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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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"something that just tells the time"... you talk as if watches don't have altimeters, stop watch functionality, moon phase calendars, barometers, compasses, calendars, tourbillions, chronometers, dive timers, world times, calculators, etc.
a sundial tells the time too and is as cheap as taking a free stick off the ground and by your logic we should all use that since it's cheap and is only "performing a very simple task" over owning a real watch... |
Yes, yes but nobody uses all that other stuff really, do they? It's like the thing for taking the stones out of horses shoes on a Swiss Army knife. I'd guesstimate the vast majority of guys basically buy watches because of how they look, the brand name and how much they cost. I'm prepared to admit you might be an exception. |
i don't disagree with that statement edward because it's true. most guys would buy a watch just as a status symbol. my original argument didn't have anything to do with that though, i was arguing that comparing a watch to a handbag was an extremely poor comparison. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:14 am Post subject: |
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A lot of clothing for women lacks pockets, and, even when there are pockets, we wouldn't look as nice with bulges where we carry phones and wallets.
Sure, a cheap bag works, but I prefer a nice one made out of leather. It doesn't have to be a designer bag, but it has to be well made. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| i don't disagree with that statement edward because it's true. most guys would buy a watch just as a status symbol. my original argument didn't have anything to do with that though, i was arguing that comparing a watch to a handbag was an extremely poor comparison. |
But that's the same reason why most women buy handbags. So in that sense it's a good comparison. Maybe not in the sense that a watch has a lot of different functions and moving parts and a handbag doesn't, I concede |
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Nester Noodlemon
Joined: 16 Jan 2009
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| I have always wanted a rolex. I am not sure why. I don't really care to show it to others. But there is something about looking at a rolex and knowing it is a rolex that makes me feel good. Really, I would like to have one even if it meant carrying it around in my pocket and never showing it to another person. But I still can't convince myself that it would bring me 8 million won of enjoyment. Though, it might. Woe is me. |
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meangradin
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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| You've clearly never laid hands on an authentic Italian or French designer handbag. The craftsmanship is exquisite. |
I totally agree. My wife has a Chloe bag that is incredibly well made, to say nothing of its wonderful design. |
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hagwonnewbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia
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| Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:08 am Post subject: |
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watches = handbags for men
I bought a high end knock-off Rolex from a friend for 200$ last year cause he needed the money..
I took it to a jeweler who appraised it at $6,000 before replacing the battery and seeing it was bogus.
Likewise, my ex-girlfriend bought a LV handbag only to find out from her friend later that it was probably a fake.
Fake people like name brands because they believe they can define themselves with a logo. Consumerism is not a valid means of self expression. |
this is an idiotic statement. i personally enjoy horology and having a nice mechanical movement in my watches as opposed to a cheap digital quartz. (i however do own and wear cheap digital quartz watches without a problem)
horology? Don't you mean WHOROLOGY? Do you sit and stare at the movement of the second hand for hours? Get a life!
as a nerd i like a solid mechanical watch that is intricate and a marvel of engineering that i can hand down to my child or grandchild. i'm sorry but a 50 dollar swatch isn't going to fit that bill.
also, rolex's don't use batteries so that jeweler was obviously not well versed in mechanical watches.
Another hipster know it all spitting out misinformation. Thanks, tardo.
i don't "define myself with a logo" in fact i avoid all logos i can on clothing, items i own, etc. i do however enjoy good design as noted by my favourite watch companies.
i bet you're the type of person who also uses disposable razors and thinks that more blades are better just because the advertisements say so. tip: try a old-style double edged razor blade in a nice solid metal shaver that you can also hand down to your child or grandchild because not only does it give a much superior shave than that 5 blade nonsense, it's substantial and not wasteful.
