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OBwannabe
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 Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:52 pm Post subject: Generation Jobless Documentary |
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http://www.cbc.ca/doczone/episode/generation-jobless.html
Pretty interesting doc on the current situation for many grads of this generation.
Canadian doc, but I'm sure the situation is very much mirrored in the US, UK and other countries represented in Korea by EFL teachers.
Hopefully the link will work over in the ROK. |
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actionjackson
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: Generation Jobless Documentary |
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| OBwannabe wrote: |
http://www.cbc.ca/doczone/episode/generation-jobless.html
Pretty interesting doc on the current situation for many grads of this generation.
Canadian doc, but I'm sure the situation is very much mirrored in the US, UK and other countries represented in Korea by EFL teachers.
Hopefully the link will work over in the ROK. |
I tried watching in my classroom and getting a you can only watch it in Canada message. |
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OBwannabe
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| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Crap. Well maybe someone will post it for download. |
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bmaw01
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:13 am Post subject: |
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There are jobs out there. The problem is we need people who are skilled in areas such as math and science. The problem is most young people are led to believe that any degree will do. I can't tell you how many people that I've met in South Korea who have meaningless degrees. For instance, in America we had over 95,000 graduates who studied Anthropology. Where are they all going to find work? They will probably never be able to find work.
I read an article a week ago that stated that Asian Americans have been able to do very well in spite of the recession. Why? It's because they have strong math and science skills. |
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some waygug-in
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There are plenty of 711 type jobs out there. The reason Canada is importing boatloads of filipinos and Pakistannis is because most of Canadian
youth feels they are "too good" for most jobs. |
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Lucas
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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I watched C4 (UK TV) series called 'skint' over the weekend.
You can find it and download it via the usual method.
Very depressing! It's a 4 part series I think - only seen two of them so far.
I'm saving the other two for when I'm really down, to cheer myself up! 
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/skint/episode-guide |
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Paddycakes
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| bmaw01 wrote: |
| There are jobs out there. The problem is we need people who are skilled in areas such as math and science. |
You should qualify that statement by saying "Applied" sciences/maths.
Any "pure" science is just as economically useless as a BA in poli sci. |
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edwardcatflap
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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I watched C4 (UK TV) series called 'skint' over the weekend.
You can find it and download it via the usual method.
Very depressing! It's a 4 part series I think - only seen two of them so far.
I'm saving the other two for when I'm really down, to cheer myself up! Crying or Very sad
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/skint/episode-guide |
Yes, narrated by 'Finchy' from The Office to give it extra northern grit. Have you seen the one where 15 of them go on holiday in one caravan? Priceless. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
There are plenty of 711 type jobs out there. The reason Canada is importing boatloads of filipinos and Pakistannis is because most of Canadian
youth feels they are "too good" for most jobs. |
I suspect it's less that they feel they're "too good," and more that they want a job that pays a living wage.
The purpose of importing Filipinos and Pakistanis is to depress wages, not to fill genuine skill gaps. You see the same thing with the push for H-1B visas in America: the goal is to get cheaper workers instead of letting wages increase to what the market would otherwise dictate. This is how capitalism works in the west: when a market trend benefits the economic elite, it is tread like moral law, and when a market trend is disadvantageous to the economic elite, government policy is brought to bear to eliminate it. |
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Ginormousaurus
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| Paddycakes wrote: |
| bmaw01 wrote: |
| There are jobs out there. The problem is we need people who are skilled in areas such as math and science. |
You should qualify that statement by saying "Applied" sciences/maths.
Any "pure" science is just as economically useless as a BA in poli sci. |
I'm just curious about what you consider to be a useless pure science.
I think a biology degree might fit into that category. |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
| Paddycakes wrote: |
| bmaw01 wrote: |
| There are jobs out there. The problem is we need people who are skilled in areas such as math and science. |
You should qualify that statement by saying "Applied" sciences/maths.
Any "pure" science is just as economically useless as a BA in poli sci. |
I'm just curious about what you consider to be a useless pure science.
I think a biology degree might fit into that category. |
A lot of pure math, and physics guys get hired in many fields. Also, geology and geophysics are pretty lucrative fields too. Not saying if you have one of those degrees you'll get a job, but the changes are good. |
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Ginormousaurus
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| Even a biology degree would probably help you at least get an interview in an unrelated field where other applicants might have easier degrees. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
| Paddycakes wrote: |
| bmaw01 wrote: |
| There are jobs out there. The problem is we need people who are skilled in areas such as math and science. |
You should qualify that statement by saying "Applied" sciences/maths.
Any "pure" science is just as economically useless as a BA in poli sci. |
I'm just curious about what you consider to be a useless pure science.
I think a biology degree might fit into that category. |
A lot of pure math, and physics guys get hired in many fields. Also, geology and geophysics are pretty lucrative fields too. Not saying if you have one of those degrees you'll get a job, but the changes are good. |
Chemistry can also lead to a decent job. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| some waygug-in wrote: |
There are plenty of 711 type jobs out there. The reason Canada is importing boatloads of filipinos and Pakistannis is because most of Canadian
youth feels they are "too good" for most jobs. |
I suspect it's less that they feel they're "too good," and more that they want a job that pays a living wage.
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Then how is that the people who come over (many with families to support) are able to do so if these jobs do not pay a living wage?
Costs of living in Canada are just as high for them as they would be for a Canadian youth...plus a Canadian youth would have access to social programs like welfare and free healthcare.
I suspect it's more because Canadian youth want a job that pays for a lot of "toys" (Cable TV, internet, a laptop/tablet, and a car...although the last is actually a necessity for many jobs).
As a Canadian I've seen many Canadian youth (late teens/early 20's) sitting outside malls and panhandling. Surely even a type of those jobs above would pay more...plus many Canadian youth are now living with mom and dad in record numbers now which would further cut down on costs.
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| National Picture — In 2011, 42.3% of young adults aged 20 to 29 years lived with their parent(s). This is a significant increase from 30 years ago. |
http://www4.hrsdc.gc.ca/[email protected]?iid=77 |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| some waygug-in wrote: |
There are plenty of 711 type jobs out there. The reason Canada is importing boatloads of filipinos and Pakistannis is because most of Canadian
youth feels they are "too good" for most jobs. |
I suspect it's less that they feel they're "too good," and more that they want a job that pays a living wage.
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Then how is that the people who come over (many with families to support) are able to do so if these jobs do not pay a living wage? |
Part of it is that the government does provide support for the victims of non-living wages, part of it is that easy access to credit allows them to get by, albeit in a constantly indebted (and thus constantly harassed) state, and part of it is that they simply forego things that a citizen of an wealthy, developed nation ought not need to forego.
I think your confusion probably stems from the term "living wage." That does not mean "a wage which, if received, will allow you to be alive." The irony is that the things you're classifying as "toys" are not themselves particularly expensive (except the car, which you yourself admit is often a necessity rather than a "toy"). It's raising a family and providing a household for them which is expensive, not the Internet and cable television. Forming families and raising children is not some fancy privilege, it's part of the very foundation of the human experience. Anyone who works full time should be able to reasonably afford it. |
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