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Does the Korean government even check your background?

 
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ricky_wwkk



Joined: 19 May 2012

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:33 am    Post subject: Does the Korean government even check your background? Reply with quote

Just curious-

does the provincial office of education, for example, double check the authenticity of your docuements submitted?

For instance, if someone moves to America or the UK in grade 8 but that person writes down in the application form that he studied in the country since grade 7 in order to meet the "native" English speaker status, how would the Korean government know that?

They wouldn't know unless they check with the immigration office back home but with this volume of applicants, how would that be possible?

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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they do, they don't let that bother what's convenient for them. Do you wish that Korea to be even more of a Big Brother, do you?
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think they pick up the phone ever. They're too afraid to speak English. That's why we have to get the documents apostiled(?).
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Does the Korean government even check your background? Reply with quote

ricky_wwkk wrote:
Just curious-

does the provincial office of education, for example, double check the authenticity of your docuements submitted?

For instance, if someone moves to America or the UK in grade 8 but that person writes down in the application form that he studied in the country since grade 7 in order to meet the "native" English speaker status, how would the Korean government know that?

They wouldn't know unless they check with the immigration office back home but with this volume of applicants, how would that be possible?

Rolling Eyes


They don't check outside of the documents you submit for a simple E2 application.

IF they have any question they simply deny the application and let you try again with more documents and a long delay in your application (usually costing you the job); just the same as your home country.

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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Does the Korean government even check your background? Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
ricky_wwkk wrote:
Just curious-

does the provincial office of education, for example, double check the authenticity of your docuements submitted?

For instance, if someone moves to America or the UK in grade 8 but that person writes down in the application form that he studied in the country since grade 7 in order to meet the "native" English speaker status, how would the Korean government know that?

They wouldn't know unless they check with the immigration office back home but with this volume of applicants, how would that be possible?

Rolling Eyes


They don't check outside of the documents you submit for a simple E2 application.

IF they have any question they simply deny the application and let you try again with more documents and a long delay in your application (usually costing you the job); just the same as your home country.

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Tom has it. The onus of proof if needed will be upon you.

Yea Korea government does not often verify info or pick up the phone. They do like lots of papers and stamps at times. Not to really read, but to quickly glance at and hold and stroke it lovingly.
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cheolsu



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was born in a non-English-speaking country. When I applied for my visa, I was asked if I could prove that I went to middle school or even high school in Canada. When I said didn't have report cards and that it would take weeks to get them, they processed the application without it.
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sirius black



Joined: 04 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Does the Korean government even check your background? Reply with quote

ricky_wwkk wrote:
Just curious-

does the provincial office of education, for example, double check the authenticity of your docuements submitted?

For instance, if someone moves to America or the UK in grade 8 but that person writes down in the application form that he studied in the country since grade 7 in order to meet the "native" English speaker status, how would the Korean government know that?

They wouldn't know unless they check with the immigration office back home but with this volume of applicants, how would that be possible?

Rolling Eyes


The various criminal background checks they know what to look for (watermarks, types of paper) because they see so many, especially American and Canadian who come here in large numbers. They have no idea about the various America state apostilles. There are 50 different ones.
They don't check notify the schools at all for a few reasons ( they don't speak English well enough compounded by the need to process so many in a reasonable amount of time)

NO ONE checks your employment history. Unis are doing some checking IF its related to experience as the education office may start doing some random audits. So, copies of teaching certs for example if you worked at a public school in America.

Basically, its a sight (and feel) test. Whomever the person processing it believes its authentic, they approve it. If they have suspicions they ask a senior person who in turn may ask the boss and there is a good chance its rejected because its easier to do that than take a chance or oftentimes use logic (which is sometimes the case).
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The paper that the CBC's that you apply for yourself come with is difficult to forge. Schools, at least public schools require transcripts. Transcripts are printed on special paper, it either changes color or its like money paper. No forging those. In addition some degree certificates have a plastic seal on it that is largely not forgeable. One of my degree certificates has one and the other doesn't. There are places that forge degree certificates and do a fairly good job. I don't know for sure if a bank notary could tell the difference except by having a copy of the signatures (the forgers may be able to get those too). I'm surprised Immigration doesn't require transcripts like most of the schools.
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