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Korean Lonely Planet to be fixed
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The King of Kwangju



Joined: 10 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 9:23 am    Post subject: Korean Lonely Planet to be fixed Reply with quote

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rudyflyer



Joined: 26 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted a thread about this, the new edition has so many errors its not funny.

KOK you too would find it funny they again had the World Cup Stadium where the baseball stadium is and not where it really is about 5KM away
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rule no. 1: if you're going to write an article about the mistakes in a publication, you better be sure there are none in your own.

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��One of the most famous foods using Kimchi is Bibimbab��... this is included in the Korea edition of the word famous guidebook ��Lonely Planet," which is often called the "Traveler's Bible."


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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
doenjang stew is similar to Japan's miso."


This is incorrect?

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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Negative descriptions such as ��Korean doctors get angry when they are asked questions during medical examinations,�� are expressed in the book,


I have no problem with changing the publication if it isn't correct, but white wasing like above is plain wrong. The quote above is true a lot of the time. All the tme? NO. But for some it is true.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lonely planet for Korea is crap anyway.

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Lee Sang-ki of the KNTO said, ��We expect foreigners to be able to travel around Korea with a better impression.��

How many people come here as tourists????
Its not the book that will influence what impression people have, it will be the Koreans. KNTO, you do a good job but get it right. You are just as errornous as Lonely Planet.
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Dr. Buck



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The KNTO is a propaganda organization that fervently tries to dispell any bad or negative images of Korea. All countries want their images for tourism to look good, but some of the promotions are so whitewashed they are borderline lies.

Check out some of the tourist literature out there--the free maps and brochures--and you'll come across all kinds of superimposed images--some are weird--like this mob of Caucasian foriegners superimposed in front of the Chungcheongbukdo airport---a cheap, desperate bid to make themselves look like a cosmopolitan province.

Or Namhae Island's brochure: they have a photograph of a beach, (and I've been to every beach on the island multiple times) and the water in the photo is tropical water--crystal clear and perfect, a nice long saltwater flat of perfect beach sand. In reality, most beachs on the south coast have murky turquoise water and the beachs are covered with garbage thrown overboard by Korean fishermen.

The Lonely Planet writer was hand fed info by the KNTO--check out an old Herald article about it. So if you're looking for an objective view on Korea, don't buy the book.
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kangnamdragon



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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
Quote:
doenjang stew is similar to Japan's miso."


This is incorrect?

Sparkles*_*


The implication is that Korean food is copied from Japanese food.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair to the KNTO, you wouldn't paint a negative picture about your own country, you would give a positive one which is what they do.

I still think it is just as hopeless as Lonely Planet though.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kangnamdragon wrote:
Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
Quote:
doenjang stew is similar to Japan's miso."


This is incorrect?

Sparkles*_*


The implication is that Korean food is copied from Japanese food.


I once read an article that claimed the spiciness in Korean food was due to the Japanese importing red peppers (which, I think, the article said were introduced to Japan via Portugal, or maybe Peru) here during the occupation.

Tell a Korean that the Japanese are partly responsible for the advent of their national food, kimchi, and I'm pretty sure you'll get a response not unlike how I must have looked yesterday, when Wifey decided to pay me back for my cruel-as-hell April Fool's gag from last month by telling me that -- and maybe you want to sit down right now, Sparkles -- baby numero dos is si, I took the test today, and those things hardly ever lie.

That, I'm almost sure, is the look you'll get.

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JacktheCat



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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sparkles*_*
Quote:

I once read an article that claimed the spiciness in Korean food was due to the Japanese importing red peppers (which, I think, the article said were introduced to Japan via Portugal, or maybe Peru) here during the occupation.
Sparkles*_*


The ubiquitous red peppar was indeed imported by the Japanese (which they got from the Portugese). But during the Imjin War around 1592 or so.

Take away the hot spiciness and Korean food is most similar to Mongolian food. Lots of garlic and watery dishes and lots of garlic.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boiled potatoes is similar to boiled sprats. Do you see the Irish and the Scottish up in arms about this? What are they supposed to say? Korean food is unlike anything you have ever had in your life? Get ready to be gastronomically transformed?
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There should be no problem with using the word 'similar', it's a reference to a more well-known food and nothing more. If they are going to claim influences than it has to be backed up though.
Estonian vorst is similar to German sausage...would this be bad for Estonia's reputation?
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chinook



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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's not like this only happens in Korea either. Every time the Lonely Planet for Scotland was reprinted, there would be a huge article about how they said nasty, untrue things about the country. You'd get the mayor of some horrible little town saying they were annoyed that Lonely Planet suggested that there was nothing good about the town. Ignoring the fact that there really was no good reason for a tourist to visit. The key point there being that it is different being a tourist in a country than living there. And it is the job of Lonely Planet to tell you what places are like from a tourist viewpoint.

the other thing i noticed was that they made it sound like the reprint was done at their special request. it was just a stand reprint of a newer addition.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JacktheCat wrote:
Sparkles*_*
Quote:

I once read an article that claimed the spiciness in Korean food was due to the Japanese importing red peppers (which, I think, the article said were introduced to Japan via Portugal, or maybe Peru) here during the occupation.
Sparkles*_*


The ubiquitous red peppar was indeed imported by the Japanese (which they got from the Portugese). But during the Imjin War around 1592 or so.


Of course. I should have realized that kimchi has been around a lot longer than the Japanese occupation.

I am now slapping my forehead in embarrassment.

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