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NYC_Gal 2.0
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The onus is on you to prove that it's illegal.
Nobody filed any papers or went into court. Giving advice is not the same as practicing law, dearie. Nobody charged a fee, nor did anyone claim to be a lawyer. Knowing laws and sharing that information is not illegal.
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:19 am Post subject: |
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By giving out legal advice he violates the law because he does not have a law license nor has he passed the Korean bar. |
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No one said a person had to a have a law degree we are talking about giving legal advice and I have not found one statute that permits that action without a license.
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I'm going to call you Goldfish, after your memory. |
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Hokie21
Joined: 01 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| archaeologist5 wrote: |
By giving out legal advice he violates the law because he does not have a law license nor has he passed the Korean bar. |
| archaeologist5 wrote: |
No one said a person had to a have a law degree we are talking about giving legal advice and I have not found one statute that permits that action without a license.
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I'm going to call you Goldfish, after your memory. |
What in the heck is wrong with this guy? He's either a really good troll or seriously unstable....possibly even dangerously so. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:26 am Post subject: |
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While accusing others of practicing law without a license simply because those others advise being honest, archaeologist5 is--going by his definition--also practicing law without a license; however, his advice is horrible: lie. That's not surprising as archaeologist5 is a well-known basher of foreigners in Korea and a proven liar. He's no friend of NETs and one would follow his advice at their own peril.
As always, one should do the honest thing. The application for the EPIK program is like any other application: check "yes" or "no" for the things that apply and "N/A" for those that do not apply. Starting out your career in Korea by fibbing on the application may not be a complete recipe for disaster, but it sure can be one of the primary ingredients.
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Bondrock
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| Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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1. Don't lie on official documents. You don't have to consult with a lawyer to understand this basic advice.
2. Never trust the advice of anyone who has conversations with a toy beaver named Mr. McGillicuddy.
3. Check #1 and #2, then rinse and repeat. |
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bmwendt
Joined: 13 Dec 2013
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| Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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When I asked what I thought was a pretty straight forward question, never did I think I would start this odd conversation.
I thank you all for the suggestions. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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EPIK certainly used to allow pets at intake & orientation but I guess as competition for positions heated up they started officially prohibiting anything that even remotely hinted at creating issues.
Meanwhile, I'd guess half the EPIK teachers in my district have taken on pets. Schools & education offices really have no idea what national EPIK proscribes if its not in the contract, nor do they care. Small pets are fine by the vast majority of Korean landlords. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Fine. We're giving "life advice" and some of that life advice pertains to the law. There's a lawyer's wiggle.
Is it against the law to say "Don't shoot that 6 month old baby, you'll go to jail!" Is that legal advice sir? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| archaeologist5 wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| It's legal to give out law advice without a law degree. It may not be advisable to follow said law advice, however. |
No one said a person had to a have a law degree we are talking about giving legal advice and I have not found one statute that permits that action without a license.
so please post the statutes (in English) that support your point. |
It's legal to give out advice. It's illegal to charge for said advice. FLC, for example, cannot practice here in Korea. They can, however, advise. I've worked in some of the biggest law offices in Seoul - and that's how they roll.
You, however, work in a hogwon. And are certainly not FLC. Unless you are now adding that to your list of claimed credentials. lol
Once again, you're talking about stuff you know little about. You just call out Cali for giving out "legal advice", yet you're doing the same thing - and advising dishonesty! A lie by omission, is still a lie. |
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Hokie21
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When I asked what I thought was a pretty straight forward question, never did I think I would start this odd conversation.
I thank you all for the suggestions. |
This thread is no longer about you, either enjoy the show or move along. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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| Hokie21 wrote: |
| bmwendt wrote: |
When I asked what I thought was a pretty straight forward question, never did I think I would start this odd conversation.
I thank you all for the suggestions. |
This thread is no longer about you, either enjoy the show or move along. |
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archaeologist5
Joined: 25 Dec 2013
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| Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| Bondrock wrote: |
1. Don't lie on official documents. You don't have to consult with a lawyer to understand this basic advice.
2. Never trust the advice of anyone who has conversations with a toy beaver named Mr. McGillicuddy.
3. Check #1 and #2, then rinse and repeat. |
is this the same bondrock from idiots? Amazing to see what you say to me in private and what you say in public. |
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archaeologist5
Joined: 25 Dec 2013
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When I asked what I thought was a pretty straight forward question, never did I think I would start this odd conversation.
I thank you all for the suggestions. |
When you post on this website or the other ones for English teacher sin Korea, expect to get a lot of weird answers. When I said to leave the spot blank and talk to your recruiter I didn't pull that answer out of my rear.
It is what you need to do. If you say you agree to the no pets and you bring your dog then you have violated that part of the agreement and leave yourself vulnerable to disciplinary action.
If you leave it blank then you will not violate anything if you bring your dog, you remained silent in hopes of getting more discussion on the issue. I have never heard of anyone having problems with EPIK about dogs but you just have to be careful how you answer the questions.
It is similar to the self-medical report, if you lie you could get into trouble and if you tell the truth you may not get a job. It is a very difficult situation and you should talk to your recruiter they can contact EPIk for you and get things straightened out where you do not put false information on the paperwork.
Bringing your dog is a good thing and you will be glad you did. I normally do not go into so much details on here or other boards as there are a myriad of people who will disagree and through out all sorts of responses because they do not know how to deal with these situations.
Their training is not in law, contracts nor what can be done in these situations. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| You're giving legal advice, Goldfish. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
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| Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:41 am Post subject: |
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No you are wrong again. Cali's whole post is completely wrong and you can ignore him. He is not a lawyer and he cannot give out any legal or contractural advice.
By giving out legal advice he violates the law because he does not have a law license nor has he passed the Korean bar. |
| archaeologist5 wrote: |
When you post on this website or the other ones for English teacher sin Korea, expect to get a lot of weird answers. When I said to leave the spot blank and talk to your recruiter I didn't pull that answer out of my rear.
It is what you need to do. If you say you agree to the no pets and you bring your dog then you have violated that part of the agreement and leave yourself vulnerable to disciplinary action.
If you leave it blank then you will not violate anything if you bring your dog, you remained silent in hopes of getting more discussion on the issue. I have never heard of anyone having problems with EPIK about dogs but you just have to be careful how you answer the questions.
It is similar to the self-medical report, if you lie you could get into trouble and if you tell the truth you may not get a job. It is a very difficult situation and you should talk to your recruiter they can contact EPIk for you and get things straightened out where you do not put false information on the paperwork.
Bringing your dog is a good thing and you will be glad you did. I normally do not go into so much details on here or other boards as there are a myriad of people who will disagree and through out all sorts of responses because they do not know how to deal with these situations.
Their training is not in law, contracts nor what can be done in these situations. |
| archaeologist5 wrote: |
| No one said a person had to a have a law degree we are talking about giving legal advice and I have not found one statute that permits that action without a license. |
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