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Jongno2bucheon
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| Died By Bear wrote: |
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So the guy is on meds that other mass shooters took, and then he was told he cant take a leave for family problems, mother and grandfather died. So he went crazy pissed off
Who was the person who made the decision about denying his leave?
Why doesnt the media interview him?
Is journalism that messed up nowadays?
Isnt the inside scoop very obvious? |
His mother died last November.
More recently, he believed he was robbed. He posted this on FB
"I have just lost my inner peace, full of hatred, I think this time the devil will take me," Spc. Ivan Lopez posted on his Facebook page.
"I was robbed last night and I am sure it was 2 “flacos” (guys). Green light and finger ready. As easy as that."
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2014/04/03/fort-hood-shooter-ivan-lopez-facebook-status-devil-will-take-megreen-light-and/ |
Yeah after that funeral leave, supposedly he was denied a family leave right before the shooting.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-26899709
The guys he killed were all late 30s and seargeant level. Maybe they were he omes who denied his leave and later argued with him?
I hate how most of these investigations never go to the core of what happened. Its like an entire page of news usually with one meaningful sentence. Why was he denied? What is the typical army policy? Etc... Etc... Ahhh |
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Jongno2bucheon
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| guavashake wrote: |
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So the guy is on meds that other mass shooters took, and then he was told he cant take a leave for family problems, mother and grandfather died. So he went crazy pissed off
Who was the person who made the decision about denying his leave?
Why doesnt the media interview him?
Is journalism that messed up nowadays?
Isnt the inside scoop very obvious? |
Not only is mainstream journalism messed up, the military system, the medical system, and the government are messed up.
Let's look at it this way...
A person goes to a recruiter and is screened for enlistment.
One of the screening factors is psychiatric disorder.
Prior psychiatric treatment or disorder is cause for disqualification for enlistment.
In other words, psychos are not eligible to enlist in the military.
On the other hand, current military people are classified as psychos and continue to stay in the military.
After being trained to kill.
That's messed up. |
Yeah, im not sure what its like inside the military, but i do agree the medical system is messed up ( too much pharmaceuticals prescribed via doctor commissions). |
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guavashake
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Died By Bear

Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| Obama will be here for the ceremonial services tomorrow. Added security for the president made traffic horrible. Took me 3 hours to go 3 miles this morning. I heard people bitching on their phones all around me sitting in traffic, one guy said he hoped Obama would die from a painful heart attack or a lightning strike. People hate to sit in traffic. |
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guavashake
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young_clinton
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry Guava, your use of sources to justify your claims is incredulous. |
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On the other hand
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tatertot

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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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It almost seems like people that commit mass school shootings might have some sort of pre-existing psychiatric problem, for which they were prescribed medication. No ... it's way more likely that the (completely unrelated) medication they were taking caused them to go on murderous rampages. Thanks for clearing that up for me. |
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Died By Bear

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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:22 am Post subject: |
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To my friends, fellow Texans, brothers in arms, members of the committee, and everyone within the sound of my voice, greetings.
My name is First Lieutenant Patrick Cook of the 49th Transportation Battalion, Fort Hood, Texas, and this past Wednesday I found myself trapped in an enclosed room with fourteen of my fellow Soldiers, one of whom was barricading the door against a madman with a .45 pistol when he was fatally shot. Through what I can only describe as a miracle, he somehow found enough strength to continue pushing against that door until the shooter gave up and went elsewhere, at which time he collapsed. Nearly a week later, I can still taste his blood in my mouth from when I and my comrades breathed into his lungs for 20 long minutes while we waited for a response from the authorities. This Soldier’s name was Sergeant First Class Daniel Ferguson, and his sacrifice loaned me the rest of my life to tell this story.
But I write to you today not to memorialize this brave Soldier, nor to tell a war story about how we made the best of a losing situation, but to express the part of that story that some in high positions of power clearly do not want told: I knew this was going to happen. I had been saying for five years that Fort Hood was a tinderbox of another massacre waiting to happen. It had to happen, because our betters failed to learn the obvious lesson of five years ago. Worse yet, I know it will happen again. More will die, more will be wounded, more families will be torn apart, needlessly. It happened again, and will happen again, because Fort Hood is a gun free zone.
When the first shots rang out, my hand reached to my belt for something that wasn’t there. Something that could have put a stop to the bloodshed, could have made it merely an “ugly incident” instead of the horrific massacre that I will surely remember as the darkest twenty minutes of my life. Stripped of my God-given Right to arm myself, the only defensive posture I had left was to lie prostrate on the ground, and wait to die. As the shooter kicked at the door, I remember telling myself, “oh well, this is it.” It is beneath human dignity to experience the utter helplessness I felt that day. I cannot abide the thought that anyone should ever feel that again.
At the point blank range at which this shooting occurred, anyone with an M9 and some basic instruction could have ended the mayhem as quickly as it began. An MP by trade and a CHL holder, I am convinced that concealed weapons would have stopped it, but openly carried side-arms, like the ones carried in a law enforcement capacity, could have prevented it entirely. Instead, many more died because of the fatally misguided restrictions on the carrying of arms, which obviously the madman did not respect.
I shall conclude by restating my warning. This will happen again, and again until we learn the lesson that suppressing the bearing of arms doesn’t prevent horrific crimes, it invites them. To those of you who hold elected office, if you hear nothing else I have told you, hear this: you have the power to stop the next massacre from happening. You have an opportunity to restore the sacred Right to bear arms, which has been either stripped entirely or unjustly relegated to the poor substitute of a probationary, government-issued privilege. For God’s sake, do the right thing.
Thank you for your attention, and good day.
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guavashake
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| tatertot wrote: |
It almost seems like people that commit mass school shootings might have some sort of pre-existing psychiatric problem, for which they were prescribed medication. No ... it's way more likely that the (completely unrelated) medication they were taking caused them to go on murderous rampages. Thanks for clearing that up for me. |
Thank you for the feedback. Here is more information on the topic.
Soldier suicide: Number of veterans taking own lives more than triples Afghanistan combat toll
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-22/number-of-soldiers-committing-suicide-triples-afghan-combat-toll/5403122
The number of serving and former soldiers who have committed suicide is now more than triple Australia's combat toll in Afghanistan. |
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