Yes, I have a nice razor, dish and brush. However, I will use a double bladed disposable and aerosol cream when I travel. Seems to work just as well honestly. Wow! You've got me all figured out.
fake people do however worry about what other people buy because they can't just be themselves and have to compare how pious and righteous they think they are to others, especially when they have a complete misconception about life based on their own insecurities. |
Ya, guy. I'm pious, self-righteous and insecure because I think it's silly to drop 5 grand on a Rolex. But then it doesn't matter what anyone says. You'll keep wasting money and coming up with some crap to justify your consumer crutches. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
as a nerd i like a solid mechanical watch that is intricate and a marvel of engineering that i can hand down to my child or grandchild. i'm sorry but a 50 dollar swatch isn't going to fit that bill. |
My 200 dollar Swiss Army watch is probably more reliable than an expensive Rolex and is very good quality. Wouldn't a grandchild or child probably like the money that you gained from investing that 5000 in good stocks online when the stocks are strong better than the watch? You can do a lot with 5000 dollars in terms of making money and not a whole lot in terms of making money with a 5000 dollar watch. That stuff is for people that are really well off. A Rolex is useful if you want to make an impression on people that you come into contact with and not much else, like if your a businessman. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| hagwonnewbie wrote: |
| wishfullthinkng wrote: |
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watches = handbags for men
I bought a high end knock-off Rolex from a friend for 200$ last year cause he needed the money..
I took it to a jeweler who appraised it at $6,000 before replacing the battery and seeing it was bogus.
Likewise, my ex-girlfriend bought a LV handbag only to find out from her friend later that it was probably a fake.
Fake people like name brands because they believe they can define themselves with a logo. Consumerism is not a valid means of self expression. |
this is an idiotic statement. i personally enjoy horology and having a nice mechanical movement in my watches as opposed to a cheap digital quartz. (i however do own and wear cheap digital quartz watches without a problem)
horology? Don't you mean WHOROLOGY? Do you sit and stare at the movement of the second hand for hours? Get a life!
as a nerd i like a solid mechanical watch that is intricate and a marvel of engineering that i can hand down to my child or grandchild. i'm sorry but a 50 dollar swatch isn't going to fit that bill.
also, rolex's don't use batteries so that jeweler was obviously not well versed in mechanical watches.
Another hipster know it all spitting out misinformation. Thanks, tardo.
i don't "define myself with a logo" in fact i avoid all logos i can on clothing, items i own, etc. i do however enjoy good design as noted by my favourite watch companies.
i bet you're the type of person who also uses disposable razors and thinks that more blades are better just because the advertisements say so. tip: try a old-style double edged razor blade in a nice solid metal shaver that you can also hand down to your child or grandchild because not only does it give a much superior shave than that 5 blade nonsense, it's substantial and not wasteful.
Yes, I have a nice razor, dish and brush. However, I will use a double bladed disposable and aerosol cream when I travel. Seems to work just as well honestly. Wow! You've got me all figured out.
fake people do however worry about what other people buy because they can't just be themselves and have to compare how pious and righteous they think they are to others, especially when they have a complete misconception about life based on their own insecurities. |
Ya, guy. I'm pious, self-righteous and insecure because I think it's silly to drop 5 grand on a Rolex. But then it doesn't matter what anyone says. You'll keep wasting money and coming up with some crap to justify your consumer crutches. |
you must live a nice life, "tardo". lol. |
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wishfullthinkng
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
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as a nerd i like a solid mechanical watch that is intricate and a marvel of engineering that i can hand down to my child or grandchild. i'm sorry but a 50 dollar swatch isn't going to fit that bill. |
My 200 dollar Swiss Army watch is probably more reliable than an expensive Rolex and is very good quality. Wouldn't a grandchild or child probably like the money that you gained from investing that 5000 in good stocks online when the stocks are strong better than the watch? You can do a lot with 5000 dollars in terms of making money and not a whole lot in terms of making money with a 5000 dollar watch. That stuff is for people that are really well off. A Rolex is useful if you want to make an impression on people that you come into contact with and not much else, like if your a businessman. |
it all depends on what's valuable to you. money comes and goes. give your kid a paper that says they are a little richer or a nice timepiece. i know which one would mean more to me but it's hard to say for others. and i'm not sure why people are stuck on the concept of rolexes. is it just because people think they're the best watch ever? |
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hagwonnewbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia
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Dear Wishfulthinking,
Just trolling you with the cynicism and name calling. Actually I've always wanted a nicer watch, but I could never justify it. I will probably end up buying several under 1000$ watches in the next few years purely out of vanity.
