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Lazio
Joined: 15 Dec 2010
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New air conditioners are very energy efficient.
In our house, we have one of the big self-standing ones in the living room and a smaller wallmounted one in our bedroom. The larger of the two is on for around 14 hours a day and the one in the bedroom about 12.
The total difference in our electric bill since we started using the air conditioners? A massive 10,000 won a month. |
That's because the total consumption is split between all the apartments in the building. Otherwise it can’t happen with that amount of usage, no matter how energy efficient the unit is. |
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maximmm
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| Lazio wrote: |
| Beeyee wrote: |
New air conditioners are very energy efficient.
In our house, we have one of the big self-standing ones in the living room and a smaller wallmounted one in our bedroom. The larger of the two is on for around 14 hours a day and the one in the bedroom about 12.
The total difference in our electric bill since we started using the air conditioners? A massive 10,000 won a month. |
That's because the total consumption is split between all the apartments in the building. Otherwise it can’t happen with that amount of usage, no matter how energy efficient the unit is. |
That's correct. The officetel I lived in charged 250K Won during summer for utilities even when I was away for a month, with all my appliances turned off.
They take into consideration the size of the officetel and divide electrical bills in proportion to the room apartment/room sizes.
As I understand it, apartment buildings don't operate this way, but most officetels are a different story. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:02 am Post subject: |
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I like a bit of AC in the classroom because fans are noisy & disruptive.
At home, I prefer a fan. I own an AC but I didnt bother having it installed in my current home. I find it addictive & unnatural.
But Sokcho usually stays a bit cooler than Seoul & inland anyway. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| Anyone bought a used A/C? How was it like? |
Have had several, both new and used.
LG is the best maker. Carrier is also very good.
Used can save you some money, if you know what you're doing. Especially if you're buying from an expat who has to dump theirs in wintertime. Otherwise, buy new off of Enuri.com and you can often find really good deals. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Beeyee wrote: |
New air conditioners are very energy efficient.
In our house, we have one of the big self-standing ones in the living room and a smaller wallmounted one in our bedroom. The larger of the two is on for around 14 hours a day and the one in the bedroom about 12.
The total difference in our electric bill since we started using the air conditioners? A massive 10,000 won a month. |
Same here, except that we only need to turn on our A/C units for about an hour or two a day since our home is well insulated. |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:34 am Post subject: |
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| Lazio wrote: |
| Beeyee wrote: |
New air conditioners are very energy efficient.
In our house, we have one of the big self-standing ones in the living room and a smaller wallmounted one in our bedroom. The larger of the two is on for around 14 hours a day and the one in the bedroom about 12.
The total difference in our electric bill since we started using the air conditioners? A massive 10,000 won a month. |
That's because the total consumption is split between all the apartments in the building. Otherwise it can’t happen with that amount of usage, no matter how energy efficient the unit is. |
Nope, you are wrong. I live in an apartment, not an officetel. |
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Lazio
Joined: 15 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| Beeyee wrote: |
| Lazio wrote: |
| Beeyee wrote: |
New air conditioners are very energy efficient.
In our house, we have one of the big self-standing ones in the living room and a smaller wallmounted one in our bedroom. The larger of the two is on for around 14 hours a day and the one in the bedroom about 12.
The total difference in our electric bill since we started using the air conditioners? A massive 10,000 won a month. |
That's because the total consumption is split between all the apartments in the building. Otherwise it can’t happen with that amount of usage, no matter how energy efficient the unit is. |
Nope, you are wrong. I live in an apartment, not an officetel. |
I never said that you live in an officetel. Some apartments also split the bills. A Korean co-teacher said they shivered through a winter because they didn’t want to use a lot of gas. Next summer they found out it was stupid since the bills are split. They live in an apartment.
If you run two standard (40W) fans for those hours you mentioned that will result in a 10,000Krw bump on your bill. You can’t seriously think that your A/C uses the same amount of electricity as a fan. |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| Lazio wrote: |
| Beeyee wrote: |
| Lazio wrote: |
| Beeyee wrote: |
New air conditioners are very energy efficient.
In our house, we have one of the big self-standing ones in the living room and a smaller wallmounted one in our bedroom. The larger of the two is on for around 14 hours a day and the one in the bedroom about 12.
