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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
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| I don't think that referring to someone by "Ms. Park" or whatever and bringing up stuff about their interest or use of cosmetics has anything to do with the discussion. Sorry, but if you have to resort to those kinds of things to make your point, then at some level you probably know your argument has holes. |
Not everything posted on here has to be a dissertation does it? You fools need to lighten up. Heck, go treat yourselves to a $20 burger on the way to the skin care shop. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:03 am Post subject: |
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I don't think that referring to someone by "Ms. Park" or whatever and bringing up stuff about their interest or use of cosmetics has anything to do with the discussion. Sorry, but if you have to resort to those kinds of things to make your point, then at some level you probably know your argument has holes.
Regardless, I'm sorry Korean merchants try to maximize their profits instead of maximizing yours.
Do you think English education is overpriced? Isn't that an example of "greed"? I personally don't, but I always find it weird that everyone thinks that everyone else but themselves charges too much for their services.
Why do I get the sneaking suspicion that if certain people had never set foot outside their country, they would be ranting about how "greedy" the companies are back home? You could charge them a nickel for a Big Mac and if the price went up to 8 cents, they'd scream about greed.
You don't have to be rich or a merchant to be greedy. Consumers can be greedy too. |
Thank you for not getting either the argument or the joke.
As for education in Korea, it's, unfortunately, more of an industry than a method of ennobling and uplifting people. I do believe that many of the people working in it, both foreigners and Koreans, are in it only for the money and considering what they (over)charge are greedy.
BTW, you might think of paying someone to teach you how to stick to the point. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Ms. Park, why the mendacity? The 2012 is gone and the regular price for the 2013 is $169.95. It seems you need both math and reading refresher courses. |
You brought up the jacket for comparison, and it disproves your point. Both the 2012 and the 2013 jackets are more expensive than the one you bought in Korea.
As I said, some products are cheaper in the US, not all products. I have found some products cheaper in Korea, as have you. But, to address your original post as you were so desperate to do when you were in the full swings of dementia, no one was buying washing machines in the US, shipping them to Korea, and saving so much money that it was worth it. You've failed to provide any evidence to support that. Any time you'd like to, feel free, until then, continue your break down, it's absolutely hilarious. |
You can't buy the 2012 jacket; it's been discontinued. That's why this old merchandise was on sale in Korea and at 50% off was still almost as expensive as the current model in the U.S., while the current model isn't even available in Korea. But they're still selling the 2012 Assos models at full price, so you, Ms. Park, can have the satisfaction of overpaying.
As for the washing machines, which has got you spinning round and round (get it?), talk to the people who bought them. That's how I found out about it and I'm sorry but I'm not going to give you their phone numbers so you can harass them.
But something's happening, Ms. Park, and you don't know know what it is.
But I'll give you a clue: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/special/2011/11/182_99556.html |
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Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| Regarding the importing TV update. I've heard that the US Korean shipping companies have stopped accepting orders to ship TVs as Koreans bought too many of them during Black Friday/Cyber Monday (around 1500 orders to ship their TVs back to Korea). |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| You can't buy the 2012 jacket; it's been discontinued. That's why this old merchandise was on sale in Korea and at 50% off was still almost as expensive as the current model in the U.S., while the current model isn't even available in Korea. But they're still selling the 2012 Assos models at full price, so you, Ms. Park, can have the satisfaction of overpaying. |
Awww muffin, another lie?
You mean This one that seems to look identical to the one you linked as this year's model? With the right credit card, you're looking at a price that is more more or less identical to the US one by the time you include shipping.
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| As for the washing machines, which has got you spinning round and round (get it?), talk to the people who bought them. That's how I found out about it and I'm sorry but I'm not going to give you their phone numbers so you can harass them. |
What year did you talk to these people? are they time travellers too? Are you sure they were even in Korea? Between the dementia and other flights of fancy you've engaged upon in this thread, you'll forgive me for not taking your word. I'll trust the site which clearly states that the washing machines can't be sent to Korea, and the prices of washing machines in Korea. Unless they got the washing machines for $1 with free shipping, they didn't save any money.
