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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 5:45 am    Post subject: cel phones Reply with quote

Simple and easy

If I see it!....it's mine!....if I hear it! It's mine!

I make sure all students know this up front. I have held onto a phone for up to 2 weeks with particularily rude students or repeat offenders.

I also tell them that I will be calling my friends in Canada Wink That scares them as their parents pay the bills. With one really bad student I confiscated it for two weeks and pretended to call Canada on my breaks.....talked to his mother and father(their English was pretty good) and we conspired to have them 'flip out' when the phone bill came...that was three months ago, he is totally paranoid about his cell phone now. Laughing
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Sucker



Joined: 11 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful when you take phones from students. Remember that these cell phones form a vital part of some (most) students social life.

There was an incident last year at my college (I didn't work there at the time but I have met the guy it happened to). A teacher took a cell phone from a sports major because he was using it in class.

The sports major threw a fit and stormed out of class. Anyway, that night the student followed the teacher all the way home - apparently he was physically threatening him along the way - eventually he "mugged" the teacher and got his phone back.

Needless to say the kid was kicked out of the school and the situation didn't turn violent, but it could have very easily.
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oneiros



Joined: 19 Aug 2003
Location: Villa Straylight

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I treat cell phones the same as comics and toys - it stays in your bag, out of sight, and on vibrate only. If your mom, dad or grandparent calls you, you can answer it. If you break the rules, I won't take the phone (some of them are really expensive, and I don't want to be responsible for them) but I will take your batteries. Very Happy
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the teacher got what they deserved. A college teacher has no grounds to take a cell phone away from a college student. In a college setting, the students are presumed to be adults. If they are using their cell phone in class, marking them absent is sufficient response.

Keeping the phone overnight amounts to stealing, IMO.
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oneiros wrote:
I treat cell phones the same as comics and toys - it stays in your bag, out of sight, and on vibrate only. If your mom, dad or grandparent calls you, you can answer it. If you break the rules, I won't take the phone (some of them are really expensive, and I don't want to be responsible for them) but I will take your batteries. Very Happy


That's actually a great idea.
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wylde



Joined: 14 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FUBAR wrote:
oneiros wrote:
I treat cell phones the same as comics and toys - it stays in your bag, out of sight, and on vibrate only. If your mom, dad or grandparent calls you, you can answer it. If you break the rules, I won't take the phone (some of them are really expensive, and I don't want to be responsible for them) but I will take your batteries. Very Happy


That's actually a great idea.


thanks for the program oneiros but i think that is kinda too soft.. my drawer has a lock and so does my office..

when i was a lad... my parents were smart enough to understand i was in school.. if it was a serious problem they would call the school and a teacher would come and get me..

the batteries are easily interchanged given the amount of cell phones circulating these days.. that wouldn't be a big thing.. "let me use your battery to check my messages" kinda thing..

take it off them or give it to a korean teacher... after a few months of this i rarely see them at all

much different in a hakwon situation though
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cacheSurfer



Joined: 07 Dec 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Students are using cell phones to cheat Exclamation


http://www.wftv.com/education/3295729/detail.html
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The University of Texas at Brownsville
Curriculum & Instruction
Spring 2004
Cellular Phones and Pagers
The use of cellular phones or pagers is prohibited in this classroom. If an emergency exists, let the instructor know.
http://blue.utb.edu/reyr/2101%20Course%20Folder/Syll.edci2101Spring2004.htm

University of Nevada, Las Vegas
ICE 459: CLASSROOM MANAGEMENT IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
Please Note: As a courtesy to the class, please do not bring beepers, pagers, or cellular phones to class.
http://www.unlv.edu/faculty/odells/459S02.html

Cell Phones
Cell phones are not allowed in school and will be confiscated and secured in the Main Office. Parents will be required to pick them up from the main office.
Parent-Student Handbook
http://www.mann-hs.eu.odedodea.edu/ParentInfo/Handbook.htm
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jurassic5



Joined: 02 Apr 2003
Location: PA

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cacheSurfer wrote:
Students are using cell phones to cheat Exclamation


http://www.wftv.com/education/3295729/detail.html



i used to use my graphing calculator in high school. Shocked

good old TI-82's.
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oneiros



Joined: 19 Aug 2003
Location: Villa Straylight

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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when i was a lad... my parents were smart enough to understand i was in school.. if it was a serious problem they would call the school and a teacher would come and get me..

the batteries are easily interchanged given the amount of cell phones circulating these days.. that wouldn't be a big thing.. "let me use your battery to check my messages" kinda thing..

take it off them or give it to a korean teacher... after a few months of this i rarely see them at all

much different in a hakwon situation though

I do work at a hogwan. Smile I can definitely understand how it wouldn't work in a public school situation, though. It's easy for me to monitor ten kids. Monitoring 20-30 kids would be a lot different.

I agree that they don't belong in a public school, but hogwans raise a whole new set of issues. Okay, one issue. Money. You've got to keep the parents happy, and some of them get upset if they can't reach their kid right away. That's why I had to shift away from my initial policy, which was "in your bag and turned off."
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katydid wrote:

Quote:
At my friend's boys middle school, cell phones were banned after it was found the boys were taking covert under the skirt photos of their hot Japanese teacher and posting them on line. It temporarily wrecked her life.


That's one end of the spectrum for cell-phone use. The other would be those kids who filmed their teacher beating that girl senseless, and put it on the internet. If cell phones had been banned from schools, that guy would still be teaching.
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panthermodern



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope ... phone rings I stop and wait ...

Until the offending student appologises not only to me but also to the class.

Sometime it takes a while ...


EXCEPTIONS:

People with People giving birth (one step only) ...
Doctors who are being called because some will die ...

Naw why are they in class anyway ...
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was easy enough for me to control in the university classes that I was teaching; I did the same thing when pagers were the "thing" to have.
Rule number one in my class:
Pagers/cell phones off. I have a large sign written in English and Korean on the wall. If you disturb my class with the ringing of these items, the constant checking and or text messaging, the ENTIRE class is marked absent for that day or I just close my book and walk out of the classroom and go to my office until the next class. If you are caught cheating during an exam, both you and the student(s) whose paper you were copying from have earned yourselves an "F."
I don't give you grades, you earn them. I make the whole class responsible for each other. Do like it, I don't care. Don't sign up for my class then. I put a lot of hours in preparing lessons and trying to give the best lesson that I can, the least you can do as students is to try and remember what it is I am teaching you without disrupting the others by your lack of manners by answering the phone or checking it.
Have respect and show respect and manners.
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Harin



Joined: 03 May 2004
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will admit upfront that I loathe and despise cell phones. Very obnoxious. I am cell phone free and so proud of it.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:

That's one end of the spectrum for cell-phone use. The other would be those kids who filmed their teacher beating that girl senseless, and put it on the internet. If cell phones had been banned from schools, that guy would still be teaching.

He's still teaching, though isn't he? Just not at that school. I've got 40 kids in my classes and the easiest way to catch a handphone is when there eyes aren't on me. It's mine for a day and they have to write lines before they get it back. A couple of times I've taken a phone where the friend was using it, but someone has to do the lines before they get their phone back.
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