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fermentation
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 Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
Speculation says the winner of this fight could face Pac-man but given Floyd's history of ducking the Filipino... |
Lol. You really need to get over your Mayweather hate and actually follow the events that happened before throwing around judgements about a man you don't know. Pac-May will never happen not because Floyd is "ducking" but because Arum's greedy ass refuses to have his money makers fight fighters from other promotions. Also, it's Pac's camp that's been making excuses for not doing drug testing. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| fermentation wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
Speculation says the winner of this fight could face Pac-man but given Floyd's history of ducking the Filipino... |
Lol. You really need to get over your Mayweather hate and actually follow the events that happened before throwing around judgements about a man you don't know. Pac-May will never happen not because Floyd is "ducking" but because Arum's greedy ass refuses to have his money makers fight fighters from other promotions. Also, it's Pac's camp that's been making excuses for not doing drug testing. |
I don't hate Floyd and would put my money on him over Pac-man IF they fought. And that's the key word -- IF. Floyd will never lived down his refusal to fight Pac-man even when the latter agreed to most of the conditions.
Yet another megafight in boxing that never happened. |
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Stan Rogers
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| Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Floyd is a faster and a more percise puncher than Pac. Pac is tough but he would not be able to withstand the punishment.
Alvarez needs to hit Mayweather with left hooks to the body if he wants to slow him down. Otherwise he's doesn't have a chance. |
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Yaya
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| Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| Floyd is a great fighter but he DID duck Pac-man in the latter's prime in making every friggin' excuse not to fight the Filipino. I'm thinking Floyd would beat Pac-man in their primes, and well, I'm really wondering why Floyd just doesn't get it over with now. Even with Pac-man's skills waning, a fight with him would be huge, though nowhere near what it would've been years earlier. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't know how you can say it was Floyd who making every excuse when stuff like "I'm afraid of needles" came out of Pac's camp when it came to drug testing, and Pac has tattoos. I don't believe Pac was "ducking" Mayweather though. If you research the negotiations, there was all sort of bullshit coming from both sides, but for some reason, it's because Floyd was the one "ducking." Pac made excuses, Roach made more excuses, and Arum made the most of the excuses. A fight doesn't happen because two guys just decide to fight, there's a complex series of negotiations by the management that precludes it. Seeing how Arum treats his other fighters, I firmly believe he's the main reason for the fight not happening. |
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Yaya
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| Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| fermentation wrote: |
| I don't know how you can say it was Floyd who making every excuse when stuff like "I'm afraid of needles" came out of Pac's camp when it came to drug testing, and Pac has tattoos. I don't believe Pac was "ducking" Mayweather though. If you research the negotiations, there was all sort of bullshit coming from both sides, but for some reason, it's because Floyd was the one "ducking." Pac made excuses, Roach made more excuses, and Arum made the most of the excuses. A fight doesn't happen because two guys just decide to fight, there's a complex series of negotiations by the management that precludes it. Seeing how Arum treats his other fighters, I firmly believe he's the main reason for the fight not happening. |
Seems the fight is hard to watch online. Oh well.
I've read plenty of boxing analysis over the years and the nearly unanimous view is that Floyd HAS been ducking Pac-man, pure and simple. Pac-man even offered Floyd 55 percent of the purse and the like, and I believe he also agreed to the drug test within two weeks of the fight. Again, Floyd ducked him and though I'm sure Arum is no angel, the fight would've happened had Floyd wanted it. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, Floyd embarrasses yet another boxer, this time Saul Alvarez. Floyd's next opponent seems to be Danny Garcia but hopefully a more high profile fighter can be found since Floyd has dominated his last several fights. |
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fermentation
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| Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Don't read opinions from "experts," read the facts and chronological order of events. Not that we have the full story but all I got from it was that both sides spewed bullshit. Arum is the guy who's refusing to give freaking Rigondeaux a fight, and setting up Pacquiao vs Rios of all the fights that could've been made. Arum and Mayweather also have a history together as well. Remember it was also Mayweather's camp that initially approached Pac's management from the very beginning of all of this. But Mayweather got called a chicken because he demanded drug testing, which ironically now is slowly becoming more common in high profile fights.
This is all a moot discussion anyway. There are a million threads online on this very topic and I don't want to get into another one since i've been through several in boxing forums. Just search the facts, not opinions, and make your own opinion.
I don't think Floyd would fight Garcia but there really are no more high profile fights for him that could pose any sort of challenge. Floyd just clowned the guy at 154. Fighting a guy coming up in weight wouldn't be much of a challenge. Who else is there for Floyd to fight between 140 and 154? The only fighter I can think of is Pacquiao, or Floyd goes up to middleweight. |
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Beeyee
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| Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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One judge scored the bout 114-114 
What the hell was he watching? Complete and utter domination from Floyd. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Beeyee wrote: |
One judge scored the bout 114-114
What the hell was he watching? Complete and utter domination from Floyd. |
The judge was C.J. Ross and SHE was also the idiot who scored in favor of Timothy Bradley when he fought Pac-man.
How ridiculous that she was able to judge another fight. |
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12ax7
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| Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| Well, Floyd embarrasses yet another boxer, this time Saul Alvarez. Floyd's next opponent seems to be Danny Garcia but hopefully a more high profile fighter can be found since Floyd has dominated his last several fights. |
Actually, he's embarrassed two boxers since he was escorted to the ring by Justin Bieber and Lil Wayne. |
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Yaya
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| Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| Well, Floyd embarrasses yet another boxer, this time Saul Alvarez. Floyd's next opponent seems to be Danny Garcia but hopefully a more high profile fighter can be found since Floyd has dominated his last several fights. |
Actually, he's embarrassed two boxers since he was escorted to the ring by Justin Bieber and Lil Wayne. |
I remember Bieber came out with Pac-man in one of his fights, and now he's picked sides with Floyd. Oh bruddah. |
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