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My friend needs help - can you help a little?
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Cacille



Joined: 05 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:30 am    Post subject: My friend needs help - can you help a little? Reply with quote

I have a friend who, by no fault of her own, her chance to get out of poverty was taken away because of someone else's mental illness who now needs to go get help for it. She was so close, and then this happens. Now, she has to move and that will throw her back into poverty when she was just starting to climb out. She has to move from Denver to Pennsylvania, and I'm trying to raise money for the cheapest way to get there, by train, along with helping her ship her small amount of stuff if she can't get it sold or can't bring it on the train.

If you can donate a small amt of money to help her, I would so appreciate it. She does deserve to get out of poverty, she's been there way too long and has an autistic child she is trying to support on top of it along with just starting to get her online business off the ground. Thanks if you can. Spread it if you can't and are willing, please! And if you don't like gofundme and you use paypal, I can send you her paypal address instead. Thank you!

http://www.gofundme.com/3x6130
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I need to move at the end of August, 2013 before the lease on my apartment is up. To avoid damaging my credit, I need to pay a $100 release fee, and an extra 30 days of rent ($860.) Any extra funds raised will help with other moving expenses, such as getting my things to the new place.


You want us to donate money to preserve this woman's credit score?
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, this sounds like something someone would just do directly to help out a friend. Not something you'd reach out to strangers for.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can always donate to me to improve my credit score.

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Cacille



Joined: 05 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it's not about her credit score. That's what she wrote, in tiredness, yesterday (she'll change it soon, I don't think she knows quite what she wrote). I'll tell you more about her story so you hopefully understand her situation more than just the two words she wrote that you don't like.

This woman is amazing. She has five mental and physical disorders, was raised in an extreme CULT, and, with her fiancee, are attempting to drag her way out of extreme, crushing poverty. With an autistic young son. She was in a bad situation with a man that hit her. She got out with help of her friend, now fiancee, and my help too (She stayed with me when traveling through my town). They moved together in a good state with good schools for sake of their son, and then the fiancee lost his job. He searched for TWO YEARS (and continuing) for one. She can't work a standard job due to the five disorders she has (And yes, she's tried applying for medicare and such -been denied 3x).
So, they made a plan. They would learn game coding together and make a game to sell. They started on it, and have gotten pretty far (almost finished). Then, fiancee had a sudden surprise mental breakdown, sheerly of stress from trying to survive in the lowest, crappiest apartment available in their town, plus a car accident with someone whom had no insurance which took away their only car, plus trying to learn a new thing and job search. In the meantime, rent got higher just because the landlords could up the rent by $100 cause they wanted to. No other reason (They were told this directly.)
After that, they found out about 3d printing and decided to start up an online store which uses a company to print designs they make. Combined with the hope of finishing their game, they finally, almost 3 years later or so, had an avenue out of poverty. Fiancee even got a contract for a short-term coding job!
And then he had another mental breakdown just 10 days ago. After speaking with mental health services, it is necessary for him to go home and live with his parents so he can get the services he needs to recover. Angie has no family to go home to. She got out of the cult before it killed her and there is sure as hell no way that she wants to expose her son to that life. She has had 0 opportunity to get an education and now she does not have the physical or mental ability to go back to school. One of the physical disabilities and two of the mental disabilities were brought on by the cult, by the way. I applaud her for getting out and speaking against her old cult's ways.

So, she has an opportunity to stay rent-free in someone's home now, but it's across the country. She needs $312 for the train ticket (the cheapest possible way). She needs the exit funds to get out of her contract with the apartment (something that may or may not be necessary, depending on if they get someone else into the apartment right away, but there is still next month's rent she may still have to pay anyway, even if she isn't there, because it's less than 30 days notice). She needs food for her and her son. All in all, we think $1000 will cover everything, basically. Raising enough for train tickets would be great though. It's either that or she has to walk from Colorado to Pennsylvania with a young son.

Hopefully this clears up stuff. Don't let two words in her post make her request seem less necessary.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In all kindness, I dont see how your elaborate story above has anything whatsoever to do with teachers of english in Korea. If your friend really needs a thousand bucks, take a hit from your paycheck & just send it to her.
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IPayInCash



Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im with schwa.... 1000 dollars? Why dont YOU just send her the money instead of laying the burden on us?

