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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:48 pm    Post subject: Gold coins in Korea? Reply with quote

I asked about buying gold coins here before. I was told I can go to the bank. But, can you choose the coins they have or are they just some local Korean type? I'm looking for Canadian Maple Leaf as I am reading they are the best and the easiet to sell if need be. WOuld they have those kind here?

Also, Silver is a good buy, but I know less about it. I also assume Canadian Maple Leaf?

http://cornerstonebullion.com/silver


http://cornerstonebullion.com/mapleleaf/
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm almost certain you can't buy gold coins in banks in Korea (and certainly not at the average branch).

One of the few places you can buy gold coins in banks is Hong Kong, at selected BOC and Hang Seng branches. Usually, you can buy whatever stock they have on hand, the variety is often limited and the condition ranges from BU to somewhat less than that (especially with maples).

As for buying gold coins, any of the big 4 (AGEs, Krugs, Phils, Maples) are a good buy, Pandas are good too, but usually you'll be paying an extra premium.

As for silver, maples are among the best. Milk spotting makes them less attractive for some, but as a pure bullion buy, they offer one of the lowest premiums over spot and are the 2nd most popular coin (in terms of mintages).

Back to buying coins in Korea. The short answer is don't.

The long answer, selection is extremely limited, there are only a handful of bullion dealers and they charge pretty high premiums. Additionally, Tax (10%) is charged on all bullion purchases, meaning you'll be paying significantly more.

Silver is even worse, as the premiums are very high. Dealers in Korea charge anywhere between $35-40 dollars for a coin which sells for under $25 elsewhere (with spot at around $21-22).

If you decide to buy bars (gold or silver), you'll do a bit better as the premiums are comparable to other locations, however, you're still stuck with the 10% tax, so you'll pay on average 10% more in Korea than elsewhere.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess I should have known better than to expect Korea to make sense. There's logic and then logic's opposite. Welcome to the morning calm. Given global government's appetites for printing money and future inflation spikes, you'd think more Koreans would want to buy gold. Stupid that it would be so discouraged here.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weigookin74 wrote:
Guess I should have known better than to expect Korea to make sense. There's logic and then logic's opposite. Welcome to the morning calm. Given global government's appetites for printing money and future inflation spikes, you'd think more Koreans would want to buy gold. Stupid that it would be so discouraged here.


http://www.scotiamocatta.com/products/faq.htm

In certain provinces in Canada and certain states in the USA, gold and silver are subject to the provincial/state sales tax. In addition the premiums are not that low either. Then there are other costs like bar charges.


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Gold and silver bullion coins provide a hedge against inflation, but there are a few drawbacks, cautions Chapman. For starters, bullion coins such as the Canadian Gold Maple Leaf or the American Silver Eagle often carry premiums of as much as 16% over the value of their gold to cover the cost of minting and distribution. So those coins will have a lot of ground to make up before they can be sold for a gain. Then there's the added cost and inconvenience of storage and insurance. Lastly, unlike stocks or ETFs, precious metals can't be traded instantly at the click of a mouse. "If you want to buy and sell these types of coins," Chapman says, "you have to go and find a buyer yourself."



http://helpdesk.blogs.money.cnn.com/2012/12/24/taxes-gold-silver-coins/


And Koreans do want to buy gold...they just don't want to pay the taxes on it..


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-03/korea-exchange-targets-gold-trading-as-park-hunts-tax-revenue.html

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South Koreans hold seven times as much gold as the 104.4 metric tons in their central bank’s vaults and the majority of trading is on the black market to evade import duty and value-added tax, according to government estimates.


(bolding mine)
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, arguements aside, where do you buy silver and gold coins here? Banks, gold shops, etc?

Any specific companies?
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EZE



Joined: 05 May 2012

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
In certain provinces in Canada and certain states in the USA, gold and silver are subject to the provincial/state sales tax. In addition the premiums are not that low either. Then there are other costs like bar charges.


You can buy it cheaply, if you look around.

The melt price of 100 oz of silver is $1992 right now, but Provident Metals has 100 oz bars available for as low as $2032 plus $12 shipping. That's not bad. They're based in Dallas, so if you have it shipped to any of the other 49 states, there's no tax.

http://www.providentmetals.com/bullion/silver/private-slv/100-ozt-bar.html

APMEX is probably the biggest bullion seller in the USA, and they have 1 oz gold bars for as low as $1318 when melt is $1296.

The best place to buy is on ebay when it does quadruple ebay bucks or 10% off any purchase over $150. When they run one of those, you can find it under spot. The best I've done yet was 13% below spot on a coin. Usually, it's more like 1-5% under, which is still sweet and exciting when it happens.
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NohopeSeriously



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worst Korea is all about buying stocks. You're not suppose to think otherwise.
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm reading the best thing is to try to get 1/10 ounce gold coins. Canadian Maples are amongst the purest and to try to get American Eagle silver coins. I'm mostly interested in if currencies collapse and having something to buy food with and make it somewhere. (Not a paranoid end of the world feeling, butwant to be prepared.) The way the US Federal reserve is printing money and the congress is running hige deficits, the paper money is becoming worthless. China and other countries are buying up huge sums of gold.
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EZE



Joined: 05 May 2012

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you wanting to hold them in Korea, or are you wanting to hold them in your homeland? Asians tend to prefer pure gold. If you're going to hold them here, Maple Leaves or Australian pieces would be preferable to Eagles or K-rands.

Fractional coins carry a much bigger premium. You'll get more gold for your money buying full ounces, but in a currency collapse, perhaps few people could scrape up enough money to buy a full ounce when you want to sell. I think it's good to have both. There are those Valcambi Combibars that have 50 one gram pieces that can break off from the bar, but the premium on those are too high in my opinion.
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mike in brasil



Joined: 09 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a crisis/panic, cash is king. Most people haven't the foggiest idea how much gold is worth or what it should like anyways....

Buy precious metals for diversification and for the inevitable erosion of all paper currencies.

Palladium has been the strongest since the last correction in the precious metals and also in a supply shortage. Platinum seems to the be the most undervalued.

My advice is to buy them from/in the country where you think you'll end up selling them because dealers/buyers like to buy what they are most familiar with.

I've always used kitco.com and never had a problem.

If you want to buy the 1.2oz butter pats in Seoul, then go to Jogno and in Busan, then go to Beomil-dong.

I think Shinhan banks sell standard bars...... but who knows if it's worth the extra premium and VAT (dunno if they charge VAT)
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HELICIS



Joined: 15 Sep 2011
Location: USA

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a gold district in Seoul, I've bought a lot of silver, gold and palladium there. Jongno-3 Ga.
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