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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. BlackCat wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
According to a segment of the Dave's basher crowd, AES and Korea Sentry are hate sites filled with intolerance (which they are) but this Klown blog is an entertaining and well thought out take in Korean culture. Rolling Eyes

If you swapped the word klown with 'black' or 'English Teacher', people would be apoplectic and denounce it as racist. Methinks some on this board are not as enlightened or as immune to the very same racist impulses they denounce in ajosshis as they would like to believe.

For the record, the mainstream apologists have all denounced AES and Korea Sentry. Many bashers have not. No, the two sides are not mirrors of each other.


According to SR:
-Anyone who thinks AES and the like are racist are 'bashers'.
-Anyone who thinks AES and the like are racist also automatically believe this blog is awesome.
S
Once again SR melds all the people he's ever disagreed with into one fictitious person to 'argue' against. What proof does he have that people who denounce AES are the same that love this site? None, but lack of evidence or logic has never stopped him before. Just look at the 10 pages of his defence of the Sewol captain.

It's funny that SR says everyone who has ever said AES is filled with intolerance is a hater and loves this blog, and then says he agrees that AES is full of intolerance. So, is SR a basher and also loves this other blog? Because that's the only logical conclusion. I'm just following his own words.

This is how circular, illogical and down right stupid SR posts are. With in two sentences he outs himself as the exact thing he's heatedly arguing against.


This is how bad your reading comprehension and accuracy is: "A segment of the Dave's basher population..." was what I said. This was done to because not all have this view.

May I ask BlackCat, whyare you so bad at reading comprehension and whyare you so oblivious to small details that carry great significance? I thought you were a smart enough guy to read things and grasp nuances and conditions in writing. I guess not...

There is one BIG mistake I made. I said "Many apologists gave denounced AES and Korea Sentry. Many bashers have not." I failed to finish the sentence- Many bashers have not denounced Klownisms.

If your view on my point wasstrongly influenced by that sentence, which it does not appear to be, then I am sorry.


Anyway, STOP saying I defended the captain. Do you think its good that Germany has the autobahn? Then you are defending Hitler. Do you think people who drive Volkswagens are defending Hitler? Thats the argument youare making. Its absurd to use it on you as it is on me.

I want to think you znart enough not to be so simpleminded in reading and debating.
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atwood



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Mr. BlackCat wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
According to a segment of the Dave's basher crowd, AES and Korea Sentry are hate sites filled with intolerance (which they are) but this Klown blog is an entertaining and well thought out take in Korean culture. Rolling Eyes

If you swapped the word klown with 'black' or 'English Teacher', people would be apoplectic and denounce it as racist. Methinks some on this board are not as enlightened or as immune to the very same racist impulses they denounce in ajosshis as they would like to believe.

For the record, the mainstream apologists have all denounced AES and Korea Sentry. Many bashers have not. No, the two sides are not mirrors of each other.


According to SR:
-Anyone who thinks AES and the like are racist are 'bashers'.
-Anyone who thinks AES and the like are racist also automatically believe this blog is awesome.
S
Once again SR melds all the people he's ever disagreed with into one fictitious person to 'argue' against. What proof does he have that people who denounce AES are the same that love this site? None, but lack of evidence or logic has never stopped him before. Just look at the 10 pages of his defence of the Sewol captain.

It's funny that SR says everyone who has ever said AES is filled with intolerance is a hater and loves this blog, and then says he agrees that AES is full of intolerance. So, is SR a basher and also loves this other blog? Because that's the only logical conclusion. I'm just following his own words.

This is how circular, illogical and down right stupid SR posts are. With in two sentences he outs himself as the exact thing he's heatedly arguing against.


This is how bad your reading comprehension and accuracy is: "A segment of the Dave's basher population..." was what I said. This was done to because not all have this view.

May I ask BlackCat, whyare you so bad at reading comprehension and whyare you so oblivious to small details that carry great significance? I thought you were a smart enough guy to read things and grasp nuances and conditions in writing. I guess not...

There is one BIG mistake I made. I said "Many apologists gave denounced AES and Korea Sentry. Many bashers have not." I failed to finish the sentence- Many bashers have not denounced Klownisms.

If your view on my point wasstrongly influenced by that sentence, which it does not appear to be, then I am sorry.


Anyway, STOP saying I defended the captain. Do you think its good that Germany has the autobahn? Then you are defending Hitler. Do you think people who drive Volkswagens are defending Hitler? Thats the argument youare making. Its absurd to use it on you as it is on me.

