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| Complete this Sentence: I belive a Union of Foreign E.F.L. Instructors in Korea is: |
| A) a great idea, I am surprised no one has thought of it before. |
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| B) a great idea, worth exploring. |
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| C) a good idea, but alas, impossible. |
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| D) an impossible dream, but a good dream. |
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| E) wrong. Professionals should have associations and not unions. |
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| F) crazy. How can contracted professionals form a union. |
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| G) impossible, at least until Korean Teachers are unionized. |
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| H) stupid. Why would I want to make life an easier for Newbies |
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| I) Will fail unless that loveable illiterate rascal panthermodern is in charge. |
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panthermodern
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Taxronto
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 Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:48 am Post subject: Union Poll |
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Well, lets flog a dead horse.
Any other possible responces ? |
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kimcheeking
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:57 am Post subject: |
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yeah whatever, great idea but not logistically possible with immigration laws etc.
anyhow I vote for panthermodern running the show. |
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Rand Al Thor
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Locked in an epic struggle
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| Wasn't this topic beaten to death on the old board? |
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panthermodern
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Taxronto
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 7:38 am Post subject: Hey Rand |
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Hey Rand what topic has NOT been beaten to death ...
Sorry I read a "Why don't we form/have a union" thread today, as I do every six months and I thought I would have my very own poll. Cool huh ... sure beats what is a "What is your favorite (blank)" poll, does it not. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Well, I thought about this.
It would take the formal organization of an association first and foremost. Who'se gonna do it?
Secondly, there would have to be some form of income for this group. Then it gets political because we would have to elect the "superiors".
Then there is red tape, more politics...etc. etc.
We would have to form an opinion on major items. I have seen how people (including myself) do not let an arguement die.
Even IF we all got together and formed something, there would be too many chiefs and not enough indians.
In principle, a good idea.
In practice....not so good.. |
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mack the knife
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: standing right behind you...
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 1:53 am Post subject: |
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you guys have totally missed the point! the "union" is simply an excuse for us to get together and have a molotov tossing contest! forget these once a month "bar" get-together things....how dull!!
(((nudge-nudge))) |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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O.K. judging by the VAST variety of responses, it is clear that a union would never fly.
Too many differences in opinion and there would be a severe lack or organization.
Like a chicken with his head cut off... |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| Turnover is too high. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:35 am Post subject: |
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| Wouldn't a union take all the fun out of working in Korea? |
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ExpatriateJoe
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:53 am Post subject: People Are So Serious... Not! |
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| I can see people are so serious.... not. Another example of classic example of apathy! |
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ExpatriateJoe
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:54 am Post subject: Check Out EFL-LAW.COM For The Goods On This Issue |
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| Surprise... surprise... we are allowed to form a union/association. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:59 am Post subject: |
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If current laws don't allow non-residents to join a union then, to quote whoever, 'the law's an ass'.
God knows a union for foreign teachers is begging to be set up here.
I'd pay union dues if my interests were to be protected. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Derrek wrote: |
| Turnover is too high. |
Yes, this is another major reason why it won't work.
In theory it's a good idea, but anyone trying to get a union off the ground is seriously wasting their energy.
If someone came up with a VIABLE way to do it...(legal as well), I would help. (sucker for punishment methinks) |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Wouldn't the best way to handle the turnover issue be to not allow first-timers to Korea to enter it?
Not that that's easy in and of itself to set up, but yea. Plus, it would defeat the purpose of a, uh, union. I think. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
Wouldn't the best way to handle the turnover issue be to not allow first-timers to Korea to enter it?
Not that that's easy in and of itself to set up, but yea. Plus, it would defeat the purpose of a, uh, union. I think. |
No, because then you are in a situation where those who truly need help the most don't get any at all..  |
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