore investing money in the country was to benefit the Empire...the local population was very much a secondary concern.
And investment is different from donations. As regards the former people generally expect a return that will eventually be greater than the initial investment. As for donations people generally don't expect much if anything in return.
But again how does providing millions in aid prove Koreans are racist against Japan? Shouldn't they be dancing in the streets and burning Japanese flags when that happened? |
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cabeza
Joined: 29 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Well I don't think racism is the right word anyway, considering they are exactly the same race.
Poles don't like Russians (For many of the same reasons Koreans don't like the Japanese), but we don't call that racism. We call it not liking each other. |
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hiamnotcool
Joined: 06 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| cabeza wrote: |
Well I don't think racism is the right word anyway, considering they are exactly the same race.
Poles don't like Russians (For many of the same reasons Koreans don't like the Japanese), but we don't call that racism. We call it not liking each other. |
Well like I said before, if you are going to put it like that then you might as well say all humans are the same race. |
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hiamnotcool
Joined: 06 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="TheUrbanMyth"][quote="hiamnotcool"]
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| hiamnotcool wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
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If foreign aid is the measure than the USA would probably be the least racist country in the world, and that is laughable. |
Not quite, it's not the total amount that really counts, but rather the amount per GDP. In this case, the US is at the bottom of the barrel.... |
Can you show a study to show that? I'm not sure what qualifies as bottom of the barrel here, but I'm open to that possibility. I still think it's irrelevant to how racist a country is anyway.
When Japan colonized Korea how much "foreign aid" did it provide, how much money did it invest in the country? Was that a sign that Japan wasn't racist? lol |
When Japan colonized Korea Korea became a part of the Empire. Therefore investing money in the country was to benefit the Empire...the local population was very much a secondary concern.
And investment is different from donations. As regards the former people generally expect a return that will eventually be greater than the initial investment. As for donations people generally don't expect much if anything in return.
But again how does providing millions in aid prove Koreans are racist against Japan? Shouldn't they be dancing in the streets and burning Japanese flags when that happened? |
"People generally don't expect much in return", ok so go through all the money that has been donated by all the countries and let me know whether it was an investment or a donation based on that criteria. Alterior motives are not unheard of when it comes to donations. The Japanese Colonialism example was an extreme and ridiculous example, and that's why I used it. |
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cabeza
Joined: 29 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Well i don't want to get into the meta argument of race being a social construct. But, even if you want to divide asians up into sub races, which is fine, Koreans and Japanese are the same race. How are they any different? Thet are both in North east asia. They have a history of cultural and biological exchange. They are pretty close. |
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hiamnotcool
Joined: 06 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| cabeza wrote: |
| Well i don't want to get into the meta argument of race being a social construct. But, even if you want to divide asians up into sub races, which is fine, Koreans and Japanese are the same race. How are they any different? Thet are both in North east asia. They have a history of cultural and biological exchange. They are pretty close. |
If you don't want to have that argument then why did you bring it up? |
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Old fat expat
Joined: 19 Sep 2005
Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie
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| Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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The Myth:
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| I'm simply showing how OFE's argument can be easily turned around. |
Hmm, my argument was against the canard of having to know a majority of a population before you can make a statement about that population. Please tell me how you have turned that argument around.
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| Anyway since we both now agree that everyone is within their rights to express an opinion on what they've personally observe...it must therefore be MY right to express MY opinion on the posts on this forum that I've personally observed. |
Well of course! Dah. But it is one data point that can be counted once. You keep posting over and over and over the same thing. And by shouting down other posters with a | | |
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