I want to think you znart enough not to be so simpleminded in reading and debating.

There is no connection whatsoever in your defense of the Sewol captain and the analogies you make. NONE.

And you did defend the captain. The more you deny the worse it gets.

But how about this for an analogy--your defense of the cap't and subsequent denial and those who collaborated with the Japanese on the peninsula and their subsequent denials? Now that's a shoe that fits.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
Mr. BlackCat wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
According to a segment of the Dave's basher crowd, AES and Korea Sentry are hate sites filled with intolerance (which they are) but this Klown blog is an entertaining and well thought out take in Korean culture. Rolling Eyes

If you swapped the word klown with 'black' or 'English Teacher', people would be apoplectic and denounce it as racist. Methinks some on this board are not as enlightened or as immune to the very same racist impulses they denounce in ajosshis as they would like to believe.

For the record, the mainstream apologists have all denounced AES and Korea Sentry. Many bashers have not. No, the two sides are not mirrors of each other.


According to SR:
-Anyone who thinks AES and the like are racist are 'bashers'.
-Anyone who thinks AES and the like are racist also automatically believe this blog is awesome.
S
Once again SR melds all the people he's ever disagreed with into one fictitious person to 'argue' against. What proof does he have that people who denounce AES are the same that love this site? None, but lack of evidence or logic has never stopped him before. Just look at the 10 pages of his defence of the Sewol captain.

It's funny that SR says everyone who has ever said AES is filled with intolerance is a hater and loves this blog, and then says he agrees that AES is full of intolerance. So, is SR a basher and also loves this other blog? Because that's the only logical conclusion. I'm just following his own words.

This is how circular, illogical and down right stupid SR posts are. With in two sentences he outs himself as the exact thing he's heatedly arguing against.


This is how bad your reading comprehension and accuracy is: "A segment of the Dave's basher population..." was what I said. This was done to because not all have this view.

May I ask BlackCat, whyare you so bad at reading comprehension and whyare you so oblivious to small details that carry great significance? I thought you were a smart enough guy to read things and grasp nuances and conditions in writing. I guess not...

There is one BIG mistake I made. I said "Many apologists gave denounced AES and Korea Sentry. Many bashers have not." I failed to finish the sentence- Many bashers have not denounced Klownisms.

If your view on my point wasstrongly influenced by that sentence, which it does not appear to be, then I am sorry.


Anyway, STOP saying I defended the captain. Do you think its good that Germany has the autobahn? Then you are defending Hitler. Do you think people who drive Volkswagens are defending Hitler? Thats the argument youare making. Its absurd to use it on you as it is on me.

I want to think you znart enough not to be so simpleminded in reading and debating.

There is no connection whatsoever in your defense of the Sewol captain and the analogies you make. NONE.

And you did defend the captain. The more you deny the worse it gets.

But how about this for an analogy--your defense of the cap't and subsequent denial and those who collaborated with the Japanese on the peninsula and their subsequent denials? Now that's a shoe that fits.


Find the quote where I defended the captain.

Oh and be sure to post the quotes where I wished he could be executed for abandoning ship and where I declared his abandoning ship to be premeditated and worthy of a stiffer sentence.

The fact is, you are too stupid to grasp nuance and distinction and the concept of evaluating individual decisions without judging someone as a whole. Again, sorry you are too stupid to understand that middle-school level concept.
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atwood



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
atwood wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
Mr. BlackCat wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
According to a segment of the Dave's basher crowd, AES and Korea Sentry are hate sites filled with intolerance (which they are) but this Klown blog is an entertaining and well thought out take in Korean culture. Rolling Eyes

If you swapped the word klown with 'black' or 'English Teacher', people would be apoplectic and denounce it as racist. Methinks some on this board are not as enlightened or as immune to the very same racist impulses they denounce in ajosshis as they would like to believe.

For the record, the mainstream apologists have all denounced AES and Korea Sentry. Many bashers have not. No, the two sides are not mirrors of each other.


According to SR:
-Anyone who thinks AES and the like are racist are 'bashers'.
-Anyone who thinks AES and the like are racist also automatically believe this blog is awesome.
S
Once again SR melds all the people he's ever disagreed with into one fictitious person to 'argue' against. What proof does he have that people who denounce AES are the same that love this site? None, but lack of evidence or logic has never stopped him before. Just look at the 10 pages of his defence of the Sewol captain.

