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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| With all the CCTV around, I'm surprised there's any ability to enforce "image protection" laws. |
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OBwannabe
Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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http://s931.photobucket.com/user/trevidoo/media/busan.jpg.html
Not sure if this link will work, but this was taken in 2009 I believe. It was mid-late June in Busan. There were groups of westerners scattered around the beach in groups. All trying to get their tan on.
If the link actually works, you'll see two Koreans dressed from head to toe with their tele-photo lenses taking close up pics of the tanning foreigners.
They came up to a group of us and started snapping pics. I shooed them away. We had a couple of girls in bikinis and thought it was inappropriate. They didn't try to communicate with us at all...just treated us like animals in the zoo.
They moved on after I got up and made them leave...but they just moved on to the next group of whities. This same summer a bunch of Sri Lankans(?) were arrested for snapping pics of girls at Haeundae out in plain view. Unreal.
I remember one newspaper had taken and printed pics of white girls tanning at the Hamilton hotel pool(without permission). I actually saw the photographer up on the roof peering down with his giant camera lens.
What a double-standard.
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| The kids parents went mental, saying it was illegal and them pulled him out of the school (one of the, was a police). |
Typical modern parents, having a go at the teacher and not their precious kid  However, they might have a point as schools probably have no-filming without prior consent rules, not being classed as public property |
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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
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| The kids parents went mental, saying it was illegal and them pulled him out of the school (one of the, was a police). |
Typical modern parents, having a go at the teacher and not their precious kid However, they might have a point as schools probably have no-filming without prior consent rules, not being classed as public property |
Good point, but I dont recall ever being asked if it was ok to cctv me while Im in a classroom.
Again, fecking double standard mother-fathers. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photography_and_the_law
According to the law here you can photograph anyone and anything you want on public property without asking anyone's permission. It does say, however, that certain places have laws about photographs of people 'under a person's clothing'. Maybe a beach would come into this category but a baseball game wouldn't. There is also a section about focusing on a person's private areas, which is what the Chinese guy did. I can understand why he didn't realize he'd broken the law but he must have known what he was doing was morally dubious at least. |
You really shouldn't rely on wikipedia.
There is absolutely no mention of Korea in the article to start with..
korea specifically introduced legislation to deal with these kinds of photographs. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| The kids parents went mental, saying it was illegal and them pulled him out of the school (one of the, was a police). |
Typical modern parents, having a go at the teacher and not their precious kid However, they might have a point as schools probably have no-filming without prior consent rules, not being classed as public property |
Good point, but I dont recall ever being asked if it was ok to cctv me while Im in a classroom.
Again, fecking double standard mother-fathers. |
Quick note to avoid you further angst, grief and frustration: they (whomever they actually are) will not ask your permission (or the permission of any Korean) to use CCTV to film you (or any other person)in subways, malls, airports, bus terminals, train stations, around the city, at ATMs, in cetrain stores and restaurants, in banks, in many stores, in most department stores...the list goes on and on.
By the way, the CCTV cameras are not race sensitive but I heard AES-K-sentry are pushing the government throught their extensive connections to develop Race-cams that will allow better monitoring of the foreign threat. This will go hand in hand with the Bongo Truck Initiative and the Re-ed camps.
Good luck out there.
There is a solution to the CCTV without your permission you know....wear a hood or mask. No one can film you without your consent then and know who you are! |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Korean men don't do this?
Yeah, right... there are actually websites dedicated to photos like this, but can't post links to them here. Not my type of thing, but apparently somebody's!
They've GOT to be kidding me! |
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Malislamusrex
Joined: 01 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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They are probably just worn out after going to norebangs every other week.
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| One police official stated, “Korean men usually don’t do anything that arouse suspicion, but foreign men have a tendency to satisfy their curiosity and take pictures. If you want to take pictures of a girl, ask her for her admission and even if you get the shot, posting it online is illegal.” |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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You really shouldn't rely on wikipedia.