The total difference in our electric bill since we started using the air conditioners? A massive 10,000 won a month. |
That's because the total consumption is split between all the apartments in the building. Otherwise it can’t happen with that amount of usage, no matter how energy efficient the unit is. |
Nope, you are wrong. I live in an apartment, not an officetel. |
I never said that you live in an officetel. Some apartments also split the bills. A Korean co-teacher said they shivered through a winter because they didn’t want to use a lot of gas. Next summer they found out it was stupid since the bills are split. They live in an apartment.
If you run two standard (40W) fans for those hours you mentioned that will result in a 10,000Krw bump on your bill. You can’t seriously think that your A/C uses the same amount of electricity as a fan. |
I don't know what you are not understanding but I am telling you that I do not share my electricity with anyone. I get billed for what I use.
New air conditioners are incredibly efficient. Setting the temperature at a modest 26 and on the lowest fan speed does indeed result in a 10,000 hike in my electricity bills. It was exactly the same last year. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Beeyee wrote: |
| Lazio wrote: |
| Beeyee wrote: |
| Lazio wrote: |
| Beeyee wrote: |
New air conditioners are very energy efficient.
In our house, we have one of the big self-standing ones in the living room and a smaller wallmounted one in our bedroom. The larger of the two is on for around 14 hours a day and the one in the bedroom about 12.
The total difference in our electric bill since we started using the air conditioners? A massive 10,000 won a month. |
That's because the total consumption is split between all the apartments in the building. Otherwise it can’t happen with that amount of usage, no matter how energy efficient the unit is. |
Nope, you are wrong. I live in an apartment, not an officetel. |
I never said that you live in an officetel. Some apartments also split the bills. A Korean co-teacher said they shivered through a winter because they didn’t want to use a lot of gas. Next summer they found out it was stupid since the bills are split. They live in an apartment.
If you run two standard (40W) fans for those hours you mentioned that will result in a 10,000Krw bump on your bill. You can’t seriously think that your A/C uses the same amount of electricity as a fan. |
I don't know what you are not understanding but I am telling you that I do not share my electricity with anyone. I get billed for what I use.
New air conditioners are incredibly efficient. Setting the temperature at a modest 26 and on the lowest fan speed does indeed result in a 10,000 hike in my electricity bills. It was exactly the same last year. |
You're not using a lot of electricity without the A/C because once you reach a certain threshold the price per KW makes a considerable jump. That's why I replaced my gaming desktop with a 500watt power supply with a laptop (that and I've lost interest in gaming). |
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Beeyee
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| Beeyee wrote: |
| Lazio wrote: |
| Beeyee wrote: |
| Lazio wrote: |
| Beeyee wrote: |
New air conditioners are very energy efficient.
In our house, we have one of the big self-standing ones in the living room and a smaller wallmounted one in our bedroom. The larger of the two is on for around 14 hours a day and the one in the bedroom about 12.
The total difference in our electric bill since we started using the air conditioners? A massive 10,000 won a month. |
That's because the total consumption is split between all the apartments in the building. Otherwise it can’t happen with that amount of usage, no matter how energy efficient the unit is. |
Nope, you are wrong. I live in an apartment, not an officetel. |
I never said that you live in an officetel. Some apartments also split the bills. A Korean co-teacher said they shivered through a winter because they didn’t want to use a lot of gas. Next summer they found out it was stupid since the bills are split. They live in an apartment.
If you run two standard (40W) fans for those hours you mentioned that will result in a 10,000Krw bump on your bill. You can’t seriously think that your A/C uses the same amount of electricity as a fan. |
I don't know what you are not understanding but I am telling you that I do not share my electricity with anyone. I get billed for what I use.
New air conditioners are incredibly efficient. Setting the temperature at a modest 26 and on the lowest fan speed does indeed result in a 10,000 hike in my electricity bills. It was exactly the same last year. |
You're not using a lot of electricity without the A/C because once you reach a certain threshold the price per KW makes a considerable jump. That's why I replaced my gaming desktop with a 500watt power supply with a laptop (that and I've lost interest in gaming). |
That too. My iMac is on 24/7 yet uses very little power. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| maximmm wrote: |
| Lazio wrote: |
| Beeyee wrote: |
New air conditioners are very energy efficient.
In our house, we have one of the big self-standing ones in the living room and a smaller wallmounted one in our bedroom. The larger of the two is on for around 14 hours a day and the one in the bedroom about 12.
