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Korean racism rears ugly head again
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cmxc



Joined: 19 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:38 am    Post subject: Korean racism rears ugly head again Reply with quote

While Koreans want the world to be aware of and sensitive to their culture, they often show a stunning lack of sensitivity and awareness toward other cultures. Black-face performances on Korea’s public broadcasting company (KBS) demonstrate that Korea still has a long way to go.

Will they ever get it?
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/culture/2014/02/201_150883.html

This comes on the heels of the public uproar over the racists cigarette advertisements using Monkeys back in October of 2013

Korean cigarette firm pulls 'racist' monkey ads
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24638074
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It’s entirely inappropriate for 21st century television to feature people wearing blackface makeup, but KBS ― Korea’s state-run broadcaster ― must have missed the memo, or indeed the twentieth century.


Don't agree. It all depends on how it's done. This clip from the Uk series come fly with me (2010) didn't get any complaints. Probably because the comedy came from the woman's personality not the fact she was black. I assume the gag concert sketch did the opposite and hence was offensive to some people. As with all comedy IMO, there should be no hard and fast rules (like the one above) about what's acceptable and what's not

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pScfIV3RyKs
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guavashake



Joined: 09 Nov 2013

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HeEFxgktVg

Look out there's a monster coming...
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optik404



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're in blackface while cracking jokes about everything but black people, is it still racist?
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metalhead



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would a white person get upset over non-white people wearing blackface? That's racist!
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r2b2ct



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It always depends on how it's done. I don't think most people have a problem if the makeup actually tries to look realistic, and the comedy is not just laughing at the blackface. But when you literally just paint your face black and put on a crappy wig, it pretty insulting.
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rainman3277



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but what does Snoop Dogg think?
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Jonephant



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E-7A5DiquI
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byrddogs



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Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

optik404 wrote:
If you're in blackface while cracking jokes about everything but black people, is it still racist?


Racist? I don't know.

Stupid? Yes.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, they'll never get it because:

those who do the blackface, by and large, love the black culture and want to emulate it

but

blacks have longer memories about the blackface, Jim Crow laws and TOBA etc can't see that and won't see blackface as adulation

therefore

blacks have to do blackface, like Louis Armstrong did in Mardi Gras '45 and tell the world: "Hey, this stuff is childish." Cool
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Blackface more of an American issue? I'm not sure it's a globally understood thing.
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Fox



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Blackface more of an American issue?


Yes, but Americans expect their issues to become global issues. It's the same reason it's "unacceptable" for Koreans to sell 흑형치킨: Americans have joked about that topic, and those jokes hurt African Americans' feelings, so now the entire world needs to be sensitive about it or be lectured.
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aq8knyus



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Blackface more of an American issue? I'm not sure it's a globally understood thing.


There is a place in the UK where they do blackface as part of a festival celebrating the defeat of African slavers that had raided their town.

In the Netherlands they have Zwarte Piet.

That aside though I think most western countries know it is offensive.
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aq8knyus



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Blackface more of an American issue?


Yes, but Americans expect their issues to become global issues. It's the same reason it's "unacceptable" for Koreans to sell 흑형치킨: Americans have joked about that topic, and those jokes hurt African Americans' feelings, so now the entire world needs to be sensitive about it or be lectured.


Koreans are incredibly sensitive to instances of their being the victims of racism (quite rightly), so they have no leg to stand on when they refuse to recognise the hurt that is caused by blackface.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They should re-release Soul Man in Korea. I think it would be a hit.
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