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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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 Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:44 pm Post subject: Trudeau and China's basic dictatorship |
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Quick explanation of who he is: Trudeau is the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, so possibly the next prime minister in two years.
His quote on China:
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When asked which country Mr. Trudeau most admired, his answer was...China and their "basic dictatorship."
According to Sun News reporter David Akin, Mr. Trudeau's exact words were:
"You know, there’s a level of of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say ‘we need to go green fastest…we need to start investing in solar.’ I mean there is a flexibility that I know Stephen Harper must dream about of having a dictatorship that he can do everything he wanted that I find quite interesting. |
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Titus
Joined: 19 May 2012
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:34 am Post subject: |
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If the Chinese government were properly named and described in Western media JT would be in much more trouble. It is not communist. It is an ethno-nationalist, majority-supremicist and ..... fascist! JT and I are on the same page! It's the National Socialist Party of the Han People. That's a better name.
Anyway, all politicians fantasize about an absence of barriers to their ideas. JT wants to go "green" and "invest in solar" but the political forces prevent the pace he desires. Really nothing new here. What is interesting is that he's so thick headed and isolated that he thinks he can say this openly. If you'd only ever had friends/acquaintances from government you might be a bit disassociated from mainline values. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Since Trudeau also cited his nemesis Stephen Harper as a likely admirer of China, we can probably assume that his comments were meant facetiously. Or at least, with an acknowldgement that China is not really the kind of county he would admire.
And any Conservative protests about Trudeau's comments would be a little ironic right now...
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Harper Tories embrace Marxist hero Dr. Norman Bethune as Canada seeks closer ties with China
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As I noted on this thread, it was under the Liberals, led by Justin's dad Pierre, that Bethune was entered into the officially sanctioned canon of Canadian heroes. This attracted a bit of scorn from anti-Communist Conservatives. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Some more context...
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His prime minister father, the late Pierre Elliott Trudeau, was sometimes accused of a predilection for communist authoritarian regimes. According to Bob Plamondon’s recent book, The Truth About Trudeau, the elder Mr. Trudeau was complimentary toward several leftist regimes in his day, including Soviet Russia, Fidel Castro’s Cuba and China under Chairman Mao.
In 1952, Mr. Trudeau travelled to China with members of the Communist Party of Canada. Later, he supported the Soviet-dominated authorities who imposed martial law in Poland. He also admired the Siberian city of Norilsk until a Soviet dissident reminded him that the town had been built by prison labour.
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I think writers like Plamondon seriously exaggerate how pro-Communist Trudeau sr. was in actual practice. He kept Canada in NATO, tested American cruise missiles, and assisted Canadian companies in getting US military contracts during the Vietnam War. And I don't think he "supported martial-law in Poland" so much as he refused to condemn it, just like he refused to comment on American foreign-policy.
But, he maintained polite relations with Castro, and let in American draft-dodgers, so that was enough to condemn him as a Communist in the mind of the rabid-right. Justin might have wanted to consider this history before making his recent comments, though I don't think they will have much lasting impact. |
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Ralph Winfield
Joined: 23 Apr 2013
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| Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:34 am Post subject: Re: Trudeau and China's basic dictatorship |
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| mithridates wrote: |
Quick explanation of who he is: Trudeau is the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, so possibly the next prime minister in two years.
His quote on China:
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When asked which country Mr. Trudeau most admired, his answer was...China and their "basic dictatorship."
According to Sun News reporter David Akin, Mr. Trudeau's exact words were:
"You know, there’s a level of of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say ‘we need to go green fastest…we need to start investing in solar.’ I mean there is a flexibility that I know Stephen Harper must dream about of having a dictatorship that he can do everything he wanted that I find quite interesting. |
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Hanged with Pierre Eliot Trudeau in a Montreal hotel located near College Street in late January of 1996. Cool guy for sure, and ho did not give me crap for being a citizen of The United States of America. I asked him to smoke with me. He said, " Uh, my bodyguard might object..."
Ted Danson from the Cheers comedy was 2 metres away from Ex-Prime Minister Trudeau. Ted did not inhale that night. |
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