It's funny that SR says everyone who has ever said AES is filled with intolerance is a hater and loves this blog, and then says he agrees that AES is full of intolerance. So, is SR a basher and also loves this other blog? Because that's the only logical conclusion. I'm just following his own words.

This is how circular, illogical and down right stupid SR posts are. With in two sentences he outs himself as the exact thing he's heatedly arguing against.


This is how bad your reading comprehension and accuracy is: "A segment of the Dave's basher population..." was what I said. This was done to because not all have this view.

May I ask BlackCat, whyare you so bad at reading comprehension and whyare you so oblivious to small details that carry great significance? I thought you were a smart enough guy to read things and grasp nuances and conditions in writing. I guess not...

There is one BIG mistake I made. I said "Many apologists gave denounced AES and Korea Sentry. Many bashers have not." I failed to finish the sentence- Many bashers have not denounced Klownisms.

If your view on my point wasstrongly influenced by that sentence, which it does not appear to be, then I am sorry.


Anyway, STOP saying I defended the captain. Do you think its good that Germany has the autobahn? Then you are defending Hitler. Do you think people who drive Volkswagens are defending Hitler? Thats the argument youare making. Its absurd to use it on you as it is on me.

I want to think you znart enough not to be so simpleminded in reading and debating.

There is no connection whatsoever in your defense of the Sewol captain and the analogies you make. NONE.

And you did defend the captain. The more you deny the worse it gets.

But how about this for an analogy--your defense of the cap't and subsequent denial and those who collaborated with the Japanese on the peninsula and their subsequent denials? Now that's a shoe that fits.


Find the quote where I defended the captain.

Oh and be sure to post the quotes where I wished he could be executed for abandoning ship and where I declared his abandoning ship to be premeditated and worthy of a stiffer sentence.

The fact is, you are too stupid to grasp nuance and distinction and the concept of evaluating individual decisions without judging someone as a whole. Again, sorry you are too stupid to understand that middle-school level concept.

You can continue to deny it, but who can forget your shouting again and again about the four minutes, the four minutes, and your scientific timeline, put together with help from NASA no doubt, all showing the captain was innocent, that there wasn't enough time to act, that no one knew the ship could possibly sink so fast and other defenses of the captain and crew.

Realizing that the Minnow was lost, you then backtracked and said IF, IF, IF, the captain was somehow proven guilty then you could see him getting the death penalty (highly unlikely in Korea, but no matter).

Little buddy, it's OK to be wrong, as long as you're man enough to own up to it.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:

You can continue to deny it, but who can forget your shouting again and again about the four minutes, the four minutes, and your scientific timeline, put together with help from NASA no doubt, all showing the captain was innocent, that there wasn't enough time to act, that no one knew the ship could possibly sink so fast and other defenses of the captain and crew.

Realizing that the Minnow was lost, you then backtracked and said IF, IF, IF, the captain was somehow proven guilty then you could see him getting the death penalty (highly unlikely in Korea, but no matter).


I called for wanting the death penalty on like the first or second page of the thread, well before "The 4 minutes". And saying that someone shouldn't be blamed FOR PARTS of the disaster is not the same as saying they deserve NO blame. Are you too stupid to grasp that distinction? You must be, because only a stupid person could fail to grasp that.

atwood, I said I would only respond to you if you were going to be reasonable when you posted. After correcting your terribly erroneous assertion, I am done. Either post stuff that has at least a vague basis in fact or piss off.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
atwood wrote:

You can continue to deny it, but who can forget your shouting again and again about the four minutes, the four minutes, and your scientific timeline, put together with help from NASA no doubt, all showing the captain was innocent, that there wasn't enough time to act, that no one knew the ship could possibly sink so fast and other defenses of the captain and crew.

Realizing that the Minnow was lost, you then backtracked and said IF, IF, IF, the captain was somehow proven guilty then you could see him getting the death penalty (highly unlikely in Korea, but no matter).


I called for wanting the death penalty on like the first or second page of the thread, well before "The 4 minutes". And saying that someone shouldn't be blamed FOR PARTS of the disaster is not the same as saying they deserve NO blame. Are you too stupid to grasp that distinction? You must be, because only a stupid person could fail to grasp that.

atwood, I said I would only respond to you if you were going to be reasonable when you posted. After correcting your terribly erroneous assertion, I am done. Either post stuff that has at least a vague basis in fact or piss off.