There are a million stories like this. Still not convinced and am not sending a dime.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cacille wrote:

Hopefully this clears up stuff. Don't let two words in her post make her request seem less necessary.


The fact that a stranger is directing us to another person's donations page despite that page reading, "$0 raised by 0 people in 21 hours," is what makes it seem less necessary. According to previous posts, you've a job here in Korea with a 2.3 million a month salary, and you've a credit card, so you're clearly capable of donating. Show us how much you value this woman making it to Pennsylvania. Put a dollar amount on it. Perhaps it will inspire others.
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radcon



Joined: 23 May 2011

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did she get mixed up with this cult in the first place? Where is it located? What is the name of the cult? Why doesn't she hit up her fiances family for the $1000. How were they able to afford computer classes if they were in such crushing poverty?
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IPayInCash



Joined: 27 Jul 2013
Location: Away from all my board stalkers :)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Youre making 2.3? You could EASILY pay this woman the money if shes so important for you. Smh @ coming here begging for us to paysme random woman when you easily make enough money to help her.
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Cacille



Joined: 05 Oct 2011

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've donated to her through Paypal. Somewhere around $2000 now total over this year and last, during her bad months in poverty from $50 to $300 each time. The fiancee and her work hard, when opportunity comes, they take it. Small jobs, temp jobs (fiancee did have a job delivering pizza till some jerk with no insurance hit their car, gave false info, and ran). This is a bad situation that hit both of us right after I sent her a donation to cover this August month's rent. I can't donate more right now, and definitely not in time. My credit card is maxed from vacation - which I did only a week before this sudden mental illness situation came up. She has only a week and a half before she has to move (Aug 26, the cheapest train date). I get paid on the 25th and it takes two days to send- so it won't be on time. Plus I can't anyway, since I sent her money last month and vacation took my money, next month I gotta pay the bills I put off for my own vacation. My own financial plan should not be in question here. I'm asking for help for a good friend whom I have helped a LOT and simply can't do more.
I've done all I can financially for her. Which is why you haven't seen this message before. I don't ask others if I can do something about it.

How did she get mixed up in this cult? She was born into it. Started by her grandmother - the cult is called "Born in Zion", and it's largely defunct now, but only because Angie was supposed to be the next leader of the cult. Her mother never really left but isn't doing anything, trying to take care of severe-alzheimer's grandma now (ha. Person who started the cult now can't even remember the harm she's done or the children she's killed in it).
It was located in Florida. Family has no money, her mother is spending her money taking care of grandma and barely living herself. Computer classes? HAHAHAHAHA. They are teaching THEMSELVES coding. I think they managed to buy one book to help them. They are doing all the coding by simple trying and making mistakes. With free software and a computer that often breaks down.

Should I feel bad for trying to do everything I can to help a friend in need?
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radcon



Joined: 23 May 2011

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW. http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2010/03/the_bizarre_religious_roots_of_the_abortion_tweeter.html
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rollo



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a rotten cold, a rather gimpy knee and generally feel quite cranky. Despite these handicaps, I managed to make it to work, took out garbage and listened to wife complain about her day. I need help so can you spare a few bucks?

Really internet scammers and pan handlers targeting Daves??? Korean Nets are some of the most tightfisted people on the planet. Good luck getting anything. You might get an 8 year old Lonely Planet Thailand with no cover at best.
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the funding website, this woman has 3527 Facebook friends, and still not a single dollar donated. As a non-Facebook user, perhaps I'm misunderstanding exactly what constitutes "Facebook friendship." I thought it was some sort of variant on actual friendship, when in actuality, it seems to mean something like, "I care less about you than I do about the bum I pass on the street, because at least I'll give him a bit of change."
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
According to the funding website, this woman has 3527 Facebook friends, and still not a single dollar donated. As a non-Facebook user, perhaps I'm misunderstanding exactly what constitutes "Facebook friendship." I thought it was some sort of variant on actual friendship, when in actuality, it seems to mean something like, "I care less about you than I do about the bum I pass on the street, because at least I'll give him a bit of change."


She in fact has over 4,000 friends and over 1,000 "followers". I don't think she needs help in raising money here on Dave's....
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