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Feeling Unattractive When Back in the West
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maitaidads wrote:
Whew! Thanks for the encouraging words (some of you). All the others (yaya for one) can form a human centipede.
Back in Korea finally, and I've already been told by a customs agent, a Caffe Benne employee, and a man on the bus that I'm very attractive.
I don't get why westerners are so uptight, intimidated, and insecure that they can't do the same!!! Twisted Evil


I'd say it's more in the look that you get from an attractive member of the opposite sex. If they're locking eyes on you or getting the mutual attraction stare, I'd say that means a lot more than some ajossi telling you you're "handsome". I'd also say if it happens in different countries, that would mean more than some artificial staring in Asia because of your light skin color, high nose, or double eyelids.
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robbie_davies



Joined: 16 Jun 2013

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last time I was in Korea, most teachers had a face akin to a smashed in pineapple.

These good looking teachers were pretty much absent in my line of sight but lots of teachers I did actually know would talk about how 'cute' 'beautiful' or 'handsome' they were according to the locals, most had the sense to see it for what it was.

I have a face like a robbers dog but hey - I was called handsome too - big deal, if you need a boost in self confidence from Koreans and it is important then you are going to be real upset when they tell you that you are 'fat' 'tired' 'old' they give out the compliments with one hand then they usually taketh away with the other. It is about control via mind games usually when used in a working environment.

And good looks are so subjective, hey, if you go to Germany, Denmark, Greece or Uruguay and all the locals are coming up to you then that would have more gravitas than the Koreans who throw away these lines to everyone all the time.
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wanderkind



Joined: 01 Jan 2012
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It definitely was a wind-up. Was it in response to another thread specifically though?

le-paul wrote:
I can tell the difference between a fake and real compliment about looks here.

1/ when teenage girls giggle and say it in Korean to each other thinking I dont understand.
2/ when handsome follows some sort of sound such as 'ooohh'.
3 / when i get stared at and i smile - they smile back ( i take that as a compliment).
4/ when the compliment is not handsome but something like 'your face is very nice'.

But yes, i punish boys for this - and usually tell them its a bit gay. Girls, i tell them they are very pretty too and then they either realise im just giving an empty compliment or are so caught up in the attention their own ego takes over - either way, they stop.

But as for OP, Id say I get a lot more attention back home.

You could also re word your question and ask 'do western girls pay any attention to you in korea?'. ' or do you usually have to pick up the fuglies?'.

Aw, Le-paul nooo Crying or Very sad
You're joking about the 'tell them it's a bit gay' thing, right?
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave a student a glass of water one time. She replied (in Korean) that it was delicious. That's akin to people being "handsome."
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generally, yes.

If its a class I have a good relationship with, or they're a bit older, I would explain the cultural differences of sexes giving compliments to equal or opposite sex.

But like other posters have said, its a platitude, so I find the return a compliment with a compliment works best.
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
I gave a student a glass of water one time. She replied (in Korean) that it was delicious. That's akin to people being "handsome."


That's because there are only two types of food and beverage in Korea - 'delicious' and 'not delicious'.

Just like there are only three types of people - 'handsome/pretty', 'ugly/fat', and 'dont exist'.
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joelove



Joined: 12 May 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing about being back in Canada. Nobody really points out or even seems to notice 20 pounds overweight on a middle aged man. That just seems about average, not that all the Asian men over 40 are thin either. A lot more are I suppose.
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Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://fantasyfeeder.com/cms/index.php

I joined this club - people transfer money to my account, I buy pizza/chicken/cake and then they watch me eat it on a web cam.

Large and lovin' it.

Anybody care to fatten me?
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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucas wrote:
http://fantasyfeeder.com/cms/index.php

I joined this club - people transfer money to my account, I buy pizza/chicken/cake and then they watch me eat it on a web cam.

Large and lovin' it.

Anybody care to fatten me?


How much to make you drink a bottle of ipecac syrup?
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maitaidads



Joined: 08 Oct 2012

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:


Just like there are only three types of people - 'handsome/pretty', 'ugly/fat', and 'dont exist'.


Not true! Koreans just have better taste, sense of style, and appreciation of beauty.
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Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How much to make you drink a bottle of ipecac syrup?


It depends, do you plan to jack off whilst you watch?

Also, as that stuff should make me throw up, i'll lose weight, not gain it - kinda defeating the object....

So you'd REALLY have to pay me lots.
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drydell



Joined: 01 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a great Expat Hell post on the whole 'you're handsome' thing.. Shame it's still all offline..
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joelove wrote:
One thing about being back in Canada. Nobody really points out or even seems to notice 20 pounds overweight on a middle aged man. That just seems about average, not that all the Asian men over 40 are thin either. A lot more are I suppose.


I gained weight when I first got here, then lost it. I had gained again over the past year and am now going back down. Difference several years ago was the Koreans wouldn't shut up about telling me how fat I was (which I really wasn't considering how many obese guys I knew back home). Nowadays, they don't say a damn word as a lot more Koreans have gotten fatter too.

I suppose it helps that I find better fitting clothes than when I first got here. The clothes, even the western brands, were all made too small and they'd put spandex material in it. Made me look worse at the time then I was. Some really chubby Korean guys look awful when they wear that Korean size large (American size extra small) pink Ralph Lauren Polo shirt that clings to every ounce of fat and hides nothing. (A Korean chick complained to me about one of her friends boyfriends who was quite fat and shaking his rolls through the pink shirt at the noreabang. Ha ha.)

But, I digress. Companies now ship to Korea and I buy normal fitting clothes. No problems. Got stares and smiles last summer from women while visiting Canada and get them here too (small belly aside).
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trueblue wrote:
What does the mirror tell you?


That the enemy has only images and illusions, behind which he hides his true motives.
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