The facts are in evidence. Your wish to dismiss this is an obvious miscarriage of justice and an attempt to dodge responsibility for your posts.

You, as you admit above, defended the captain. Case closed.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
atwood wrote:

You can continue to deny it, but who can forget your shouting again and again about the four minutes, the four minutes, and your scientific timeline, put together with help from NASA no doubt, all showing the captain was innocent, that there wasn't enough time to act, that no one knew the ship could possibly sink so fast and other defenses of the captain and crew.

Realizing that the Minnow was lost, you then backtracked and said IF, IF, IF, the captain was somehow proven guilty then you could see him getting the death penalty (highly unlikely in Korea, but no matter).


I called for wanting the death penalty on like the first or second page of the thread, well before "The 4 minutes". And saying that someone shouldn't be blamed FOR PARTS of the disaster is not the same as saying they deserve NO blame. Are you too stupid to grasp that distinction? You must be, because only a stupid person could fail to grasp that.

atwood, I said I would only respond to you if you were going to be reasonable when you posted. After correcting your terribly erroneous assertion, I am done. Either post stuff that has at least a vague basis in fact or piss off.

The facts are in evidence. Your wish to dismiss this is an obvious miscarriage of justice and an attempt to dodge responsibility for your posts.

You, as you admit above, defended the captain. Case closed.


You are absolutely shameless to bold that sentence and not the CAPITALIZED part immediately following it.

And if you are saying I "defended" the captain because of one part, isn't it fair to say that I "attacked" the captain in other parts. Namely the parts where I repeatedly said he was guilty of negligence and premeditated cowardice and dereliction of duty in abandoning the ship. Something that if he were under military law could see him shot, and I wish he were.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
atwood wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
atwood wrote:

You can continue to deny it, but who can forget your shouting again and again about the four minutes, the four minutes, and your scientific timeline, put together with help from NASA no doubt, all showing the captain was innocent, that there wasn't enough time to act, that no one knew the ship could possibly sink so fast and other defenses of the captain and crew.

Realizing that the Minnow was lost, you then backtracked and said IF, IF, IF, the captain was somehow proven guilty then you could see him getting the death penalty (highly unlikely in Korea, but no matter).


I called for wanting the death penalty on like the first or second page of the thread, well before "The 4 minutes". And saying that someone shouldn't be blamed FOR PARTS of the disaster is not the same as saying they deserve NO blame. Are you too stupid to grasp that distinction? You must be, because only a stupid person could fail to grasp that.

atwood, I said I would only respond to you if you were going to be reasonable when you posted. After correcting your terribly erroneous assertion, I am done. Either post stuff that has at least a vague basis in fact or piss off.

The facts are in evidence. Your wish to dismiss this is an obvious miscarriage of justice and an attempt to dodge responsibility for your posts.

You, as you admit above, defended the captain. Case closed.


You are absolutely shameless to bold that sentence and not the CAPITALIZED part immediately following it.

And if you are saying I "defended" the captain because of one part, isn't it fair to say that I "attacked" the captain in other parts. Namely the parts where I repeatedly said he was guilty of negligence and premeditated cowardice and dereliction of duty in abandoning the ship. Something that if he were under military law could see him shot, and I wish he were.

And yet you responded.

So after you defended him, you then bandwagoned to the front of the line calling for his head to save face. Anyone can see through such an obvious tactic.

Guilty!
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
atwood wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
atwood wrote:

You can continue to deny it, but who can forget your shouting again and again about the four minutes, the four minutes, and your scientific timeline, put together with help from NASA no doubt, all showing the captain was innocent, that there wasn't enough time to act, that no one knew the ship could possibly sink so fast and other defenses of the captain and crew.

Realizing that the Minnow was lost, you then backtracked and said IF, IF, IF, the captain was somehow proven guilty then you could see him getting the death penalty (highly unlikely in Korea, but no matter).


I called for wanting the death penalty on like the first or second page of the thread, well before "The 4 minutes". And saying that someone shouldn't be blamed FOR PARTS of the disaster is not the same as saying they deserve NO blame. Are you too stupid to grasp that distinction? You must be, because only a stupid person could fail to grasp that.

atwood, I said I would only respond to you if you were going to be reasonable when you posted. After correcting your terribly erroneous assertion, I am done. Either post stuff that has at least a vague basis in fact or piss off.