There is absolutely no mention of Korea in the article to start with..
korea specifically introduced legislation to deal with these kinds of photographs. |
It actually clearly says at the top of the page that it's dealing with the English speaking world and needs improving. If you know about Korean law why don't you edit the wiki and add what you know about Korea? Or at least enlighten us here as to how Korean laws differ from the ones mentioned there. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
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You really shouldn't rely on wikipedia.
There is absolutely no mention of Korea in the article to start with..
korea specifically introduced legislation to deal with these kinds of photographs. |
It actually clearly says at the top of the page that it's dealing with the English speaking world and needs improving. If you know about Korean law why don't you edit the wiki and add what you know about Korea? Or at least enlighten us here as to how Korean laws differ from the ones mentioned there. |
So then why post it here when you know it has nothing to do with Korea? You realize that different countries have different laws right?
I posted this about a year ago:
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| Article 13 paragraph ① of Korean Act on Special Cases concerning the Punishment, etc. of Sexual Crimes says as follows : Article 13 (Taking Pictures by Camera etc) ① A person who takes a picture of another's body which provokes people's sexual desires and causes the public to feel shame using a camera or other a similar equipment, or who distributes, sells, lends, openly displays or shows the taken pictures, shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than five years or by a fine not exceeding thirty million won. |
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misher
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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There is absolutely no point in bringing up the HUGE double standard we all know exists. We all know its there and the thread will just devolve into a mudslinging match between people who know it's there and the few posters that constantly purport that it is same same same.
I remember when I was at Sogang, we had a cultural festival. Some brasilian guys did capoeira and some ukranian women did some kind of dance that had them clad in....well....clothing a little more suitable for the beach. Needles to say the dancers were um let's just say 'voluptious.'
That certainlt didn't stop 7 or 8 pervs from going RIGHT UP TO THE STAGE to get detailed angled shots. I could tell a few of the dancers were a little preturbed as they tried to carry on while cameras were basically a meter away from their bodies. I told my Korean teacher the someone should tell them to cut it out. Take pics but not in a way that is so blatently innappropriate. She agreed and then just laughed in a 'men will be men' way. God forbid if they were non koreans doing the same thing to Korean women.
I've also got quite a few other byeontae stories that seem to be taken out of a book from japan. Secret cameras in female bathrooms the works. Heck my ex was groped multiple times and had her picture taken by a peeping tom in the womens wc at coex. She said this crap happened all the time and it was Japan's fault ahhahahaha. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Quick note to avoid you further angst, grief and frustration: they (whomever they actually are) will not ask your permission (or the permission of any Korean) to use CCTV to film you (or any other person)in subways, malls, airports, bus terminals, train stations, around the city, at ATMs, in cetrain stores and restaurants, in banks, in many stores, in most department stores...the list goes on and on. |
As I'm sure you're aware, class rooms are not the same kind of place as the ones you mentioned above and should be be dealt with more sensitively. Most schools that do introduce them into class rooms do so after debating the idea and gaining consent from the teaching staff. I don't think they are required to do this legally but it's obviously the best policy for the smooth running of the school. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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So then why post it here when you know it has nothing to do with Korea? You realize that different countries have different laws right?
I posted this about a year ago:
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People often talk (rightly or wrongly) about 'the law' in general. One guy was talking about a baseball game in the US. I imagined it was difficult to find an exact summary of the law on this in Korea in English. But thanks for posting your extract again. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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So then why post it here when you know it has nothing to do with Korea? You realize that different countries have different laws right?
I posted this about a year ago:
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People often talk (rightly or wrongly) about 'the law' in general. One guy was talking about a baseball game in the US. I imagined it was difficult to find an exact summary of the law on this in Korea in English. But thanks for posting your extract again. |
He was not talking about a baseball game in the US. He never said the US anywhere.
He simply said baseball game and cheerleaders. Given our location and context, why would you think he was posting about a US ballgame? |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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He was not talking about a baseball game in the US. He never said the US anywhere.
He simply said baseball game and cheerleaders. Given our location and context, why would you think he was posting about a US ballgame?
Well he said 'any baseball game' so I assumed he was also including the US No idea really I'm a cricket man myself. |
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