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Smithington
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| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| They'll be ready. Koreans are really good at building stuff quickly. |
Yeah. Stuff that falls down, catches fire, is devoid of sound proofing, weather proofing and all the other things associated with "building stuff quickly." If the Grand Prix last year is any indication the foreign press aren't going to be particularly thrilled with their accommodation at all. |
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optik404
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Smithington wrote: |
| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| They'll be ready. Koreans are really good at building stuff quickly. |
Yeah. Stuff that falls down, catches fire, is devoid of sound proofing, weather proofing and all the other things associated with "building stuff quickly." If the Grand Prix last year is any indication the foreign press aren't going to be particularly thrilled with their accommodation at all. |
Are buildings in Korea collapsing all the time? |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| radcon wrote: |
| Psy and Kangnam Style will be involved somehow. |
Why not? He's officially a National Art Treasure Class 4.  |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| matthews_world wrote: |
Mapo-gu ice rink to hold the ice skating. Any work being one on this?
Kim Yuna another 4 years? |
1. Let's hope so, its kind of a shit hole now
2. She said she was going to retire after this Olympics |
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cabeza
Joined: 29 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| optik404 wrote: |
| Smithington wrote: |
| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| They'll be ready. Koreans are really good at building stuff quickly. |
Yeah. Stuff that falls down, catches fire, is devoid of sound proofing, weather proofing and all the other things associated with "building stuff quickly." If the Grand Prix last year is any indication the foreign press aren't going to be particularly thrilled with their accommodation at all. |
Are buildings in Korea collapsing all the time? |
Yes optik404.
I did a little research. Please read this a then you will (finally) understand what we are all talking about.
Here are some stats
Scary reading for anyone winter olympian. And scary reading for us all in Korea   |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yeah, totally forgot about the universal disappointment formally called the Korean Grand Pirx was.
I expect most reviews to be somewhat similar to:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorsport/9609436/F1-diary-Korean-Grand-Prix.html
Anyways, I am by no means saying that Korea is a terrible place to tour around. HOWEVER, you need Korean language skills (at least some), friends in the country, and a knowledge of their craptastic internet usage to survive. People visiting only once, for the Olympics, will come without all three. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| tanklor1 wrote: |
| Canada wins gold in hockey. |
NHL players might not be participating this time though. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:22 am Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
| tanklor1 wrote: |
| Canada wins gold in hockey. |
NHL players might not be participating this time though. |
To be determined. If the IIHF just would give the NHL airing rights to any footage involving hockey. The NHL can't even show Crosby's 2010 Olympic goal with the agreement they had in 2010, ridiculous.... |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:24 am Post subject: |
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| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| They'll be ready. Koreans are really good at building stuff quickly. |
Yeah...and then buildings collapse!
(Even though I have been here for decades...I am not a fan of the korean way of doing things...just never grew on me...but I don't think the koreans are going to screw up the Olympics...too much of an embarrassment. They seem to think they have something to prove and will pull it off just fine.
The country has come a long ways in a short amount of time...and this will give them another chance to shine. The 88 summer Olympics went off fine.
And the koreans will win a bucket load of medals as well. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:25 am Post subject: |
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| Anyways, Korea does have a good record with big events like the '88 Olympics and WC'02 (and the KTX wasn't even running then). So I don't see any major problems with 2018. |
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Squire
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Location: Jeollanam-do
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I've always been curious how tourists get around Korea. I don't think I left my city on my own in my first semester here, and by the time I did I had the basic language skills to get where I wanted to be and back.
Then again transport could be okay. If everyone is taking the same trains from Seoul or the airport to Pyeongchang I expect they'll have that route sorted out. The Seoul subway isn't bad for an English speaker (though I've used easier ones). When Yeosu hosted the Expo they got around one of the bus issues (money) by making all local buses free for the duration of the event. That said, I'm still curious how people knew where their buses were going and where to get off
You'd think Korean assumptions about foreigners' lack of ability to do anything would mean they create systems that 5 years old could use |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| Squire wrote: |
I've always been curious how tourists get around Korea. I don't think I left my city on my own in my first semester here, and by the time I did I had the basic language skills to get where I wanted to be and back.
Then again transport could be okay. If everyone is taking the same trains from Seoul or the airport to Pyeongchang I expect they'll have that route sorted out. The Seoul subway isn't bad for an English speaker (though I've used easier ones). When Yeosu hosted the Expo they got around one of the bus issues (money) by making all local buses free for the duration of the event. That said, I'm still curious how people knew where their buses were going and where to get off
You'd think Korean assumptions about foreigners' lack of ability to do anything would mean they create systems that 5 years old could use |
During the world cup they had free shuttle buses at stations, and terminals, to get you to the stadiums and volunteers that were able to speak the languages of the 2 countries playing were milling about. My Brazilian friend was particularly impressed with one guy's Portuguese. |
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rainman3277
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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Oh yeah, totally forgot about the universal disappointment formally called the Korean Grand Pirx was.
I expect most reviews to be somewhat similar to:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motorsport/9609436/F1-diary-Korean-Grand-Prix.html
Anyways, I am by no means saying that Korea is a terrible place to tour around. HOWEVER, you need Korean language skills (at least some), friends in the country, and a knowledge of their craptastic internet usage to survive. People visiting only once, for the Olympics, will come without all three. |
GrandPrix is not really very popular in Korea and I'm sure that reflected in any shortcomings in preperation, but the olympics is a world stage and I'm sure Korea is very aware of it.
I don't remember there being much of a backlash about the transportation during the World Cup and transportation in Korea has improved a lot since then with KTX lines, bus lanes and no shortage of taxis.
And I'd expect there will be no shortage of English speaking Koreans volunteering so I don't think language barrier will be an issue. I expect Korea will do an excellent job hosting. The big question really, is whether the weather will cooperate. |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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I think structurally the olympics will be fine (with perhaps the exception of shady 'love motel' accommodation). It's Korea's cultural elements that are going to make the news. Remember in 1988 how the Korean boxing coach jumped into the ring and assaulted the referee? Then the security guards climbed intro the ring, not to break things up, but to join in the attack. Great stuff. It'll be Korea's cultural uniqueness (ahem) that will make the games interesting.
Fun times await us. 
Gusts of Popular Feeling has done an excellent look back at the 1988 Seoul Olympics. Well worth a read.
http://populargusts.blogspot.kr/search/label/Sports |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| catman wrote: |
| tanklor1 wrote: |
| Canada wins gold in hockey. |
NHL players might not be participating this time though. |
To be determined. If the IIHF just would give the NHL airing rights to any footage involving hockey. The NHL can't even show Crosby's 2010 Olympic goal with the agreement they had in 2010, ridiculous.... |
I would be very surprised if they go. Most owners are now against it. |
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