The total difference in our electric bill since we started using the air conditioners? A massive 10,000 won a month. |
That's because the total consumption is split between all the apartments in the building. Otherwise it can’t happen with that amount of usage, no matter how energy efficient the unit is. |
That's correct. The officetel I lived in charged 250K Won during summer for utilities even when I was away for a month, with all my appliances turned off.
They take into consideration the size of the officetel and divide electrical bills in proportion to the room apartment/room sizes.
As I understand it, apartment buildings don't operate this way, but most officetels are a different story. |
Older officetels. Don't think new ones are like this. |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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The most important time in our house is when our daughter is trying to sleep. We don't run AC because the new apartment we moved into is better suited to an upright AC unit rather than a wall mounted unit, which we own. So, we use the frozen icepacks wrapped in a towel which works great for keeping hands and feet cooler, which are the most direct points of contact for cooling your body down. Our daughter usually sets her feet close to the edge of the towel with the icepack wrapped in it and sleeps, well, like a baby.  It works wonders for me too, and the icepacks usually last for 6 - 8 hours in a cold state. When done, just pop them back into the freezer and they are ready for another night. For day time activities we have a little play pool for the daughter that works wonder by going in for a while to cool down with mom, and then the temperatures don't feel nearly as bad. |
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rainman3277
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| The most important time in our house is when our daughter is trying to sleep. We don't run AC because the new apartment we moved into is better suited to an upright AC unit rather than a wall mounted unit, which we own. So, we use the frozen icepacks wrapped in a towel which works great for keeping hands and feet cooler, which are the most direct points of contact for cooling your body down. Our daughter usually sets her feet close to the edge of the towel with the icepack wrapped in it and sleeps, well, like a baby. It works wonders for me too, and the icepacks usually last for 6 - 8 hours in a cold state. When done, just pop them back into the freezer and they are ready for another night. For day time activities we have a little play pool for the daughter that works wonder by going in for a while to cool down with mom, and then the temperatures don't feel nearly as bad. |
If I understand you correctly, instead of buying a standup AC, you wrap your family up in cold packs each night? |
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jjajangmyun
Joined: 31 Aug 2011
Location: way down south!
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| Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| tob55 wrote: |
| The most important time in our house is when our daughter is trying to sleep. We don't run AC because the new apartment we moved into is better suited to an upright AC unit rather than a wall mounted unit, which we own. So, we use the frozen icepacks wrapped in a towel which works great for keeping hands and feet cooler, which are the most direct points of contact for cooling your body down. Our daughter usually sets her feet close to the edge of the towel with the icepack wrapped in it and sleeps, well, like a baby. It works wonders for me too, and the icepacks usually last for 6 - 8 hours in a cold state. When done, just pop them back into the freezer and they are ready for another night. For day time activities we have a little play pool for the daughter that works wonder by going in for a while to cool down with mom, and then the temperatures don't feel nearly as bad. |
If I understand you correctly, instead of buying a standup AC, you wrap your family up in cold packs each night? |
well, the whole point of this thread IS ways to stay cool WITHOUT A/C.
and no, dude, come on, he's not wrapping anybody up in anything at night. rainman creates makeshift icepacks and places them near the kids' feets and heads while they sleep. |
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rainman3277
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| rainman3277 wrote: |
| tob55 wrote: |
| The most important time in our house is when our daughter is trying to sleep. We don't run AC because the new apartment we moved into is better suited to an upright AC unit rather than a wall mounted unit, which we own. So, we use the frozen icepacks wrapped in a towel which works great for keeping hands and feet cooler, which are the most direct points of contact for cooling your body down. Our daughter usually sets her feet close to the edge of the towel with the icepack wrapped in it and sleeps, well, like a baby. It works wonders for me too, and the icepacks usually last for 6 - 8 hours in a cold state. When done, just pop them back into the freezer and they are ready for another night. For day time activities we have a little play pool for the daughter that works wonder by going in for a while to cool down with mom, and then the temperatures don't feel nearly as bad. |
If I understand you correctly, instead of buying a standup AC, you wrap your family up in cold packs each night? |
well, the whole point of this thread IS ways to stay cool WITHOUT A/C.
and no, dude, come on, he's not wrapping anybody up in anything at night. rainman creates makeshift icepacks and places them near the kids' feets and heads while they sleep. |
Thanks 'dude'. I realize he isn't wrapping his family up in ice. I'm joking skipper. |
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