However your argument about passing it on to your kids still doesn't hold any water for me. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone under 25 who would rather have an old Rolex than 5 or 10 grand in cash.
as far as functionality, it can't be compared to a car. A nice car has so many systems related to safety, comfort, convenience, etc. While a reliable and safe car is a necessity in many places, a decent time piece is merely a garnish on a nice dish. In fact, it could be a hindrance in some situations. For example if you're trying to negotiate a price or appear humble. There are plenty of places in the world where having a gold Rolex is a ticket to getting robbed in public.
If you give most people a watch to wear, it's almost sure to be lost, stolen or broken within a year. Why spend so much money on a Rolex unless you're simply trying to appear to be someone rich or a complete jerk? Those seem to be the only people wearing them. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Dear Wishfulthinking,
Just trolling you with the cynicism and name calling. Actually I've always wanted a nicer watch, but I could never justify it. I will probably end up buying several under 1000$ watches in the next few years purely out of vanity.
However your argument about passing it on to your kids still doesn't hold any water for me. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone under 25 who would rather have an old Rolex than 5 or 10 grand in cash.
as far as functionality, it can't be compared to a car. A nice car has so many systems related to safety, comfort, convenience, etc. While a reliable and safe car is a necessity in many places, a decent time piece is merely a garnish on a nice dish. In fact, it could be a hindrance in some situations. For example if you're trying to negotiate a price or appear humble. There are plenty of places in the world where having a gold Rolex is a ticket to getting robbed in public.
If you give most people a watch to wear, it's almost sure to be lost, stolen or broken within a year. Why spend so much money on a Rolex unless you're simply trying to appear to be someone rich or a complete jerk? Those seem to be the only people wearing them. |
Also if you gave your kid a watch you'd have to tell him how much it had cost/was worth or he'd probably get careless and leave it somewhere (unless you had a Pulp Fiction type story about it having been up generations of asses) Once he found out it was valuable, this would almost certainly be the main reason, probably the only reason, why he would treasure it. Not because it was made of 200 separate bits of metal or told the time in a hundred different countries. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:31 am Post subject: |
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| or told the time in a hundred different countries. |
You'd have to buy an inexpensive electronic watch for that or one of those $200,000 Cartiers.  |
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annecatherin
Joined: 10 Sep 2013
Location: Jacksonville, FL 32202
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| Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| i don't disagree with that statement edward because it's true. most guys would buy a watch just as a status symbol. my original argument didn't have anything to do with that though, i was arguing that comparing a watch to a handbag was an extremely poor comparison. |
But that's the same reason why most women buy handbags. So in that sense it's a good comparison. Maybe not in the sense that a watch has a lot of different functions and moving parts and a handbag doesn't, I concede |
Yeah,, and now a days its become a fashion of all the women carrying there hand bags, isn't?? And if I talk about watches then I do have some collection of different brands like one of my favorite "Rolex", Rip Curl watches, then Tudor.  |
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meangradin
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| I don't get the hate , it's not like we're spending your money. Ultimately, you are telling me how I should spend my money and that is just silly. |
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drcrazy
Joined: 19 Feb 2003
Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan
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| Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| I love expensive things. That is one reason why I would never buy things on sale. Anyway, on the topic of watches, I saw a watch a few months ago that I wanted so bad. Then they told me the price was 500,000W. It looked liked it should have been much much more expensive. If it had been 5,000,000 I would have bought it in a second. However, 500,000 W was just not expensive enough for my taste. |
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