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Ok for boyfriend to live in apartment provided by school?
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
archaeologist5 wrote:

Actually, it is NOT her apartment, it is the school's. It is their business who lives there. They are paying for it.


So if they are paying for a teacher - do they now BELONG to that school?

Such a distorted way of looking at things, Archie.

If the school is providing the apartment as part of the payment of services, then no, it does not BELONG to the school to do with as they wish. Just like it is not ok for an owner of an apt to "do as they wish" with it, if they're rented it out.

I own an apt that I rent out and can tell you - tenants have rights. Don't kid yourself.

Or is it ok for schools to break contracts, but not teachers?

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crescent



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'll rephrase:
It's no one's business who you have living with you in the apartment
Please explain how you know the school owns the apartment? Also, explain how you know what provisions are in the contract regarding guests.

archaeologist5 wrote:
So you appoint yourself to a position that you were not suppose to have. How quaint.

I'm not appointing myself to any position. I'm providing information that can be corroborated by at least 12 other people on this board alone.
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archaeologist5



Joined: 25 Dec 2013
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Such a distorted way of looking at things, Archie.


There is no distortion, unless the school does something different it is their name that goes on the lease. The contract is between the landlord/owner and the school, not the landlord/owner and the westerner.

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the school is providing the apartment as part of the payment of services, then no, it does not BELONG to the school to do with as they wish. Just like it is not ok for an owner of an apt to "do as they wish" with it, if they're rented it out.

I own an apt that I rent out and can tell you - tenants have rights. Don't kid yourself.


The lease/contract i sin the name of the school and most likely the name of the person who is residing in the apartment will be given to the landlord/owner if a person resides in the apartment whose name does not appear in the official records, and if the school is not told about it, then there can be problems. That new person doesn't belong in the apartment.

The school has every right to do something about it. The tenant has rights but those rights do not include moving in someone who is not on the lease or has no permission to live there.

You are a dishonest person in your representation of what westerners can or cannot do.
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archaeologist5



Joined: 25 Dec 2013
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
crescent wrote:
I'll rephrase:
It's no one's business who you have living with you in the apartment.


It is the school's business as they did not grant the westerner permission to move anyone in who was not listed in the contract or the tenant lease. You have a lot to learn.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
archaeologist5 wrote:


The lease/contract i sin the name of the school and most likely the name of the person who is residing in the apartment will be given to the landlord/owner if a person resides in the apartment whose name does not appear in the official records, and if the school is not told about it, then there can be problems. That new person doesn't belong in the apartment.

The school has every right to do something about it. The tenant has rights but those rights do not include moving in someone who is not on the lease or has no permission to live there.

You are a dishonest person in your representation of what westerners can or cannot do.


Again, you're wrong. If I rent my apt to Mr Kim, and Ms Park moves in with him, I have no legal right to kick them out. Even though Ms Kim is not on the lease agreement, she can still reside there. You're confused as to what is a violation of a contract.

First off, you have no idea as to the contract in question - the OP. Correct?
As well, any contract is only as valid as its ability to remain within the construct of the law - that is, no contract can violate the law. So, you can make any clauses in a contract you want, but it's not enforceable if it's in violation of the law.

Westerners can do pretty much whatever Koreans can do here - depending on the limitations of their status in Korea. You seem to revel in telling Westerners what they should and shouldn't do here, but last time I checked, you had no authority - kind of like when you tried to tell me about the CBC and parental rights - wrong as always.

Your schtick worked in your lame letters to the KT, but they don't fly here under scrutiny.


archaeologist5 wrote:
crescent wrote:
I'll rephrase:
It's no one's business who you have living with you in the apartment.


It is the school's business as they did not grant the westerner permission to move anyone in who was not listed in the contract or the tenant lease. You have a lot to learn.


No. That'd be you.
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archaeologist5



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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gain, you're wrong. If I rent my apt to Mr Kim, and Ms Park moves in with him, I have no legal right to kick them out. Even though Ms Kim is not on the lease agreement, she can still reside there. You're confused as to what is a violation of a contract.
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Again your dishonesty undermines you. You word isn't good enough. My experience with rentals n Korea says otherwise.

I do not think you have a very good knowledge of the law and how it applies.
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archaeologist5



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
P.S. here is the link to the English Version of the Korean Housing Act and notice it does not forbid the restriction of tenants in an apartment

http://www.moleg.go.kr/english/korLawEng?pstSeq=52752&brdSeq=33&pageIndex=36

click on the word 'file' and on page 22 it reads


Article 32 (Standard Lease Agreement, etc.)
(1) A person who intends to enter into a lease contract on rental housing shall use the
standard lease agreement as prescribed by the Ordinance of the Ministry of Land,
Transport and Maritime Affairs.
(2) The standard lease agreement under section (1) shall include the matters of the
following subsections:
1. Rental deposit;
2. Rent;
3. Period of lease contract;
4. Matters on the rights and obligations of a rental business operator and a lessee;
5. Matters on the repair, maintenance and mending of rental housing; and
6. Other matters as prescribed by the Ordinance of the Ministry of Land, Transport and
Maritime Affairs.
(3) A rental business operator and a lessee shall abide by the rental contract concluded
by using the standard lease agreement as referred to in section (1).

You will notice that nowhere in those 29 pages does it restrict a landlord, or school from limiting the amount of people living in an apartment.
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crescent



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
archaeologist5 wrote:
crescent wrote:
I'll rephrase:
It's no one's business who you have living with you in the apartment.


It is the school's business as they did not grant the westerner permission to move anyone in who was not listed in the contract or the tenant lease. You have a lot to learn.

I do, do I? Ok, "Dr." Considering the amount of people in this country that think you are a certifiable nutjob, including apologists and their official voice, The Korea Times, I'd say you sound rather hilarious telling me that.

You just referred to the law which does not restrict tenants, and your'e still trying to tell us it's not allowed because of this person's contract. Yet you have no idea what is written in it.

Your use of the term 'westerner' instead of 'tenant' tips your biased hand. Unless there is a specific clause in this person's contract that dictates who can live in the apartment, then the issue of houseguests is not one you can lay your skewed brand of judgement on.

Once again, do you know what is written in this person's contract, or not? If not, kindly go back to ranting about the western gay devils on your blog, away from the rest of humanity.