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jaderedux
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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| the saint wrote: |
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| Treat people like I want to be treated. I, of course, think I am right....as is my nature..... |
Perhaps you should consider everyone else's opinion on this thread as right then.
Sorry if my sarcasm offends but I was presuming, based on your maxim, that you like people being sarcastic to you.
For someone who purports to be nice to people, you sure are giving people here a hard time. Perhaps you should simply settle for small talk.  |
Well I do consider their opinions...the nature of opinions is that one you might profess is the one you think is correct. The comment was made a little tounge in cheek but if it was misunderstood...well stuff happens.
Now, finally I honestly don't understand why smiling or nodding or acknowledging someone's existence is such a chore. I mean anyone! Not just expats. Yeah sometimes I don't want to talk and if it is an expat I might say man I am fried hope you don't mind if I just sit here. Then I might pull out a book or something. But there is no reason why in God's green earth a person can't smile, nod or something.
I guess Peppermint is right ..... alot just depends on where you are from. Eye contact, being nice, small talk is considered polite. I just figure in the realm of things maybe in some puny way I made the world a nicer place. Maybe not but that is my delusion and I am sticking to it.
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little mixed girl
Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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hmmm...last summer ppl said that foreigners don't acknowledge each other ENOUGH and now ppl say they do it too much?? @.@
anyways, there was one time last summer i was sitting next to a white dude on the subway. i thought i shuold say something (remembering the 'foreigners are hoes & don't talk to each other thread), but he got on his cell...then he left and i was like whatever 
the only foreigner who tried to make convo with me on the subway was a nepali dude who thought that i was also from nepal  |
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Zed
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| little mixed girl wrote: |
| hmmm...last summer ppl said that foreigners don't acknowledge each other ENOUGH and now ppl say they do it too much?? @.@ |
Yesterday this foreigner got on the subway and didn't say hello so I got pissed about it. (and came to complain on Dave's)
Today this foreigner got on the subway and said hello so I got pissed about it. (and came to complain on Dave's)
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| jaderedux wrote: |
[. But there is no reason why in God's green earth a person can't smile, nod or something.
Jade |
Okay valid point. But according to that logic, there is also no reason a person SHOULD smile, nod or something (unless of course you know the person). Why do we have to acknowledge other foreigners here and not Koreans? Simply because we have white skin and speak English is simply not good enough. Do you smile or nod or something at EVERYONE? If not why not. If at foreigners why not at Koreans? If at Koreans why not foreigners? If indeed you do smile or nod at everyone, then good on you. You're sticking to your principles and practise what you preach. |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Okay valid point. But according to that logic, there is also no reason a person SHOULD smile, nod or something (unless of course you know the person). Why do we have to acknowledge other foreigners here and not Koreans? Simply because we have white skin and speak English is simply not good enough. Do you smile or nod or something at EVERYONE? If not why not. If at foreigners why not at Koreans? If at Koreans why not foreigners? If indeed you do smile or nod at everyone, then good on you. You're sticking to your principles and practise what you preach. |
I smile and nod at people whether they are korean or not. Sometimes small talk might be with a korean. AS for white people, I live in a small town and if I see a waygookin I don't know then it's like who are you? |
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Toby
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| Zed wrote: |
| little mixed girl wrote: |
| hmmm...last summer ppl said that foreigners don't acknowledge each other ENOUGH and now ppl say they do it too much?? @.@ |
Yesterday this foreigner got on the subway and didn't say hello so I got pissed about it. (and came to complain on Dave's)
Today this foreigner got on the subway and said hello so I got pissed about it. (and came to complain on Dave's)
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So another normal day in Korea then? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:34 am Post subject: |
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Okay valid point. But according to that logic, there is also no reason a person SHOULD smile, nod or something (unless of course you know the person). Why do we have to acknowledge other foreigners here and not Koreans? Simply because we have white skin and speak English is simply not good enough. Do you smile or nod or something at EVERYONE? If not why not. If at foreigners why not at Koreans? If at Koreans why not foreigners? If indeed you do smile or nod at everyone, then good on you. You're sticking to your principles and practise what you preach. |
I smile and nod at people whether they are korean or not. Sometimes small talk might be with a korean. AS for white people, I live in a small town and if I see a waygookin I don't know then it's like who are you? |
At everyone though? That's the question, and if not why not. Why smile and nod at random people? |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| jaderedux wrote: |
[. But there is no reason why in God's green earth a person can't smile, nod or something.