The facts are in evidence. Your wish to dismiss this is an obvious miscarriage of justice and an attempt to dodge responsibility for your posts.

You, as you admit above, defended the captain. Case closed.


You are absolutely shameless to bold that sentence and not the CAPITALIZED part immediately following it.

And if you are saying I "defended" the captain because of one part, isn't it fair to say that I "attacked" the captain in other parts. Namely the parts where I repeatedly said he was guilty of negligence and premeditated cowardice and dereliction of duty in abandoning the ship. Something that if he were under military law could see him shot, and I wish he were.

And yet you responded.

So after you defended him, you then bandwagoned to the front of the line calling for his head to save face. Anyone can see through such an obvious tactic.

Guilty!


Except if you GO BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE OF THE THREAD. In fact well before the whole "4 minutes thing" there was even an argument over the definition of "military justice" and using capital punishment in this case.

Now stop derailing this and every other thread by bringing up the ferry captain.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
atwood wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
atwood wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
atwood wrote:

You can continue to deny it, but who can forget your shouting again and again about the four minutes, the four minutes, and your scientific timeline, put together with help from NASA no doubt, all showing the captain was innocent, that there wasn't enough time to act, that no one knew the ship could possibly sink so fast and other defenses of the captain and crew.

Realizing that the Minnow was lost, you then backtracked and said IF, IF, IF, the captain was somehow proven guilty then you could see him getting the death penalty (highly unlikely in Korea, but no matter).


I called for wanting the death penalty on like the first or second page of the thread, well before "The 4 minutes". And saying that someone shouldn't be blamed FOR PARTS of the disaster is not the same as saying they deserve NO blame. Are you too stupid to grasp that distinction? You must be, because only a stupid person could fail to grasp that.

atwood, I said I would only respond to you if you were going to be reasonable when you posted. After correcting your terribly erroneous assertion, I am done. Either post stuff that has at least a vague basis in fact or piss off.

The facts are in evidence. Your wish to dismiss this is an obvious miscarriage of justice and an attempt to dodge responsibility for your posts.

You, as you admit above, defended the captain. Case closed.


You are absolutely shameless to bold that sentence and not the CAPITALIZED part immediately following it.

And if you are saying I "defended" the captain because of one part, isn't it fair to say that I "attacked" the captain in other parts. Namely the parts where I repeatedly said he was guilty of negligence and premeditated cowardice and dereliction of duty in abandoning the ship. Something that if he were under military law could see him shot, and I wish he were.

And yet you responded.

So after you defended him, you then bandwagoned to the front of the line calling for his head to save face. Anyone can see through such an obvious tactic.

Guilty!


Except if you GO BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE OF THE THREAD. In fact well before the whole "4 minutes thing" there was even an argument over the definition of "military justice" and using capital punishment in this case.

Now stop derailing this and every other thread by bringing up the ferry captain.

You wrote that you would not respond. And yet again you have responded.

Is your word not your bond?

You're derailing this thread because you won't admit to having defended the captain and the crew. Until then, your defense of the indefensible is going to follow you around like a lost puppy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems that the author(s) is(are) expressing frustration. I suppose there is not another readily accessible source - like posting here Very Happy . Hello to all trolls and trouble makers. A salute to lx35550 and jr521960kr - who are quite possibly the same person - who wished me very painful deaths. The immaturity is great. I needed a laugh. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New blog entry today.

http://klownisms.wordpress.com/

He really manages to peel off the plastic paint that covers so much of this face saving society.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenpie wrote:
New blog entry today.

http://klownisms.wordpress.com/

He really manages to peel off the plastic paint that covers so much of this face saving society.


You can paint a poo gold, its still a poo
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenpie wrote:
New blog entry today.

http://klownisms.wordpress.com/

He really manages to peel off the plastic paint that covers so much of this face saving society.


Is this guy that surprised that some people live in expensive high rise apartments and some people live in crap housing?

I agree about everything else though, the littering has got to go.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:
chickenpie wrote:
New blog entry today.

http://klownisms.wordpress.com/

He really manages to peel off the plastic paint that covers so much of this face saving society.


You can paint a poo gold, its still a poo


Stop making this guy out to be some kind of astute social commentator. He is quite simply a racist little *beep* who has never grown the balls required to live in a place that challenges his way of thinking.
All he does is insult an entire nation of people in the most base and witless manner, which is apparently seen as cutting-edge humour.
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