As far as the article, reshipping companies have been available for a long time, and retailers in the US now shipping overseas, who cares? They almost always ship via fedex or something incredibly expensive, and you might as well ship with the already existing reshipping service. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:27 am Post subject: |
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Not everything posted on here has to be a dissertation does it? You fools need to lighten up. Heck, go treat yourselves to a $20 burger on the way to the skin care shop. |
Jokes are ones where you laugh with, not at other people.
Regardless there was a tone in that that came from a place of racism, sexism, and homophobia.
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As for education in Korea, it's, unfortunately, more of an industry than a method of ennobling and uplifting people. I do believe that many of the people working in it, both foreigners and Koreans, are in it only for the money and considering what they (over)charge are greedy.
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I think that's pretty much what its devolved into the world around, unless you live in some fantasy land.
And would you ever dare to include yourself in that list of people only in it for the money and greedy?
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| BTW, you might think of paying someone to teach you how to stick to the point. |
The point is greed, and what the basis is for calling someone greedy. I don't see you ranting on the greediness of NETs in Korea. Seems that the important thing is the ethnicity of the greedy, not greed itself.
And what about people from countries other than Korea who buy stuff on Black Friday? Is their country or culture greedy? I'm sure at least some Canadians and Brits bought SOMETHING on Black Friday online. Does that mean that Canadian and British merchants are greedy? What about Americans who buy stuff from international sellers and import it? Does that mean that American merchants are greedy?
It seems your focus is on ethnicity, not greed. |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Jokes are ones where you laugh with, not at other people.
Regardless there was a tone in that that came from a place of racism, sexism, and homophobia. |
Nice try, dude. You are wrong on all counts. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
Jokes are ones where you laugh with, not at other people.
Regardless there was a tone in that that came from a place of racism, sexism, and homophobia. |
Nice try, dude. You are wrong on all counts. |
He (steel) is clearly wrong on 2 counts. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| You can't buy the 2012 jacket; it's been discontinued. That's why this old merchandise was on sale in Korea and at 50% off was still almost as expensive as the current model in the U.S., while the current model isn't even available in Korea. But they're still selling the 2012 Assos models at full price, so you, Ms. Park, can have the satisfaction of overpaying. |
Awww muffin, another lie?
You mean This one that seems to look identical to the one you linked as this year's model? With the right credit card, you're looking at a price that is more more or less identical to the US one by the time you include shipping.
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| As for the washing machines, which has got you spinning round and round (get it?), talk to the people who bought them. That's how I found out about it and I'm sorry but I'm not going to give you their phone numbers so you can harass them. |
What year did you talk to these people? are they time travellers too? Are you sure they were even in Korea? Between the dementia and other flights of fancy you've engaged upon in this thread, you'll forgive me for not taking your word. I'll trust the site which clearly states that the washing machines can't be sent to Korea, and the prices of washing machines in Korea. Unless they got the washing machines for $1 with free shipping, they didn't save any money.
As far as the article, reshipping companies have been available for a long time, and retailers in the US now shipping overseas, who cares? They almost always ship via fedex or something incredibly expensive, and you might as well ship with the already existing reshipping service. |
Black Friday, 2013, Ms. Park. Is your memory troubling you?
Trust who you like, Ms. Park. But people are ordering from those sites, and they are saving money even with shipping and customs. That's why it's news.
(Don't tell me you've already forgotten about the free shipping BC card is offering? Is that why you keep bringing up dementia, this memory loss problem of yours? I hope you can get some medical help for that in Korea.) |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| byrddogs wrote: |
Not everything posted on here has to be a dissertation does it? You fools need to lighten up. Heck, go treat yourselves to a $20 burger on the way to the skin care shop. |
Jokes are ones where you laugh with, not at other people.
Regardless there was a tone in that that came from a place of racism, sexism, and homophobia.
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As for education in Korea, it's, unfortunately, more of an industry than a method of ennobling and uplifting people. I do believe that many of the people working in it, both foreigners and Koreans, are in it only for the money and considering what they (over)charge are greedy.
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I think that's pretty much what its devolved into the world around, unless you live in some fantasy land.
And would you ever dare to include yourself in that list of people only in it for the money and greedy?