Jade |
Okay valid point. But according to that logic, there is also no reason a person SHOULD smile, nod or something (unless of course you know the person). Why do we have to acknowledge other foreigners here and not Koreans? Simply because we have white skin and speak English is simply not good enough. Do you smile or nod or something at EVERYONE? If not why not. If at foreigners why not at Koreans? If at Koreans why not foreigners? If indeed you do smile or nod at everyone, then good on you. You're sticking to your principles and practise what you preach. |
If you were an electric-toaster salesman in a (fill-in-the-blank) country, were diversity is the exception and not the rule, there to attend the electric toaster salesman's convention, and, after a day of hard business you thought, hey, let's take a little jaunt around this quirky place that I've only been in for a few days, and you saw another person who looked like you did, walking down the street the same way you were, only in the opposite direction, and not another person was around, wouldn't you at least nod in recognition if you didn't say 'hi, howareya?', or 'heyhowsitgoin?'.
I can understand not running crazily around Jongno, shaking hands with every bloody waygook there; but ignoring a person you share a similar situational bond with if you're both passing in an uncrowded area: that's just bad manners.
Sparkles*_* |
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jurassic5
Joined: 02 Apr 2003
Location: PA
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 5:27 am Post subject: |
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but ignoring a person you share a similar situational bond with if you're both passing in an uncrowded area: that's just bad manners.
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i understand what you're saying...but if in the States, i see another korean-american...does this mean i should say "hi" or "nod"? |
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jaderedux
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Okay valid point. But according to that logic, there is also no reason a person SHOULD smile, nod or something (unless of course you know the person). Why do we have to acknowledge other foreigners here and not Koreans? Simply because we have white skin and speak English is simply not good enough.
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| Do you smile or nod or something at EVERYONE? If not why not. If at foreigners why not at Koreans? |
If at Koreans why not foreigners? If indeed you do smile or nod at everyone, then good on you. You're sticking to your principles and practise what you preach. |
Jade heaves very heavy sigh!!!!!
I will try to explain my very complicated point of view.......If a foreigner or Korean...or guy from Mars makes eye contract and acknowledges my existence. I don't think it is any big deal to give some one a reciprocal smile or nod in fact in my bizarro world it is actually considered polite.
I DO NOT WALK UP TO THEM AND SLAP THEM ON THE BACK WITH A "hEY MAN HOW THE HELL ARE YA???? HOW'S TRICKS??? HOW BOUT THEM DODGERS.
I met my current boyfriend on the subway. Through....*insert gasp*....small talk. I met alot of nice people simply by being friendly and open. I DO NOT BOTHER PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO BE BOTHERED! But if someone takes the time to smile nod or say hello then I can do the same.
AGAIN AND FOLLOW ME HERE....I do ACKNOWLEDGE people when they take the trouble to acknowledge me....If someone is in a solitary reveirie I don't grab them by the shoulders and shake them.....and insist on conversation.
Man alive who would have ever thought soemthing so simple could be so threatening and bring about such scorn and derision????
Jade the serial smiler |
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katydid
Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Here kitty kitty kitty...
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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I can't help but acknowledge other foreigners I see on the subway or on the street. If we make eye contact, then I feel I should. Sure some may be ehm, dancers or factory workers or researcxh scientists at some tech college, but aren't we all so far away from our homes? Isn't a little human interaction nice once in awhile?
No, I don't do it because hey he's white and I'm white (or he's a he and I am a she)
And no, jurassic5, I suppose if you saw a Korean-American back home, you aren't obligated to smile at him because you are both Korean-American. But how much does a smile hurt, really?
Having said that, a friend of mine got on the subway yesterday, and there was a foreign male sitting way *across from* her, and a Korean stopped her and asked if she was married to the guy, after he asked the guy and he said no. That's just odd... |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Just to add that if a girl said "Hi" to me on the subway I would naturally assume she fancied me. |
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katydid
Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Here kitty kitty kitty...
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Not necessarily...I mean maybe, but if you were reading a book I was interested in, I might say hi to start talking about the book. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| jurassic5 wrote: |
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but ignoring a person you share a similar situational bond with if you're both passing in an uncrowded area: that's just bad manners.
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i understand what you're saying...but if in the States, i see another korean-american...does this mean i should say "hi" or "nod"? |
Well, you're both American in that case, and not foreigners. The only time I ever said 'hi' or nodded to other Canadians while in Canada was if I was walking in the woods and came across someone, or when I was in Nova Scotia, because people are just really darn nice there.
I just find it very weird (not to mention rude) that someone wouldn't nod or say 'hi' if they came across another foreigner in an uncrowded area.
And it's not even that I like doing so; to me it's a manners issue, like asking someone if they'd like something to drink if they're visiting.
PS - I don't nod or say 'hi' to women I think might be Russian hookers, or to scruffy looking miscreants -- because I'm a classist b*stard.
Sparkles*_* |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to start reading more books on the subway, and see if I can get a few 'Hi's from girls. 
When I lived in slightly quieter (at least waegook-wise) area I did used to say 'hi' to foreigners on the street, or smile at them anyway. |
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