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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| edwardcatflap wrote: |
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No no all nationalities are as proud.
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I assume you're being ironic here. . |
I'd like to claim that...but to be honest that was a typo (the second "no" should have read "not").
Sorry my bad. |
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byrddogs

Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:24 am Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| TEH LINK IZ OLD BRAH |
What? A link from 5 and a half years ago about a study that was last conducted in 2003 isn't current enough? |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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There is nothing Korean about K-pop. It's just the worst of Western boy bands and girl bands. Since the West no longer has these, Koreans have appropriated the genre, sang the songs in Korean, and got the boys to dress up like girls. This makes it a 100 percent Korean product, completely independent of Western pop and uniquely Korean.
Truth be told, when they express such pride in K-pop they are, in effect, expressing pride in a Western cultural form. In the past when I have pointed this out to adult students I get, "No, K-pop is different. It's not like Western pop. It's very different." And you can't argue with them or they get angry and accuse you of not respecting "Korean culture". I begin to restate that it's not Korean culture, that it's a foreign product with a slice of kimchi added, and that it is also a very recent importation...hence it's absurd to insist it's a 'Korean' product, and insane to take so much pride in it as a Korean product, ........but I realize where I am and decide it's not worth the effort.
I just keep telling myself that this is a country that insists the Christmas Tree originated in Korea.  |
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EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
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Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| Pop tends to be an amalgamation of music from various cultures, and sometimes regional differences or styles can be pronounced or subtle. I think K-pop is a legitimately distinct product, similar to how Southern rock has a distinct flavor. |
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Ginormousaurus

Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit
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Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
I just keep telling myself that this is a country that insists the Christmas Tree originated in Korea.  |
This is the first time in ten years on this forum that I have heard this claim. I don't believe that a significant portion of the locals think this. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
I just keep telling myself that this is a country that insists the Christmas Tree originated in Korea. |
You're in Korea because......what other jobs are there out there for you. Right? |
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optik404

Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
There is nothing Korean about K-pop. It's just the worst of Western boy bands and girl bands. Since the West no longer has these, Koreans have appropriated the genre, sang the songs in Korean, and got the boys to dress up like girls. This makes it a 100 percent Korean product, completely independent of Western pop and uniquely Korean.
Truth be told, when they express such pride in K-pop they are, in effect, expressing pride in a Western cultural form. In the past when I have pointed this out to adult students I get, "No, K-pop is different. It's not like Western pop. It's very different." And you can't argue with them or they get angry and accuse you of not respecting "Korean culture". I begin to restate that it's not Korean culture, that it's a foreign product with a slice of kimchi added, and that it is also a very recent importation...hence it's absurd to insist it's a 'Korean' product, and insane to take so much pride in it as a Korean product, ........but I realize where I am and decide it's not worth the effort.
I just keep telling myself that this is a country that insists the Christmas Tree originated in Korea.  |
You wrote the exact same thing on page one of this thread. Don't you get tired of whining about the same complaints? |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| optik404 wrote: |
| Don't you get tired of whining about the same complaints? |
Don't you get tired of whining about the whiners?
I do. I mean, it's tiresome to listen to posts (by you, young_clinton, etc.) that add nothing to the discussion.
UP UR GAME BRAH |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
I just keep telling myself that this is a country that insists the Christmas Tree originated in Korea.  |
Sorry, any sources on that? I've NEVER heard it here. Never.
In fact, they're aren't all that popular in Korean homes. |
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