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| BTW, you might think of paying someone to teach you how to stick to the point. |
The point is greed, and what the basis is for calling someone greedy. I don't see you ranting on the greediness of NETs in Korea. Seems that the important thing is the ethnicity of the greedy, not greed itself.
And what about people from countries other than Korea who buy stuff on Black Friday? Is their country or culture greedy? I'm sure at least some Canadians and Brits bought SOMETHING on Black Friday online. Does that mean that Canadian and British merchants are greedy? What about Americans who buy stuff from international sellers and import it? Does that mean that American merchants are greedy?
It seems your focus is on ethnicity, not greed. |
Damn straight Canada was an expensive place, at least Vancouver was when I visited there. I haven't been to the UK. But this is a forum about life in Korea.
Your analogies are, per sr SOP. wrong. Americans normally import things they can't get in the U.S. since with the weak dollar and customs those items will likely be more expensive that a similar product available in the U.S. There are, of course exceptions, such a grey market items, that you'll try and harp on, but those are the exception and just more sr red herrings.
As for NETS being greedy, I'd say the reverse. Korean schools hire under-qualified persons such as yourself rather than paying what it would take to get certified teachers. They then "sell" those same teachers as qualified when they are obviously not.
You're also wrong about education and the motivations of those involved in it, at least in the U.S. There are a great many people there who see education as a calling, unlike in Korea where it's a "stable" job. Korea is a very materialistic society where everything usually comes down to money.
Play the racism card all you like, facts are facts. Homophobia, though, is you clutching at straws because you don't have a ready apology at hand. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| (Don't tell me you've already forgotten about the free shipping BC card is offering? Is that why you keep bringing up dementia, this memory loss problem of yours? I hope you can get some medical help for that in Korea.) |
I remember it, but you can't get free shipping on something that can't be shipped to Korea. Even with free shipping, the jacket was cheaper in Korea. As are other things, like a large Lego set a friend wanted to get for their nephew today. I fully expected it to be cheaper in the states, but Gmarket (without any special coupons or credit cards) has it about 5% cheaper than Amazon, not even counting shipping. Of course we could trade anecdotal examples all day and you'd start wandering off into fantasy land before long again.
and again, there was no mention of washing machines in the news, just your own little personal pipe dream.
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| Damn straight Canada was an expensive place, at least Vancouver was when I visited there. I haven't been to the UK. But this is a forum about life in Korea. |
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| You're also wrong about education and the motivations of those involved in it, at least in the U.S. There are a great many people there who see education as a calling, |
Which is it hypocrite?
Or is it only okay for people to make comparisons to other countries when you're that person making the comparison?
the missteps just multiply.. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| As for NETS being greedy, I'd say the reverse. Korean schools hire under-qualified persons such as yourself rather than paying what it would take to get certified teachers. They then "sell" those same teachers as qualified when they are obviously not. |
What about the NETs that sell themselves as qualified when they obviously are not? "Open-minded" "works well with others" and other BS on their resume? So NETs don't regularly experience the emotion of greed? Are they immune to the impulses of man? NETs aren't greedy if they charge 50,000 won for some lame privates?
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| You're also wrong about education and the motivations of those involved in it, at least in the U.S. There are a great many people there who see education as a calling, unlike in Korea where it's a "stable" job. Korea is a very materialistic society where everything usually comes down to money. |
Yes, because its not like teachers in the US are burned out, cynical over No Child Left Behind, just trying not to get sued, enjoying tenure, and so on.
After all the reason they are so passionate about education is the reason we have 150 dollar textbooks in college and the whole racket that goes on there. Skyrocketing tuition costs? The student loan racket? And of course everyone goes to college because they are deeply interested in the pursuit of higher education, not just because they want to get a good job and party a bunch.
Give me a break man. Do you actually believe the tripe you sometimes try to pitch? You can make a fine counterargument without having to resort to fantasyland claims about how Koreans are a bunch of greedy connivers whereas NETs and westerners are noble types, exploited by their Korean employers, fresh from their diligent academic studies in the bastion of greed-free academia that is the American university.
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| Play the racism card all you like, facts are facts. |
But when you aren't stating facts, as you clearly aren't to anyone with half a clue about the American education system, while demonizing Koreans, then yes, the bigotry card is a fair one to play.
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| Homophobia, though, is you clutching at straws because you don't have a ready apology at hand. |
Then why do you care whether people use cosmetics or not? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Did you post the wrong link for the amazon one? I ask because I clicked on it and it says
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Whereas the link for the other one says $502.
Again I'm not seeing this price gouging going on. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| (Don't tell me you've already forgotten about the free shipping BC card is offering? Is that why you keep bringing up dementia, this memory loss problem of yours? I hope you can get some medical help for that in Korea.) |
I remember it, but you can't get free shipping on something that can't be shipped to Korea. Even with free shipping, the jacket was cheaper in Korea. As are other things, like a large Lego set a friend wanted to get for their nephew today. I fully expected it to be cheaper in the states, but Gmarket (without any special coupons or credit cards) has it about 5% cheaper than Amazon, not even counting shipping. Of course we could trade anecdotal examples all day and you'd start wandering off into fantasy land before long again.
and again, there was no mention of washing machines in the news, just your own little personal pipe dream.
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| Damn straight Canada was an expensive place, at least Vancouver was when I visited there. I haven't been to the UK. But this is a forum about life in Korea. |
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| You're also wrong about education and the motivations of those involved in it, at least in the U.S. There are a great many people there who see education as a calling, |
Which is it hypocrite?
Or is it only okay for people to make comparisons to other countries when you're that person making the comparison?
the missteps just multiply.. |
Ms. Park, you're so lost I've not idea what you're going on about.
As for that Lego set, I bet it's not the same one. Apples to apples, Ms. Park, is a fundamental necessity when making comparisons. Try and remember that. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| As for NETS being greedy, I'd say the reverse. Korean schools hire under-qualified persons such as yourself rather than paying what it would take to get certified teachers. They then "sell" those same teachers as qualified when they are obviously not. |
What about the NETs that sell themselves as qualified when they obviously are not? "Open-minded" "works well with others" and other BS on their resume? So NETs don't regularly experience the emotion of greed? Are they immune to the impulses of man? NETs aren't greedy if they charge 50,000 won for some lame privates?
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| You're also wrong about education and the motivations of those involved in it, at least in the U.S. There are a great many people there who see education as a calling, unlike in Korea where it's a "stable" job. Korea is a very materialistic society where everything usually comes down to money. |
Yes, because its not like teachers in the US are burned out, cynical over No Child Left Behind, just trying not to get sued, enjoying tenure, and so on.
After all the reason they are so passionate about education is the reason we have 150 dollar textbooks in college and the whole racket that goes on there. Skyrocketing tuition costs? The student loan racket? And of course everyone goes to college because they are deeply interested in the pursuit of higher education, not just because they want to get a good job and party a bunch.
Give me a break man. Do you actually believe the tripe you sometimes try to pitch? You can make a fine counterargument without having to resort to fantasyland claims about how Koreans are a bunch of greedy connivers whereas NETs and westerners are noble types, exploited by their Korean employers, fresh from their diligent academic studies in the bastion of greed-free academia that is the American university.
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| Play the racism card all you like, facts are facts. |
But when you aren't stating facts, as you clearly aren't to anyone with half a clue about the American education system, while demonizing Koreans, then yes, the bigotry card is a fair one to play.
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| Homophobia, though, is you clutching at straws because you don't have a ready apology at hand. |
Then why do you care whether people use cosmetics or not? |
You're going round and round like a blind rabbit.
And again and again you twist any argument you disagree with. Conniving is a perfect description of your posts.
I've never mentioned a thing about cosmetics. You're as confused as Ms. Park, blind rabbit.
Your comments about education have nothing to do with what motivates people to enter that field, which is not because, as in Korea, it is considered the perfect job for females.
How many shootings have their been in American schools just this year? And yet, American teachers dutifully go to work even though their lives are, to some degree, at risk. That's dedication to something you believe in, blind rabbit.
Back on topic: Korean prices are sky high, and that you cannot deny. |
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